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Sabres don’t fire Adams or Ruff

Sabres imo have (potentially) one of the top young cores in the league. They need to make a couple changes (trades). They have three high end left shot D who could all play the number one role. Trade two of them either directly for good players to fill holes in the lineup or for assets to flip for the players needed. Adams might surprise this summer.
 
Someone else said they don’t know if they blame the gm/coach for the failure and I’m inclined to agree. While I don’t think either guy is at the top of the class they’ve had a couple of teams in the recent past that on paper looked a lot better than they played. Thompson blew up a couple of years ago, then had a pretty rough year last season to follow it up did he not? He was better this year but overall this roster leans heaving on the top guys so they have to be at their best all the time, and they need the next generation to step up to make that next level. McLeod was a good pickup and it seemed that late in the season Quinn showed up more. Benson is a good player but he’s young.

Blame to me at this point is more on the players for this current build, but even that is a bit unfair as they’re currently counting on young guys to take the next step. I think they do have a lot of good pieces in place. When you take in the whole decade it’s rough, but I do honestly think they’re close with this build. It’s tough for them to get quality free agents and most of what other gms want in trade are the building blocks they need to actually build on. They need guys like Benson and Quinn to take the next step, find an Ekholm like dman, somehow make Norris a consistently healthy dude.
 
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bleedgreen said:
Someone else said they don’t know if they blame the gm/coach for the failure and I’m inclined to agree. While I don’t think either guy is at the top of the class they’ve had a couple of teams in the recent past that on paper looked a lot better than they played. Thompson blew up a couple of years ago, then had a pretty rough year last season to follow it up did he not? He was better this year but overall this roster leans heaving on the top guys so they have to be at their best all the time, and they need the next generation to step up to make that next level. McLeod was a good pickup and it seemed that late in the season Quinn showed up more. Benson is a good player but he’s young.

Blame to me at this point is more on the players for this current build, but even that is a bit unfair as they’re currently counting on young guys to take the next step. I think they do have a lot of good pieces in place. When you take in the whole decade it’s rough, but I do honestly think they’re close with this build. It’s tough for them to get quality free agents and most of what other gms want in trade are the building blocks they need to actually build on. They need guys like Benson and Quinn to take the next step, find an Ekholm like dman, somehow make Norris a consistently healthy dude.
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If it's on the players as you say, then isn't that on Adams? Every single player on this team was either drafted, traded for, or signed/extended by Adams. There are no holdover contracts from the previous GM.

Adams chose every single player on this roster over the last 5 years.
 
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If it's on the players as you say, then isn't that on Adams? Every single player on this team was either drafted, traded for, or signed/extended by Adams. There are no holdover contracts from the previous GM.

Adams chose every single player on this roster over the last 5 years.
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And the roster is pretty good on paper. Which is really all a gm can do. Get the best players he can get his hands on.

The players have to play. The gm can't do that for them. I’m not saying he doesn’t share a part in all this, of course he does. I just don’t believe that a different gm would’ve done that much different, or that many coaches would’ve gotten more out of the team. Of course there might be someone out there that would’ve been perfect but obviously they feel the right voice is there for now. Without a great replacement lined up, then they should be patient.

We as fans have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. Ruff might be exactly what they need. This year could set the stage for next. Of course we’ve been saying that for a decade but at some point the sentence will be true. I think Adam’s quotes about getting free agents is correct, the current generation doesn’t look at Buffalo as a destination and likely wouldn’t even if they were better. As a Canes fan I’ve seen both sides of this. Before no one wanted to go there because they sucked but they’ve been good for years now and they still don’t automatically attract the top dogs. Both teams are best off trading for guys with term but you have to have the ammo to pay the price to get the player. Buffalo is still building and they shouldn’t sell youth for short term gain unless they feel they have “extra” pieces.
 
bleedgreen said:
And the roster is pretty good on paper. Which is really all a gm can do. Get the best players he can get his hands on.

The players have to play. The gm can't do that for them. I’m not saying he doesn’t share a part in all this, of course he does. I just don’t believe that a different gm would’ve done that much different, or that many coaches would’ve gotten more out of the team. Of course there might be someone out there that would’ve been perfect but obviously they feel the right voice is there for now. Without a great replacement lined up, then they should be patient.

We as fans have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. Ruff might be exactly what they need. This year could set the stage for next. Of course we’ve been saying that for a decade but at some point the sentence will be true. I think Adam’s quotes about getting free agents is correct, the current generation doesn’t look at Buffalo as a destination and likely wouldn’t even if they were better. As a Canes fan I’ve seen both sides of this. Before no one wanted to go there because they sucked but they’ve been good for years now and they still don’t automatically attract the top dogs. Both teams are best off trading for guys with term but you have to have the ammo to pay the price to get the player. Buffalo is still building and they shouldn’t sell youth for short term gain unless they feel they have “extra” pieces.
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The roster is not good on paper.

There have been gaping holes at 1C, 2C, #2D, #4D, #1G for the last 4 seasons.
 
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Sabres used to be a good team.

I remember those teams in the late 90’s and mid to late 00’s that were difficult to play against.

Buffalo needs to add some toughness, 1C or 2C wouldn’t hurt either and get rid of big injured softies like Greenway and Samuelsson.
 
TheDawnOfANewTage said:
This is rather surprising, given that the team f***ing sucked despite having a decent roster, so many high draft picks, and a record number of years without playoffs. Should they have been fired? Yes. Why weren’t they? Because Terry is a cheap bastard man. Discuss.

Seriously, the pp and pk were so f***ing bad, you can’t tell me this is a pro coaching staff. Money isn’t being spent on basic billionaire shit, it’s a problem. The NHL has a derelict owner.
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Terry is too busy keeping his nepo daughter relevent in tennis.
 
Clint Eastwood said:
A Sabres fan told me that when they hired Ruff, he couldn't bring in his own coaching staff and had to stick with the guys they already had.

I'm too lazy to look that up as I eat some cinnamon bread before work, but if anyone can confirm or deny that for me, I thank you in advance.
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Based and cinnamon breadpilled.
 
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