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A real jerk thing
I'm guessing the crossover between Pittsburgh Penguins fans and Samuel Beckett fans is a pretty small demographic.
There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
I'm guessing the crossover between Pittsburgh Penguins fans and Samuel Beckett fans is a pretty small demographic.
Yep. The point is that when a team like Tampa is as good as it is elsewhere, they can afford to have a bottom 6 that isn't better than ours.
We should be constructing a more diverse and cohesive team pretty much across the board. If our top 6 were at least cohesive it'd be one thing, but it isn't.
Molinari has an article today wondering aloud if the Pens should go after Lundqvist when he’s medically cleared to play…lol
Hell, if you want to see non journeymen UFAs on the team/young kids making a play for a spot or two, signing Letang and Malkin to reasonable extensions makes it more likely than trading them.
There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
Kids yeah, but not sure on your logic on the UFAs.
Tbh, I figure if we want to retool, we're best off bringing back Malkin and Letang to teach a new generation, and trading off the late 20s guys with asset value (shame we let Rust walk to UFA in such a scenario). Letting them walk just gives you a lot of space to hand out Jason Zucker money to Jason Zucker players. I ain't got no problem with one or two of them if they've got the right fit, but filling a team is how you become Minnesota, not a team that retools for its future.
Maybe I phrased it a little badly, but I think we're roughly on the same page here. Giving the Pens that much cap space (because let's face it, you're not getting McK or whoever the new franchise face du jour is) for Malkin or Letang in the twilight of their careers. You'll get a good package of futures, but you'll need to sign some UFAs for insane contracts to keep things going until we get another 2 or 3 superstars to start the come up. You're not getting generational players in UFA, you're getting massively overpaid above-average players, like Zucker.
Plus, I agree that Malkin certainly is as much of a leader on this team as Sid is. Geno stays as long as he wants, same with Sid. Letang is slightly more variable but I think in the end he elects to stay a Pen for the rest of his career.
How are you proposing to have a better, more diverse bottom six than the one we've got for 9.3m (non Carter version) or 11.2m (Carter, who radically changes the look of it)? I mean, Blake Coleman and Barclay Goodrow are now worth nearly that non-Carter amount at 8.5m alone. Should we be paying up multiple 1sts to acquire the cheap versions of them that fit into our budget?
And what's the standard for a good enough bottom six where all of them (assuming Carter's in) tracked for over 20 5v5 points last season and two of them for over 30? Is this simply about attributes? How much more skill do you want than Carter at 3C, Blueger at 4C?
I get what you want. I think it's probably a good idea. I just don't see how we're meant to have a bottom six with these players unless you want to have a really expensive bottom six, which I know you don't, or you get them through the youth pipeline, and ours probably isn't ready yet.
There were a few options. If we wanted to diversify the bottom 6 at the bargain bin, we could've upgraded in terms of skill with a guy like Kase, or size with a guy like Perry. Both have their inherent risks, but I'd take either risk rather than be content with Rodrigues' vanilla standard that somehow manages to get rocketed up the depth chart at the first sign of an injury on Sid's line.
Ultimately I just wanted us to either get players who addressed our lack of of size, skill, and physical play or go ultra-cheap. We didn't do either. We've developed a habit for going after the safest/most familiar depth and complementary forwards available, and that's why these players rarely make an impact for us one way or the other.
Not another f’’king year of this! Why did they qualify him if they’re going to cheap out on him…
We shouldn't be paying ZAR much so I would've expected our offer to be maybe 1.25M for a year...he probably wants 2M or so
We shouldn't be paying ZAR much so I would've expected our offer to be maybe 1.25M for a year...he probably wants 2M or so
I would only ever trade Malkin for Eichel. Nobody else who is reasonably available. And Buffalo doesn't need Malkin.Lol at the hot "trade Malkin!" takes hitting the thread again.
I don’t think he’s going to get $2 mil but I think he will get at least $1.7 or $1.8…if the Pens were going to qualify him, then they should have been prepared to make a $1.7 offer at least to prevent him from going to arbitration … otherwise, don’t qualify him, which is what they should have done and what I thought they were going to do
There were a few options. If we wanted to diversify the bottom 6 at the bargain bin, we could've upgraded in terms of skill with a guy like Kase, or size with a guy like Perry. Both have their inherent risks, but I'd take either risk rather than be content with Rodrigues' vanilla standard that somehow manages to get rocketed up the depth chart at the first sign of an injury on Sid's line.
Ultimately I just wanted us to either get players who addressed our lack of of size, skill, and physical play or go ultra-cheap. We didn't do either. We've developed a habit for going after the safest/most familiar depth and complementary forwards available, and that's why these players rarely make an impact for us one way or the other.
If they qualifyed him before FA I get it bc there was no guarantee the FA would sign here.