Sam Bennett VS Mitch Marner Head To Head Stats In Playoffs

[3074326]

I'll take Marner. Doing a 1v1 comparison kind of implies Mitch is the problem in Toronto. Does anyone actually feel that way?

Bennett is definitely a playoff guy, no doubt. He's a really good player, love what he brings. And depending on the team, I could see why some would want what Bennett brings instead. But for me? Give me the 100 pt guy who disappoints the world when he scores at a measly .9 ppg rate in the postseason.

EDIT: I want to add AINEC to my post. Read it and kind of felt like it was a toss-up. It wasn't. I both love what Bennett does and think Marner is a different tier of player.

 

[danny90]

Playoff stats head to head:

Bennett 34G, 70 pts in 99 playoff games
Avg 16:54/Game
1,637.46 mins total
Equal to playing 27.29 full hockey games

Marner 13G, 63pts in 70 playoff games
Avg 21:51/Game
1505.7 mins total
Equal to playing 25.95 full hockey games

Bennett has essentially played 6 more games equal to marners almost 22 mins per game in playoffs rather than “29”

Essentially Bennett has a 0.92ppg in playoffs (70 pts in 76 games) and Marner a 0.90ppg (63pts in 70 games)

1 is gonna get 14/15mil, and 1 people laugh about potentially getting 8/9/10mil

You can make some silly contract comparisons using playoff only stats, Marner is 8th in points in the last 3 seasons, scoring almost as many as bennett has in his career.

 

[Stephen]

Marner is the 2nd or 3rd most important player to the leafs whereas Bennett is behind Barkov, Tkachuk, Forsling, Reinhart, Bob and maybe Seth Jones and Verhaeghe (sp). Not a guy I’d bet on in his 30s

I wouldn't go betting on Bennett necessarily with big cap dollars, but he could be one of those Dead Puck Era playoff warriors like Jamie Langenbrunner who just go deep in the playoffs all the time playing their unremarkable regular seasons.

 

[frontsfan67]

You can make some silly contract comparisons using playoff only stats, Marner is 8th in points in the last 3 seasons, scoring almost as many as bennett has in his career.

Did I strike a nerve Danny?

 

[Fatass]

If it’s just the playoffs then of course Bennett is the choice. Got to make the playoffs though. If a club overpays for a guy like Bennett they better have a lot of other good players because he’s not helping them get to the playoffs. Marner, of course, will. He’s a great player.

 

[12ozPapa]

If both players get what they are rumored to be getting, both deals will be overpayments. GMs know that, question is, can you stomach it if it means a Cup?

 

[frontsfan67]

If both players get what they are rumored to be getting, both deals will be overpayments. GMs know that, question is, can you stomach it if it means a Cup?

If the guy helps win a cup or two imo you forget the bad contract. A guy can put up 200pts in the regular season, if he can’t put up decent numbers in the playoffs it all means nothing unless the players own selfish goals are to win scoring titles and not cups.

And if they do that- that is not a guy you spend 14 million on when that contract inevitably shits the bed and 0 cups to show for it.

A guy like Nikolaj Ehlers has even worse stats but his regular season isn’t as great as Marner.

IMO Marner has a couple things going against him in that situation, under a microscope and a pass first guy. any move he makes gets pointed out by “leafs nation” and Marner is a pass first player. Not a guy you tend to build around unless they can do both (Gretzky, McDavid for example)

Marner can forget to turn his signal on to turn right at a red light and leafs fans will document it. Very much under a microscope in Toronto and that is part of the reason (along with taxes) why many don’t want to come

However Marner needs to find a way to tune out the noise because he should be focused on hockey and not the fans.

 

[Haj]

The question that needs to be answered isn't "Who is better Marner or Bennett?"

Its "What mix of players, coach will get the most out of Mitch Marner?"

Sam Bennett wasn't Sam Bennett till he got to Florida, was surrounded with the right players, placed in the right system and coached by the right coach.

 

[Leafshater67]

Marner is the 2nd or 3rd most important player to the leafs whereas Bennett is behind Barkov, Tkachuk, Forsling, Reinhart, Bob and maybe Seth Jones and Verhaeghe (sp). Not a guy I’d bet on in his 30s

I see your point but the leafs desperately need what he brings and he coincidentally is the 2C they lack. He fills a major role and when he’s washed, the team’s window is likely closed anyways.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Sam Bennett pull-ups at the NHL combine: 0
Mitch Marner pull-ups at the NHL combine: 11

 

[ORRFForever]

Bennett is behind Barkov, Tkachuk, Forsling, Reinhart, Bob and maybe Seth Jones and Verhaeghe (sp).

That is a terrible take.

 

[Brookbank]

Bennett has essentially played 6 more games equal to marners almost 22 mins per game in playoffs rather than “29”

Essentially Bennett has a 0.92ppg in playoffs (70 pts in 76 games) and Marner a 0.90ppg (63pts in 70 games)

1 is gonna get 14/15mil, and 1 people laugh about potentially getting 8/9/10mil

One is an 50 point scrub who was on bust watch with Jake Virtanen early in his career.

And the other is an over PPG 100 point player who never missed the playoffs in 9 years.

Bennett isn't worth a dime more than 6.5 million. But he will get 9 or 10 and he will be this generations Scott Gomez.

 

[Brookbank]

But drink the Mitch Marner koolaid who will be paid 6+ mil more for worse stats in playoffs?

There is no Marner koolaid. He's an over PPG career player, whether you like him or not.

 

[Brookbank]

The whole point is who would you rather have for the playoffs. 1 helps the team win and the other isn’t doing his scoring job well.

Then another point that keep in mind Bennett will outperform while making 6M less that whatever team could use to lure another free agent

Just think it’s pretty comical how floridas 5th best forward plays better than the top producing leaf forward (from regular season) in the playoffs and really puts into perspective how bad Marner is in the playoffs.

If you build a team just for the playoffs, (by paying guys like Sam Bennett 8-10 million) you won't make the playoffs

 

[frontsfan67]

If you build a team just for the playoffs, (by paying guys like Sam Bennett 8-10 million) you won't make the playoffs

Is the whole team built with Sam bennetts? Better yet do they even have 1 guy that’s similar? The answer is no.

 

[frontsfan67]

There is no Marner koolaid. He's an over PPG career player, whether you like him or not.

Not in the playoffs which is what the thread is about so let’s not move goalposts

 

[frontsfan67]

One is an 50 point scrub who was on bust watch with Jake Virtanen early in his career.

When he got no playing time you’re right. What does early in career have to do with anything?

And the other is an over PPG 100 point player who never missed the playoffs in 9 years.

Also that 100pt player shits the bed in the playoffs hence why the leafs haven’t made the third round even once

Bennett isn't worth a dime more than 6.5 million. But he will get 9 or 10 and he will be this generations Scott Gomez.

2 time Stanley cup winner. Will be 2 more than Marner or the leafs.

 

[NJ DevLolz]

That is a terrible take.

Very convincing. What’s incorrect about it? He’s also an averaged sized physical forward. He’s going to age terribly

 

[Schennanigans]

Whoever signs Bennett is doing so for the playoffs. He brings that dirty rough play that teams love to have for a playoff run.

Whoever signs Marner is doing so because it makes that team significantly better in the regular season. And he’s also not far from a ppg in the playoffs.

 

[ijuka]

Playoff stats head to head:

Bennett 34G, 70 pts in 99 playoff games
Avg 16:54/Game
1,637.46 mins total
Equal to playing 27.29 full hockey games

Marner 13G, 63pts in 70 playoff games
Avg 21:51/Game
1505.7 mins total
Equal to playing 25.95 full hockey games

If these are head-to-head, how has Bennett played 29 games more? Is Marner a headless horseman?

 

[frontsfan67]

If these are head-to-head, how has Bennett played 29 games more? Is Marner a headless horseman?

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