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Sam Bennett ANNIHILATES Jaccob Slavin With Massive Hit

I didn't edit the one where pikachu has an erection though. but you guys are right, Pikachu is all horned up because of the violent hit that injured a player, not the injury itself ... those are completely different things to cOmPaRtMeNtAliZe :sarcasm:

man I really rustled some jimmies in this thread, chill out fellas. if you don't think you're a performative hypocrite then you're not! go on with your lives and ignore the stranger on the message board :nod:
It's not exactly some crazy hard to accomplish thing if you don't have borderline personality disorder.

Loved the hit, would watch it again right now. Sucks to Slavin hurt and not doing well, don't like that at all. Gonna talk about the hit now because we're still pretty firmly in the now where this is concerned.

If, later, Slavin is struggling to recover I'll express plenty of empathy for that, it would really suck to see. If he comes back fine, well... all is well. Can't do much to predict that, not going to hold a preemptive moment of silence for a guy who could be fine later. If it were a remotely suspendable hit there's a much different tone, obviously, but right here there's not really anything to correct or unpack.

If you like hockey with hitting in it you're just going to see this sometimes, so you can either fly off the handle in either direction or just maintain a healthy middle and exercise this thing called emotional depth
 
Why am I drawing the line between legal and illegal activities? Really? Is there a State approved 100 dollar Hobo Fights organization I'm somehow unaware of? Between back-alley beatings and events with medical personnel present where the referee is often also a trained medic and required to intervene in truly excessive situations?

I'm not asking your opinion on legality. Different types of fighting are legal in some places but not in others.

If there's medical personnel involved to prevent instant death, you think it is ethically acceptable to pay two consenting adults to cause permanent damage to each other's brains? Say, by giving them baseball bats and letting them go at it till one of them stops moving? If not, why not, and why should that same ethical principle not apply to other fighting sports? The underlined is the question I'm really asking here
but as long as you're playing by the rules you're not a piece of shit for knocking someone out, and your fans aren't pieces of shit for enjoying that.

See, I think this is two different questions. Someone taking an irresistible amount of money by wagering his long term health against someone else's is perhaps misguided, but is not (necessarily) engaging in an unethical practice. Irresistible means irresistible, after all.

The people paying him the money to do so are in a different ethical position. They are making a choice to see people deliberately destroy each other for nothing more than an hour's amusement. That certainly does seem to be in ethically depraved territory.

They don't all have zero empathy for the guy on the ground, they aren't morally bankrupt, or tacitly endorsing "bloodsport" (well okay, technically I'd say the UFC may count but back to hockey it's not bloodsport just because somebody got rocked).

Posting "good clean hit" doesn't make you a maniac, nor does marveling at just how completely peppered Slavin was. You don't see it often.

Again I would regard hockey* as a different story. There are definitely shithead players out there who take advantage of opportunities to hurt people, but in general the physicality in hockey is pretty straight-up and there are explicit rules to prevent head injuries. From time to time guys will still get hit in the head with slapshots, but that doesn't make slapshots inherently bad. It's no different than how from time to time a basketball player takes a hard foul and hits his head, or a baseball player collides with the catcher's kneepad while sliding in head-first. It happens occasionally as a natural consequence, but not regularly by deliberate design.


* hockey meaning the game of hockey, within the rules, which this hit was. The commercialized version of hockey where players are instructed to physically destroy each other by playing deliberately outside the rules, that's a different story. This is the whole issue with stage fighting.
 
Again I would regard hockey* as a different story. There are definitely shithead players out there who take advantage of opportunities to hurt people, but in general the physicality in hockey is pretty straight-up and there are explicit rules to prevent head injuries. From time to time guys will still get hit in the head with slapshots, but that doesn't make slapshots inherently bad. It's no different than how from time to time a basketball player takes a hard foul and hits his head, or a baseball player collides with the catcher's kneepad while sliding in head-first. It happens occasionally as a natural consequence, but not regularly by deliberate design.


* hockey meaning the game of hockey, within the rules, which this hit was. The commercialized version of hockey where players are instructed to physically destroy each other by playing deliberately outside the rules, that's a different story. This is the whole issue with stage fighting.
Okay, but so connect the dots with me: if the fans aren't as ethically bankrupt as MMA fans because the name of the game isn't exclusively to wreck somebody, the hit is perfectly legal and had zero shades of playoff tomfoolery, and hitting is an accepted and appreciated part of a physical game, why are the people who are just enjoying how immense the hit was being ridiculed for cheering for injury?

Why does it have to be binary?
 
Okay, but so connect the dots with me: if the fans aren't as ethically bankrupt as MMA fans because the name of the game isn't exclusively to wreck somebody, the hit is perfectly legal and had zero shades of playoff tomfoolery, and hitting is an accepted and appreciated part of a physical game, why are the people who are just enjoying how immense the hit was being ridiculed for cheering for injury?

Why does it have to be binary?

I didn't say they necessarily were. I pointed to two examples (Subban and the guy upthread) who definitely seemed to be, and I think we both agreed that was kind of shitty. I don't think that's representative of hockey fans as a whole.

UFC is a bit different because people are, pretty much explicitly, cheering for injury the entire time.
 
I didn't say they necessarily were. I pointed to two examples (Subban and the guy upthread) who definitely seemed to be, and I think we both agreed that was kind of shitty. I don't think that's representative of hockey fans as a whole.

UFC is a bit different because people are, pretty much explicitly, cheering for injury the entire time.
I don't think we really disagree on a word here, but I'd invite you to re-read from, like, post 100-ish to whenever we engaged because maybe there's a mixed understanding of our angles but if this started before that then I missed the "love knocking people out" guy. My impression of this from the get go has been that anything dangerous or violent needs to be met with sadness and condemnation, even legal but unfortunate outcomes in contact sports. That you can't appreciate any of what happened just because Slavin was injured on the play, and if you do that you're cheering for violent injury and not physical play.

When we engaged you were stepping in to explain the point of somebody who really doubled down on that concept after, and I disagree with that.

And really, fact is if it were less spectacular contact we wouldn't really be talking about anything but Slavin being hurt and hoping he's okay, but you don't often see a human being look spring loaded like that and it's f***ing wild
 
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Can't believe people are fans of hockey but whine whenever the game gets even a little rough. What game have people been watching these last few years?
 
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Can't believe people are fans of hockey but whine whenever the game gets even a little rough. What game have people been watching these last few years?

I don't know if whine is the correct word, but as much as I like seeing a big clean hit, I don't want to see a guy get a concussion as a result of it seeing what we know about them now. I want to see the guy pop back up.
 
The amount of people who work for the Canes getting mad at Subban for praising the hit is hysterical. Between that and Brind'Amour just refusing to accept that he got swept, Hurricanes come away from this series looking sofffffft. And I love Slavin.
 
Did want to risk injury his shoulder doing a pullup so he could lay the big hits when it mattered.
As somebody who can do more pull-ups than most, pull-ups can be overrated when it comes to hockey, where lower body strength is much more important. The shoulder, back, grip, and arm strength required for pull-ups can come in handy for shot power to an extent and winning battles, but shouldn't be a big part of the combines imo.
 
One of the hardest and clean hits I recall. Bennett is a ferocious hitter. Didn't expect this aspect of his game when he was drafted 4th overall.
 
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I see nothing wrong with this hit other than Slavin not being aware of his surroundings at all. Unfortunate he got hurt and hopefully he heals up quick so he can learn from it.

This is why Oshie is always injured on the Capitals, completely oblivious to what is going on around him.

"Skate like a princess, get laid out like a princess. " Eric Lindros or someone like that

Trigger warning for the video below, reason "people playing hockey"

A lot of people blame Stevens for that hit, I'm not one of them. Lindros knew what he did was stupid and tried to dump the puck which lowered his head.

 
I just found this and it was to good not to post here, I don't know whats more amazing the hit or the fact that Duchene never lets go of his stick.

 
I don't know if whine is the correct word, but as much as I like seeing a big clean hit, I don't want to see a guy get a concussion as a result of it seeing what we know about them now. I want to see the guy pop back up.
Sorry but that's the risk you take. In sorry the guy got hurt but it's part of the game. DWI. (deal with it).
 
Who knew Bennett could do something like that without being dirty?

Players seem to be letting their guard down because actual hits are so rare these days, and then every once in a while someone is getting really popped. Hope Slavin is ok.
 

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