Friedman: Sabres preparing for An Additional Top Ten Pick

[Canuck86]

Sure, but I don't give up 9OA for a winger. I would certainly consider it if Buffalo also took on a cap dump like Uncle Loui or Beagle!

It has to include them taking cap back, hopefully close to 5 m or so that may be combined between 2 players 1 with retention 1 without

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Eichel to Detroit

No thanks, The pieces that Detroit would need to surrender for Jack Eichel. Would only sets back our rebuild not help it.

 

[Taluss]

Assuming this is Eichel

2. Seattle Kraken -- A strong possibility
3. Anaheim Ducks -- A strong possibility
4. New Jersey Devils -- Maybe.
5. Columbus Blue Jackets -- Not sure why CBJ would be interested in him given where they're at. But maybe.
6. Detroit Red Wings -- Buffalo isn't trading him within the division.
7. San Jose Sharks -- SJ doesn't have the cap structure or pieces for this move.
8. Los Angeles Kings -- A strong possibility
9. Vancouver Canucks -- Maybe.
10. Ottawa Senators -- Buffalo isn't trading him within the division.

-Don't think Devils would be interested considering they have Hughes and Hischier
-Apparently LA is out of the running
- Sens have the pieces to get him and can put just as good of an offer than any other team on this list (besides LA who apparently isn't interested) and they are looking for a 1c. So id keep it a possibility

 

[ricku]

Eichel to vancouver for 1st+? Benning said he'll be 'aggressive' this offseason...

+++

 

[DanyHeatley]

Eichel

For

10th
C Logan Brown
C Colin White
D Erik Brannstrom
F Ridly Grieg
2022 1st (top 5 protected)

 

[Panthaz89]

You may be disappointed by whatever return you get for risto if that's your expectation

even as a Sabres fan I agree Risto has nowhere near that value unlike the other two.

 

[kerrabria]

-Don't think Devils would be interested considering they have Hughes and Hischier
-Apparently LA is out of the running
- Sens have the pieces to get him and can put just as good of an offer than any other team on this list (besides LA who apparently isn't interested) and they are looking for a 1c. So id keep it a possibility

Where'd you hear the news about LA?
And I'd imagine that Hughes would be on the table (and of major interested to Buffalo) in an Eichel trade.

 

[gordonhught]

Eichel

For

10th
C Logan Brown
C Colin White
D Erik Brannstrom
F Ridly Grieg
2022 1st (top 5 protected)

Too much for an injured eichel

 

[Irie]

Honest question here. SR is -100 in his career. -28 this past year. Is he really a good two way player? Is it just Buffalo that's driving those #'s?

Taylor hall was +15 with Boston, and -21 with Buffalo this year. Does that tell you anything about how good defensively Taylor Hall is? Or does it tell you how +/- is more of a team stat and a fairly useless measurement when evaluating individual players?

To me, it is the later. Read into it what you will.

 

[BigKing]

Let me rephrase that...Reinhart is going to draw a lot of interest (more than Eichel probably) and that will bid up his asking price. Expecting Buffalo to trade one of their top players who is still under team control for a draft pick that is years away from playing in the NHL is not going to work for them. I think you know that.

It already hasn't worked for Buffalo and this is a salvage mission. If they are trading Reinhart/Eichel/Risto then it is pretty much start over time. 8OA is always an attractive piece: especially if you are rebuilding and are already sitting on the 1OA. Now, I'm not saying 8OA gets it done by itself but I think Vilardi is too much of an additional asset unless Blake has soured on him.

That's what I'm thinking as well. Gives Byfield time to develop without pressure and when he's ready, Reinhart could shift to the wing. Risto would help the defensive side of things, the question tia what is the deal?

I want Reinhart immediately at RW on Byfield's wing. No need for Reinhart to play center at this point. The idea would be to surround Byfield with good wingers to help his transition.

 

[SUBdrewgANS]

Kasperi Kapanen got a 15th overall pick last year. The idea that Reinhart wouldn't return a late top-10 pick isn't all that crazy. Especially given the draft year.

You need to consider the GM that made that trade for Kapanen

 

[SI90]

Reinhart to the Kings

 

[Taluss]

Where'd you hear the news about LA?
And I'd imagine that Hughes would be on the table (and of major interested to Buffalo) in an Eichel trade.

For what it's worth, one of LA's most-connected (but highly-polarizing) bloggers said that the Kings are out of the Eichel sweepstakes.

Kings Summer Shopping List Doesn’t Include Jack Eichel

Ive seen the above link thrown around a few times, havent actually given it a read though honestly.

As for Hughes yeah hed be the one Sabres would be after in a Eichel trade Id imagine. Not sure if devils would be interested in that though, id personally doubt it.

 

[kinghock]

Where'd you hear the news about LA?
And I'd imagine that Hughes would be on the table (and of major interested to Buffalo) in an Eichel trade.

It is from LA insider John Hoven:
In talking with several sources around the organization over the past few weeks, there just doesn’t appear to be much interest in Buffalo Sabres forward Jack Eichel. You can point to any number of different reasons why — the neck injury and the big contract (five more years at a $10M AAV, including four years of a No Movement Clause) certainly come up often — yet, in the end, it’s the acquisition cost that most likely kills any deal for the 24-year-old center. The Kings aren’t looking to trade Quinton Byfield, period. That alone could sour the Sabres. On top of that, LA’s other top of the food chain assets are being saved for what they feel is their eventual ‘big move,’ namely a defenseman.

 

[Flash20]

Honest question here. SR is -100 in his career. -28 this past year. Is he really a good two way player? Is it just Buffalo that's driving those #'s?

Seeing how we Have Goalies that you could sign off the street for street hockey that pretty much answers your question

 

[VanOriginal]

I think everyone has it wrong, it's Jeff skinner and Kyle Okposo to Vancouver for No 9 pick, Jake Virtanen and Loui Eriksson.
The aggressive moves needed so Vancouver can have a shot at no 1 pick next year

 

[kinghock]

Reinhart to the Kings

I hope not.

 

[Flash20]

Assuming this is Eichel

2. Seattle Kraken -- A strong possibility
3. Anaheim Ducks -- A strong possibility
4. New Jersey Devils -- Maybe.
5. Columbus Blue Jackets -- Not sure why CBJ would be interested in him given where they're at. But maybe.
6. Detroit Red Wings -- Buffalo isn't trading him within the division.
7. San Jose Sharks -- SJ doesn't have the cap structure or pieces for this move.
8. Los Angeles Kings -- A strong possibility
9. Vancouver Canucks -- Maybe.
10. Ottawa Senators -- Buffalo isn't trading him within the division.

Dude every team could use a jack eichel

 

[KingTech]

I hope not.

May i ask why?

 

[kinghock]

May i ask why?

Because Kings is still team in rebuild process.
I believe if Kings will draft Kent Johnson or any of the big 4 defensemen with 8th pick they will be much better players…

 

[Panthaz89]

Taylor hall was +15 with Boston, and -21 with Buffalo this year. Does that tell you anything about how good defensively Taylor Hall is? Or does it tell you how +/- is more of a team stat and a fairly useless measurement when evaluating individual players?

To me, it is the later. Read into it what you will.

ROR -40 on the Sabres in 3 years wasn't enough to convince people of something so obvious and he was -23 in one of those years. When will people realize plus minus is simply a team stat it'd be a damn miracle if someone maintains even or positive plus minus playing top minutes on the bottom team in the league they are played in offensive sellout positions often and empty net situations and the Sabres had 6 different goalies in net this year only one of which was really NHL caliber and he only played 20 of the games.

 

[BCNate]

Taylor hall was +15 with Boston, and -21 with Buffalo this year. Does that tell you anything about how good defensively Taylor Hall is? Or does it tell you how +/- is more of a team stat and a fairly useless measurement when evaluating individual players?

To me, it is the later. Read into it what you will.

There are plenty of other stats like defensive point share, possession quality ect that do not reflect well on him either, this why is ask the question.

 

[kilowatt]

For the record, I would love to have Eichel in LA. He's better offensively than anyone we've had since Hart-finalist Kopitar, and before that, probably Ziggy Palffy. But if I'm Los Angeles, I don't trade Quinton Byfield, especially for a player with potential injury concerns. His cap hit is a hard pill to swallow too given that Doughty and Kopitar both have eight-figure cap hits.

I think the best course of action is to find a first line winger, a top four left-handed puck moving defenseman, and a middle six winger.

Guys like Hall, Saad, and Martinez would be interesting UFAs for LA (although I'm certain none of them will be playing for the Kings next season).

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Let me rephrase that...Reinhart is going to draw a lot of interest (more than Eichel probably) and that will bid up his asking price. Expecting Buffalo to trade one of their top players who is still under team control for a draft pick that is years away from playing in the NHL is not going to work for them. I think you know that.

He probably will, but he is 1 year from UFA and Arb rights. Lots of risk for a team if he doesn't want to sign long term.

 

[bobbyb2009]

From a Canucks POV I'd do a Reinhart for #9 and Roussel on the draft floor depending who is available.

Needs more cap going back. Have to add a Holtby and even Beagle to make it work with what Reinhart is going to get on his contract. Even then, not sure I would do this.... Canucks need a future not a present, but Jimbo.