Friedman: Sabres gauging the market on Byram

[MarkusKetterer]

I just want Mukhamadullin so Rob Ray can try to pronounce it

It’d be Mukhaf***this. And that’s when he’d be sober enough to try to pronounce that

 

[Beerz]

Don't forget his concussions!

Jack Quinn hasn't had any concussions i am aware of.

 

[TageGod]

I really think Buffalo will regret it if they sell low on him, and I don’t see any reason to. He’s a tremendous talent, but the Achilles injury is a hard one to come back from, and he obviously wasn’t able to have the summer he needed to before last season. He’s going to be cheap to bridge, so idk why we’d move him now when his value can only go up (and if the injury derails his whole career, then we’re not any worse off than if we traded him for junk).

In what world are they selling low on him? He had great production and a good season next to Dahlin. If anything, they are selling high on inflated stats from playing with Dahlin.

 

[Beerz]

In what world are they selling low on him? He had great production and a good season next to Dahlin. If anything, they are selling high on inflated stats from playing with Dahlin.

That post is about Quinn not Byram

 

[tsujimoto74]

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In what world are they selling low on him? He had great production and a good season next to Dahlin. If anything, they are selling high on inflated stats from playing with Dahlin.

We’re talking about Quinn.

 

[Fatass]

Imo the Sabres should be moving Byram (or Power, if he returns the better player) for the best top six forward that he returns. Would they want Zegras? They already have a couple big boys up front so maybe a smaller playmaker would fit?
Is that a fair value trade: Byram for Zegras?

 

[Beerz]

Imo the Sabres should be moving Byram (or Power, if he returns the better player) for the best top six forward that he returns. Would they want Zegras? They already have a couple big boys up front so maybe a smaller playmaker would fit?
Is that a fair value trade: Byram for Zegras?

Probably fair but not really the player I would be looking for. I'm not even sure Zegras is even a Center anymore because I don't want anymore wingers unless it is a unicorn type winger.

What i want Probably isn't available to us either because they are not available or NTC's.

I'd rather work on back end.. I think it is more doable. I think our defense and our Centers are in need of most work

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Imo the Sabres should be moving Byram (or Power, if he returns the better player) for the best top six forward that he returns. Would they want Zegras? They already have a couple big boys up front so maybe a smaller playmaker would fit?
Is that a fair value trade: Byram for Zegras?

Why a top 6 forward? They are already one of the highest scoring teams in the league at 5v5. Their team's inability to play defense is their problem. Zegras certainly doesn't help that

 

[Fatass]

Why a top 6 forward? They are already one of the highest scoring teams in the league at 5v5. Their team's inability to play defense is their problem. Zegras certainly doesn't help that

So even with Dahlin and Power they need better defensive D?

 

[tsujimoto74]

So even with Dahlin and Power they need better defensive D?

Dahlin can’t play all 60 minutes. More importantly, we have like 3 forwards who are above average defensively.

 

[Volica]

It's funny, because I think Rasmus Andersson and Blake Coleman solve a lot of problems for the Sabres.

Cons:
- Expiring deals, one in 2026 the other in 2027.
- Buffalo is probably on Rasmus' 6 team no-trade.
- Buffalo won't be on Coleman's 10 team approved list.

But those are probably the type of players that help them take the next steps. Both are absolute leaders on/off the ice. Both log a bunch of minutes. Both play both ends of the ice very well. Both can also chip in at a good scoring clip.

 

[RedHawkDown]

I'm not sure that Detroit and Buffalo make good trading partners but I'd like Byram. Issue is though that I'm also not sure he gets the #1D role he wants in Detroit either since we have Seider and Edvinsson who is likely going to become better than Seider. And then ASP will likely take over the PPQB role next year too.

 

[toddkaz]

So even with Dahlin and Power they need better defensive D?

Do you think Dahlin and Power play 60 minutes together?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

So even with Dahlin and Power they need better defensive D?

Neither of them are defensive dmen. Dahlin is fine but Power is only 22. They also have zero top 4 caliber RHD. Lastly it's 5v5, not 5v2. Your forwards need to also help out

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

It's funny, because I think Rasmus Andersson and Blake Coleman solve a lot of problems for the Sabres.

Cons:
- Expiring deals, one in 2026 the other in 2027.
- Buffalo is probably on Rasmus' 6 team no-trade.
- Buffalo won't be on Coleman's 10 team approved list.

But those are probably the type of players that help them take the next steps. Both are absolute leaders on/off the ice. Both log a bunch of minutes. Both play both ends of the ice very well. Both can also chip in at a good scoring clip.

100% agree, though I'm not sure if Ras is has them on his list. We know 2 teams (Vancouver and Edmonton), I could see a situation where even if Buffalo is on that list he waives there if they are willing to pay him. I highly doubt Coleman does though.

 

[zenator]

Good player, but with the achilles and the concussions, buyer beware. Not sure he'll have longevity in the NHL.

 

[Bellzy]

And Buffalo wants anything to do with Reilly because ????

Not sure if you read my post or not. Probably not. But I said Reilly to Vancouver for a forward or even a d because he’s from there. And then flip that said player to buffalo for byram. He requested a trade. They are gonna have to take what ever they can get.

 

[TageGod]

Imo the Sabres should be moving Byram (or Power, if he returns the better player) for the best top six forward that he returns. Would they want Zegras? They already have a couple big boys up front so maybe a smaller playmaker would fit?
Is that a fair value trade: Byram for Zegras?

Byram is probably worth more than Zegras imo. Dude is bad and can't stay healthy now. Power is worth Significantly more than Byram. Byram is being traded as a #2/3 D with PP1 potential. Power is a significantly higher upside version of Byram, with a huge physical trait advantage.

 

[is the answer jesus]

It's funny, because I think Rasmus Andersson and Blake Coleman solve a lot of problems for the Sabres.

Cons:
- Expiring deals, one in 2026 the other in 2027.
- Buffalo is probably on Rasmus' 6 team no-trade.
- Buffalo won't be on Coleman's 10 team approved list.

But those are probably the type of players that help them take the next steps. Both are absolute leaders on/off the ice. Both log a bunch of minutes. Both play both ends of the ice very well. Both can also chip in at a good scoring clip.

Agreed. Both of those guys would fill significant holes in our lineup.

Neither of them are defensive dmen. Dahlin is fine but Power is only 22. They also have zero top 4 caliber RHD. Lastly it's 5v5, not 5v2. Your forwards need to also help out

This is correct. We have exactly one defensive defenseman of significance on our roster in Samuelsson and he's a lefty and looked pretty brutal last year.

Good player, but with the achilles and the concussions, buyer beware. Not sure he'll have longevity in the NHL.

I'm not aware of Byram suffering any type of achilles injury, concussions absolutely, but as that gets further out I'd imagine that becomes less of an issue. There was talk about Quinn in this thread who ruptured his achilles, so I think you might be thinking about that.

 

[Djp]

It's funny, because I think Rasmus Andersson and Blake Coleman solve a lot of problems for the Sabres.

Cons:
- Expiring deals, one in 2026 the other in 2027.
- Buffalo is probably on Rasmus' 6 team no-trade.
- Buffalo won't be on Coleman's 10 team approved list.

But those are probably the type of players that help them take the next steps. Both are absolute leaders on/off the ice. Both log a bunch of minutes. Both play both ends of the ice very well. Both can also chip in at a good scoring clip.

ANDERSSON is not what Buffalo wants.

Neither of them are defensive dmen. Dahlin is fine but Power is only 22. They also have zero top 4 caliber RHD. Lastly it's 5v5, not 5v2. Your forwards need to also help out

Dahlin plays RD. He did before bring drafted and plays better

They want a def first RD to play with Power or byram

Samurlsson when healthy plays well e
with Dahlin

 

[tsujimoto74]

Not sure if you read my post or not. Probably not. But I said Reilly to Vancouver for a forward or even a d because he’s from there. And then flip that said player to buffalo for byram. He requested a trade. They are gonna have to take what ever they can get.

Not according to his agent lol. But even if we assume for the sake of argument that he did, Byram still has 2 more years until he can become a UFA. Buffalo has a lot of time to find a trade they like. There’s no logical reason to believe the Sabres should get poor value.

 

[Zman5778]

So even with Dahlin and Power they need better defensive D?

Dahlin can't play 60 minutes. And while Power is OK at playing defense in transition.......once the play bogs down in our end, he gets lost FAST. Kind of the same for Byram.

Our 2nd best D at playing defense is likely Connor Clifton. Samuelsson certainly SHOULD be our 2nd best D at playing defense, but his head got lodged in his ass at some point.

So to answer your question -- YES. We need at least 2 defensemen who play defense well. Maybe 3.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

ANDERSSON is not what Buffalo wants.

Right handed top 4 defenseman that is a team leader and warrior. Is also a great PKer and solid at defending in his own zone. Also making 4.55M. Sure there are probably better fits but good luck getting them, teams generally don't give away the type of player you are looking for.

Dahlin plays RD. He did before bring drafted and plays better

They want a def first RD to play with Power or byram

Samurlsson when healthy plays well e
with Dahlin

Nobody is arguing that Dahlin plays RD. He's not right handed though. Buffalo factually has zero top 4 right handed defensemen.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Dahlin can't play 60 minutes. And while Power is OK at playing defense in transition.......once the play bogs down in our end, he gets lost FAST. Kind of the same for Byram.

Our 2nd best D at playing defense is likely Connor Clifton. Samuelsson certainly SHOULD be our 2nd best D at playing defense, but his head got lodged in his ass at some point.

So to answer your question -- YES. We need at least 2 defensemen who play defense well. Maybe 3.

This right here is where Andersson is the opposite. Andersson is not a fast skater so generally he gets beat on the rush, however he is very solid in his own zone. He's great at getting in shooting lanes and winning board battles in the corner or in front of the net.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Man between this and the recent report about Peterka they might be blowing it up AGAIN