GDT: Sabres at Avalanche, 9:00 p.m. EST

[K8fool]

I’ve watched maybe 2 games all season. I’ve had center ice/espn+ since its inception. I used to buy at least a jersey/hat a season…haven’t in 5 years. I’m f’n done. Time is an investment and it’s well spent elsewhere at this point

this is their victory buffalo is a cool melting pot city United by sport and names of bill and the flaming swords that keep scum away from the tree of life

 

[K8fool]

I can go toe to toe as I empathize as we have a great fan base but it's not worth

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go brush yr teeth w flouride band cote for lesser evil which is CONSENT IM for all.of you I wish I wasn't though as it's generally a.waste of time to notice truth and be kind loving and honest

ps we won this game

we caved and lost the one in buffalo

go sabres players and family in hell right now , playing for our city and ex pats

f Colorado and everything that defense contract darpa state stands for oooh u needed a 5 on 3 to have a chance I wish Brian Spencer broke his stick over Coltons head take yr victories inside entertainment

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Marty disagrees with you....

maybe I should be on tv ?

 

[Krieger Bot]

Benson again on top for advanced stats. He is gonna get it sooner or later and the points will come.

-3.5 in EH's model? Yikes. Can't happen bud. Even when your team is playing poorly. This is the NHL. You have to make tough stops from time to time.

 

[SundherDome]

The worst is you see a team like Colorado making waiver claims and making trades even though they are one of the best in the league.

Then there is Adams...In love with his roster.

And yet Colorado is one MacKinnon injury away from being is.

 

[Steddy33]

Not sure what's there to understand. I saw an entertaining game, my team lost, as expected.

Not sure if you're just trolling at this point.

You seriously can't understand why posters would be super pissed about this type of loss? Oh... ok

 

[Fjordy]

And yet Colorado is one MacKinnon injury away from being is.

And yet they win the cup, regularly make the playoffs, although they too have had problems with the roster and injuries over the years (Landeskog, Nichushkin). And we are still there, in the shit below.

 

[SundherDome]

Not sure if you're just trolling at this point.

You seriously can't understand why posters would be super pissed about this type of loss? Oh... ok

I think the point is, it's just a game that should have no meaning other than entertainment on our lives. There are a lot of people out there that take it wayyy to serious and let it influence their decisions (See Raiders fans).

And yet they win the cup, regularly make the playoffs, although they too have had problems with the roster and injuries over the years (Landeskog, Nichushkin). And we are still there, in the shit below.

Yup, one or two players can absolutely carry a team. Also, Colorado has been hideous at getting goaltending, the ship one out every few years after costing us a playoff run should have had Sakic fired, not promoted.

 

[Archie Lee]

Benson again on top for advanced stats. He is gonna get it sooner or later and the points will come.

I enjoy Chad’s content. But, it is analytics-egg-headedness at the highest level to watch tonight’s game and break it down to xga.

 

[Steddy33]

I think the point is, it's just a game that should have no meaning other than entertainment on our lives. There are a lot of people out there that take it wayyy to serious and let it influence their decisions (See Raiders fans).

He was basically saying an overtime loss is an overtime loss, how it happened doesn't matter. That's just plain silly

 

[Faceboner]

Our mid six is inexperienced cozens and Krebs being the oldest ones who are still young trying to find their place in the league to much immaturity with Benson kulich jjp and Quinn. Quinn missed a full year Benson is 19 still jjp is decent but still has room for more polish and is only 22 along with Quinn and this is kulich's first full taste. It's hard to task cozens in his role without another vet on his line as Quinn hasn't been keeping up and jjp like I said is good but that leaves cozens to do all the heavy lifting in the d-zobe and transition game I feel like the second line would click with a vet in place of Quinn as he isn't playing up to top 6 standards

 

[Fjordy]

Yup, one or two players can absolutely carry a team. Also, Colorado has been hideous at getting goaltending, the ship one out every few years after costing us a playoff run should have had Sakic fired, not promoted.

Haven't they been in the playoffs for seven years in a row? And they recently won the cup. And we have never made it to the playoffs. Our owner and GM are two idiots.

 

[toddkaz]

And yet Colorado is one MacKinnon injury away from being is.

MacKinnon is injured?

 

[K8fool]

watch the Patriots for a while .. tell you what I'll lay 100k cash on the table and let you try to prove to me sports aren't dead and if u can honestly honorable w PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and HONOR you can have it


why is really complicated and under debate

I agree w the two icings?
the 5 on three that let them back in ?

really , not a dive and a good defensive play on break ( I'll give that one but 5 on 3 used to be rare, no ) convenient timing


the best part is it is indefensible cia position of plausible deniability as anyone ME YES MYSELF APPEARS WEAK A p***y ETC HILARIOUS .


as I watch contractors CIA kinda take over cheap hotels and drive those on margins into jail or switch drugs of the abused and raped w fentanyl and tranq evil zilozine etc sports isn't important just an F U to certain fan bases

let me guess yr above it you believe there are social services to help the homeless right , you vote , war is honorable ww2 wasn't just a set up to murder each countries youth ww1 wasn't just to consolidate power in families to establish fed and murder youth , Vietnam Afghan to control heroin..nahh and kill and experiment on youth and etc etc


I'm still watching as we all manifest reality , help us fook the league and manifest a even playing field and the guys like the bills that say fook it when it's clearly not

i do not mean to offend honor In all forms even misled is something to embrace those that defend themselves and family .


hockey was a great passion play and in 75 we got out muscled not out hockeyed

99 screwed and 2006 injuries and we wouldn't have to tolerate Adams Inability to finish building team like football that could win on a tilted rink and eat Toronto executives and zebra burgers like we might just see someday 4 games in a row

 

[Ace]

I guarantee that Colorado is not one MacKinnon injury away from losing almost a full month of hockey games.

 

[Uberpecker]

Not sure if you're just trolling at this point.

You seriously can't understand why posters would be super pissed about this type of loss? Oh... ok

The fact that I refuse to let myself get sucked into a flurry of negativity and have my day ruined by a team's loss but rather chose to assess the game I just saw realistically makes me a troll. Well if you say so, I guess.

I think the point is, it's just a game that should have no meaning other than entertainment on our lives. There are a lot of people out there that take it wayyy to serious and let it influence their decisions (See Raiders fans).

This guy gets it.

He was basically saying an overtime loss is an overtime loss, how it happened doesn't matter. That's just plain silly

Way to put words in my mouth. I saw a high-quality game where one team was noticeably better than the other, but it took them until the last seconds to score the tying goal. Does that suck if you root for the other team? Absof***inglutely. Did I hate it when it happened? Totally. But it still doesn't change the fact that the better team won.

Furthermore, I also saw a goal for my team I simply can't root for, no matter the exact rules, since it was a direct result of an opposing player's injury and wouldn't have happened without that injury.
Am I saying Benson or anyone was at fault here? No, and it's not the point, either.
What I'm saying is I can't root for that goal, I don't wanna see it and they obviously caught a major break when it happened.

Finally, I don't subscribe to this esoteric voo-voo mental toughness mumbojumbo.
What it comes down to is just a combo of behavioral patterns combined with the sum of the goings-on of the concrete moment. That's it.

Complaining about a player not being "mentally tough" is exactly the same as critizing them for not being a better stick-handler or not being taller. These are professional athletes that honed their craft for decades. This is what the are able to give at this moment, it is what it is, it weighs as much as it weighs.

 

[Dreakon13]

I dunno who to blame at this point, probably a little of everyone, but this group just cannot and will not hold onto a lead. Ever. If they do it's just pure luck (ie. other team missing the net, UPL happens to hurl himself in the right direction at the right time, etc).

I'd almost rather they go down a few goals early, because there's no amount of goals they can score on a team that'd actually make me feel comfortable. I wish I were kidding but even if they scored 8 unanswered goals in the first period against any team... I'd have to assume the other team would still come back, and 9 out of 10 times that's what would happen. It's crazy and a level of frustrating I can't even really process anymore lol.

Silver lining, if they can figure out how to defend as a team and handle pressure at an NHL level, I think this group has some potential I think they've kinda cracked the code on how to score again.

 

[GrierIsGod123]

let me guess yr above it you believe there are social services to help the homeless right , you vote , war is honorable ww2 wasn't just a set up to murder each countries youth ww1 wasn't just to consolidate power in families to establish fed and murder youth , Vietnam Afghan to control heroin..nahh and kill and experiment on youth and etc etc


I'm still watching as we all manifest reality , help us fook the league and manifest a even playing field and the guys like the bills that say fook it when it's clearly not

i do not mean to offend honor In all forms even misled is something to embrace those that defend themselves and family .


hockey was a great passion play and in 75 we got out muscled not out hockeyed

99 screwed and 2006 injuries and we wouldn't have to tolerate Adams Inability to finish building team like football that could win on a tilted rink and eat Toronto executives and zebra burgers like we might just see someday 4 games in a row

You ok man?

 

[GrierIsGod123]

I dunno who to blame at this point, probably a little of everyone, but this group just cannot and will not hold onto a lead. Ever. If they do it's just pure luck (ie. other team missing the net, UPL happens to hurl himself in the right direction at the right time, etc).

I'd almost rather they go down a few goals early, because there's no amount of goals they can score on a team that'd actually make me feel comfortable. I wish I were kidding but even if they scored 8 unanswered goals in the first period against any team... I'd have to assume the other team would still come back, and 9 out of 10 times that's what would happen. It's crazy and a level of frustrating I can't even really process anymore lol.

Silver lining, if they can figure out how to defend as a team and handle pressure at an NHL level, I think this group has some potential I think they've kinda cracked the code on how to score again.

The problem is...this group isn't capable of doing both. They can score in run & gun games, but cannot defend strong enough to fend off any decent attack from the other team. They're largely low IQ, mental midgets outside of Zucker, Benson, Dahlin. We not one single line that we can trust to play strong defense in clutch moments. I'd honestly be most comfortable with Benson and Kulich than any of our dumb "core".

 

[Buff15Sabres]

I enjoy Chad’s content. But, it is analytics-egg-headedness at the highest level to watch tonight’s game and break it down to xga.

I hate it when people look at xga as solely a goalie stat and in many cases I think it's drastically wrong.

This stat is saying the average goalie would've only allowed 2.5 goals over the final 25 minutes instead of the 6 that UPL allowed.

My eye test says the average goalie would've allowed ~5 goals.

1st goal - Makar skates around Zucker and Power like they are pylons and roofs a shot top corner. Not saveable

2nd goal - rebound goal from an unmarked guy just outside the crease. Not saveable

3rd goal - One timer off a cross ice pass on a 5 on 3. Almost unsaveable

4th goal - The only one I'd complain about. Seeing eye shot from the point that makes it through like 4 players. UPL never saw it but it's an easy save if he does

5th goal - unmarked guy in the slot roofs it top corner. Not saveable

6th goal - breakaway goal after a pathetic turnover by Tage. Could've saved it but I'm not blaming the goalie on that one

 

[DapperCam]

Upon reflection, the Sabres skaters did kind of choke the last 10 minutes or so, but I think I’m directing the blame towards UPL for this one. He choked just as much if not more. I guess just like every other player on the roster he is very young and not immune to shrinking in big moments like the rest of them.

Hey Adams, maybe moments like this are why we should have some veterans who have been in this situation before and don’t panic.

 

[BFLO]

I'm actually not. But I also don't lose my shit because the team I root for lost an entertaining game against a better team in OT.

You win some you lose some.

*You win some, you lose enough games every season for 14 seasons(and counting) in a row not to make the playoffs.

 

[Chainshot]

I’ve watched maybe 2 games all season. I’ve had center ice/espn+ since its inception. I used to buy at least a jersey/hat a season…haven’t in 5 years. I’m f’n done. Time is an investment and it’s well spent elsewhere at this point

Hear hear. I am reconciling my love for the sport with my distaste for the NHL and the abusive relationship I have with the Sabres in particular.

 

[Buff15Sabres]

With regards to the Benson goal, didn't we have a similar goal go against us earlier this season? I remember one of our defenders (Gilbert?) checking a forward into the goalie (UPL?), who was then flat on his face for a few seconds without the refs blowing it dead, and the opposing team scored on an open net from the point. Can't remember what game that was in

 

[Chainshot]

The problem is...this group isn't capable of doing both. They can score in run & gun games, but cannot defend strong enough to fend off any decent attack from the other team. They're largely low IQ, mental midgets outside of Zucker, Benson, Dahlin. We not one single line that we can trust to play strong defense in clutch moments. I'd honestly be most comfortable with Benson and Kulich than any of our dumb "core".

Not getting that they're low IQ but I am getting that they are generally lazy and cowardly. They don't do basics that require some measure of discomfort - namely puck battles and going to AND STAYING AT the net front. It's been years of this and with very few exceptions, very little of the team does either. A team can't play strong defense if they aren't willing to engage around the net to establish body position to move their check or inhibit their stick. Nor can a team that can't/won't win puck battles in any zone regain possession.

Peeling off on net drives is a way of life for the Sabres. It's why it's so noticeable when a kid like Benson or Kulich goes there because so many of the rest of the team just daisy curl out toward the side boards and away from conflict. Same in their own zone where guys regularly just watch players dig out pucks and jab away at their goaltender. They are cowards.