Friedman: Sabres gauging the market on Byram

[Zman5778]

What would be Buffalo's needs?

Two way center and defensively good RHD, preferably with an edge.

 

[Djp]

No surprise here.

We have talked about yhe nerd to make trades.

Hes an RFA . Power, Samuelson, and Dshlin on long contracts

I don't see any straight io him for a RD.

I see him for a F
Thrn Buffalo trades a F ( peterja/Quinn( for a RD

If they do s trsdr like in other thread from rangers like Peterka for schneider+ cuyle in termsbif 23 man roster players moved, then they could move Byram for futures/ picks

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

What would be Buffalo's needs?

 

[Volica]

Not worth discussing pick 9 and Andersson in the same conversation since he can't sign until July 1st. Personally I would be looking at Jack Quinn and Peyton Krebs as potential add ons. I could see Buffalo having interest in one of Coleman or Sharangovich (less likely) too.

But Byram fits the MO of all Conroy's previous trade targets so I think he will definitely be in on this

Byram + Krebs for Andersson + Any little adds
Would check a lot of boxes for Calgary. We know Calgary was looking at Krebs all last year, with all these bottom line centres coming off the books (Roon Dog, Kirkland and Hunt; all guys they used extensively in the 4C role) this would fill a need without having to go back to market. Gives a guy who could maybe jump up too in case of some injuries that maybe has a bit more pedigree than the aforementioned guys.

Not sure if Buffalo would want to make that deal, or that Razzy has the Sabres on the no-fly list... wondering if you could entice him with the thought of playing with a fellow Swede in Dahlin.

 

[Zman5778]

I don't see any straight io him for a RD.

I see him for a F
Thrn Buffalo trades a F ( peterja/Quinn( for a RD

Yeah....that's pretty much what I see as well. Use Byram to get a middle 6 forward with some sandpaper and then use one of our surplus forwards for RHD

 

[Canovin]

Maybe Peterka+Byram for Dobson+Pageau 50%

Buffalo solidify their defense with Dobson and can flip Pageau at the deadline or extend him as a #2C gapstop

 

[Dubi Doo]

McLeod plays 3C, they have Norris, Thompson and Kullich to play 1 and 2C

Thompson is better on wing, and Kulich needs time to cook before being counted on to play top-6C for an entire season, which is what makes Cirelli so enticing. He'd give Buffalo time to develop Kulich. Helenius, Ostlund, etc...into impact centers.

What you wrote is likely Adams thinking, unfortunately.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I don't even get what Nashville's direction is at this point.

Uh, the direction is: make some tweaks, maybe pick up some veteran depth (particularly at RD or C) in order to Contend For A Stanley Cup in 2025-26.


Byram is probably too young and not "RD" enough to really fit Trotz's masterplan?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Well, I think the futures thing with regards to Buffalo wanting an NHL player in return has a couple of roads Adams could go down. Yes it could be a one for one player trade, or, if the futures offer is good enough Adams could package that futures offer with Buffalo’s futures and get a player. In other words, it may not be as limiting as some perceive it to be. But we’ll see where this goes, either way Adams has to address the actual roster as many are saying.

The funky idea I like is the Islanders deciding to sell and a 3-way deal between the Penguins, Sabres and Islanders where the Penguins get Byram, the Sabres get Dobson and the Islanders get a ton of futures from Pittsburgh and some mild futures from Buffalo.

No clue what that actual trade looks like, though. Maybe something like:

Penguins trade NYR 1st and 2 2026 2nds, get Byram
Sabres trade Byram and Rosen, get Dobson
Islanders trade Dobson, get Rosen, NYR 1st and 2 2026 2nds

 

[toddkaz]

Leafs should be interested. But I think Sabres fans will be disappointed with his eventual return given he returned Middlestat and then hasn't exactly done anything in Buffalo

What does Mittelstadt have to do with the value of Byram?

 

[toddkaz]

Byram for picks makes sense as they will have the cap to extend McLeod, Peterka and Jack Quinn. Use the picks to deal for a position of need once they have the cap space.

No way they trade Byram for picks when they need a top 4RHD.

Its going to be a hockey trade one for one.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Thompson is better on wing, and Kulich needs time to cook before being counted on to play top-6C for an entire season, which is what makes Cirelli so enticing. He'd give Buffalo time to develop Kulich. Helenius, Ostlund, etc...into impact centers.

What you wrote is likely Adams thinking, unfortunately.

You can't play Kulich at 4C though, that's the problem. McLeod can play 2C and Norris at 1C, then Kulich at 3C, it really doesn't matter what order but those 3 should be your top 9 centers right now. I'm not debating Buffalo should target players that improve their roster now, just that their center depth is not in a dire state. Players who can defend in general are what they need

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

The funky idea I like is the Islanders deciding to sell and a 3-way deal between the Penguins, Sabres and Islanders where the Penguins get Byram, the Sabres get Dobson and the Islanders get a ton of futures from Pittsburgh and some mild futures from Buffalo.

No clue what that actual trade looks like, though. Maybe something like:

Penguins trade NYR 1st and 2 2026 2nds, get Byram
Sabres trade Byram and Rosen, get Dobson
Islanders trade Dobson, get Rosen, NYR 1st and 2 2026 2nds

This seems like the exact opposite of what Pittsburgh needs to be doing.

 

[Empoleon8771]

This seems like the exact opposite of what Pittsburgh needs to be doing.

They're trying to retool like the Capitals and Byram is a young top-4 LD that fills a massive long-term need for the organization. That is the exact kind of move the Penguins should and seemingly will be looking to make.

Byram is 23 right now, even if it takes another 5 years for the Penguins to be good again he'll still be in his prime.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

The funky idea I like is the Islanders deciding to sell and a 3-way deal between the Penguins, Sabres and Islanders where the Penguins get Byram, the Sabres get Dobson and the Islanders get a ton of futures from Pittsburgh and some mild futures from Buffalo.

No clue what that actual trade looks like, though. Maybe something like:

Penguins trade NYR 1st and 2 2026 2nds, get Byram
Sabres trade Byram and Rosen, get Dobson
Islanders trade Dobson, get Rosen, NYR 1st and 2 2026 2nds

What does Dobson do for Buffalo? He can't defend, he won't get PP1 time, and will want 9M this summer.

Also how does this make any sense for the Penguins rebuild?

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Can the Avs just get a mulligan on this, Mittelstadt was a lemon so can we just get a refund?

 

[EichelsJockStrap]

Byram for picks makes sense as they will have the cap to extend McLeod, Peterka and Jack Quinn. Use the picks to deal for a position of need once they have the cap space.

This makes 0% sense..... Sabres are not trading players for picks.

 

[Empoleon8771]

What does Dobson do for Buffalo? He can't defend, he won't get PP1 time, and will want 9M this summer.

Uh what? Dobson is a great 2-way defenseman.

Also how does this make any sense for the Penguins rebuild?

The Penguins are trying to have a retool like the Capitals, not a full scale rebuild. Trading a 1st+ for Byram is the same thing Washington did when they traded a 1st+ for Sandin.

 

[miscs75]

The funky idea I like is the Islanders deciding to sell and a 3-way deal between the Penguins, Sabres and Islanders where the Penguins get Byram, the Sabres get Dobson and the Islanders get a ton of futures from Pittsburgh and some mild futures from Buffalo.

No clue what that actual trade looks like, though. Maybe something like:

Penguins trade NYR 1st and 2 2026 2nds, get Byram
Sabres trade Byram and Rosen, get Dobson
Islanders trade Dobson, get Rosen, NYR 1st and 2 2026 2nds

Yeah, Rosen doesn’t move the needle for me and I’d rather keep Dobson then that offer.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

They're trying to retool like the Capitals and Byram is a young top-4 LD that fills a massive long-term need for the organization. That is the exact kind of move the Penguins should and seemingly will be looking to make.

Byram is 23 right now, even if it takes another 5 years for the Penguins to be good again he'll still be in his prime.

He turns 24 in the offseason and realistically, it's gonna be longer than 5 years for PIT.

PIT is essentially the 16-17 Red Wings, or the 19-20 Sharks.

 

[MrLunatik]

Andersson has expressed a lot of interest in staying in Calgary but they are quite far apart on negotiations from whats been reported. I don't think the Buffalo weather would be a big deterrent for him considering how bad Calgary can get in the winter. I think if they are willing to pay him he would probably be willing to sign there.

2x2 is not "quite far apart" for a starting point, it's actually really close for starting points.... I know you'll extrapolate that to saying they're apart by 14m, but 14m over 5-7 years is not a big gap to start

 

[Theodore450]

Habs should be all over this and they can be be free to throw matheson to some poor chap.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Leafs should be interested. But I think Sabres fans will be disappointed with his eventual return given he returned Middlestat and then hasn't exactly done anything in Buffalo

What do the Leafs have left to offer? Their 2042 1st and Cowan?

 

[MrLunatik]

No surprise here.

We have talked about yhe nerd to make trades.

Hes an RFA . Power, Samuelson, and Dshlin on long contracts

I don't see any straight io him for a RD.

I see him for a F
Thrn Buffalo trades a F ( peterja/Quinn( for a RD

If they do s trsdr like in other thread from rangers like Peterka for schneider+ cuyle in termsbif 23 man roster players moved, then they could move Byram for futures/ picks

any chance Samuelsson gets bought out? Because of his age it'd only be a 33% buyout and while the penalties would last forever they'd be under 715k

 

[Dominance]

Wherever he goes, for the love of god, get him on PP1. Kid was 15th in the league in EVP among defensemen and managed to be a strong + player on the Sabres, he could easily hit 60 points on a team where he isn’t blocked.