Peace Frog
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Confirmed with Link: Ryan Tverberg signed to a 3 year ELC that starts next season
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Mitch nylander
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Reminds me a bit of a young Hyman. Really tenacious, hard working, two-way forward from UCONN, interested to see how he transitions.
Menzinger
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Fantastic return so far for a 7h round pick
Depending on how things eventually shake out the Leafs could see a number of players emerge from their 2020 draft
Depending on how things eventually shake out the Leafs could see a number of players emerge from their 2020 draft
Love how he skates and competes. I think he will be a great pro.
Happy to have him in house; pro training and conditioning, hard nosed player, feel good story already.
Curious to see if he gets reps at C or W. My guess is some of both.
Curious to see if he gets reps at C or W. My guess is some of both.
justashadowof
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He's a bit Knies-lite with a pro style approach to his game. Drafting a North American player in the 7th round worth giving an ELC is well above grade already.
acrobaticgoalie
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Been saying this for a while now. Imagine if we resign O'Rielly and Acciari and all of Knies, Minten, Hirvonen and Tverberg all reach their potential in say 2 years?
Knies Matthews Marner
Tavares O'Rielly Nylander
Robertson/Hirvonen Minten Acciari
McMann/Hirvonen Holmberg Tverberg
That would be a pain in the ass to play against and a fun team to watch.
This contract doesn’t kick in until next year.
also this kids legit. He even has quite a physical aspect to him that may surprise some
Stephen
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Isn’t he a pandemic draft pick who didn’t have anywhere to play? I thought Tverberg skated with some Leafs locally for some reason and his dad sent demo tapes to the Leafs or something random like that. He’ll be an interesting story to follow. Kind of reminds me of Hyman in a way.
ktownhockey
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Coached against him when he was in Minor Midget (Junior Canadians) we was tiny but you could tell the talent and will to win was there. He was really good, and was happy the Leafs took a chance on him. Great story for a late physical bloomer who always had the mind and the talent. Wishing the best for him!
kb
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ICBM
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What talent did Dubas find? Because there are none late round draft picks on current roster. I don't know whether Dubas is so bad at drafting or developing (or both). But that's a fact.
6 years of drafting and no starter, no pp quarterback, no good shutdown dman, no top-6 power forward.
How many draft picks have we traded over those yrs a shit load.
Especially 1st and 2nd rd pks
The 2020 nhl draft
We draft Amirov he got cancer if not he probably would have been making his nhl debut next season
Our 20 th pk that yr had to be traded to get rid of Marleau's contract.
The 2020 draft except for Stuzle the top 5 picks not living up to expectation
No on in the 2nd rd has made a dint yet.
2019 1st was traded for Muzzin
No one drafted after the 22 pk in the first rd has played an nhl game.
Our 2nd rd pk Robertson has had injury issues but one of the few players drafted in the 2nd rd to play nhl games.
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You can at least look shit up before making it up dude
In 2019 14 players just in the second round including 4 drafted after Robertson have played NHL games ( I didn't bother to look at the rest of the rounds
2020 7 have already played NHL games from the second or third rounds of that draft. Including Peterka who has double the number of games as Robertson
It's no one but Dubas's fault that we've burned through assets.
Our drafting also hasn't been as good as everyone hypes it up to be. If it was we wouldn't be playing 11-7 right now
We have 0 Dubas picks on the active NHL roster right now
I believe only two are playing consistent games in the league at the moment tells you all you need to know. He's no better then anyone else at this
ULF_55
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Kind of off topic, but you mention "grade", curious about his grades in the courses he took.
Was he a student athlete, or an athlete student.
acrobaticgoalie
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I just took a look at your examples and none of those players are playing on contenders. They're getting NHL games because their teams are mostly bad and have spots available. Other than Peterka, Pinto and Kaliyev, no one is a regular or being impactful. Even then, are any of these guys playing in our top 6 or playing over our bottom 6 role players at this time? They wouldn't be taking Acciari, Kampf, Lafferty Or Jarnkrok out. Maybe over Kerfoot, but even then, he still serves as a solid PKer. I'm not sure if healthy that Robertson would even be a regular in the lineup right now.
Next year I would expect that spots will be available for Knies, Robertson and Holmberg.
Sodegard, kotcheckov just to name a couple impactful players in the first.
I think it's time to face the facts that we're no better or worse at drafting then the other teams are. We don't get credit for burning firsts either, so giving him the excuse that we haven't picked in the first a lot is pretty invalid imo. We've so far burned them for 0 playoff success
acrobaticgoalie
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Soogard isn't on a contender and is playing because Forsberg is done for the year and Talbot is 35 and having a bad year. Soogard is a good prospect but he isn't playing on our roster. We have a young goalie prospect having a phenomenal year as well in Woll and isn't on our roster over Sammy and Murray.
Kochetkov has played games this year because because both Freddy and Raanta are injury prone. Same thing as Soogard, he wouldn't be on our roster right now either.
Getting rid of 1sts and having no playoff success is definitely fair. I hate trading 1st for rentals as well. Every contender trades 1sts for playoff runs. Tampa, Colorado and Boston have the worst prospect pools in the league. The only difference is they've had playoff success to show for trading all their picks and our team can't seem to elevate their game and be consistent to get over the hump. Having said that, we at least have solid depth in our pool despite trading a ton picks and why we are ranked around 18-22 in most prospect pool rankings.
I definitely agree with you re the picks.
I think being in the middle tier is definitely fine 10-20ish but the media etc on occasions acts like we've reinvented drafting.
We have some hits and we have some misses either way it's been fine but we're not crushing the drafting game or anything like people want to think. We're nothing Terrible nothing astounding as of yet
ICBM
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Current Leaf team still lacks all above mentioned in my post. Boston and Tampa do not. That's what separates good managers from bad ones. And that's only thing that matters.
Kyle '0 picks' Dubas)) I like it.
Menzinger
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Though, most picks, especially in the 2-7 range are going to take a longer development cycle (often closer to 3-5 years than just 1-2).. and that's where most of the Leafs picks have been in recent years (and yes, management has to own that fact by their own choice)
Take Dubas' first draft - 2 NHL regulars so far and a total of 6 of the Leafs selections have played a single NHL game so far. Holmberg (another 6th round pick) looks to be an NHL regular next season with the Leafs.
I'd say it's not unreasonable to say so far that the Leafs later round draft selections of the last few cycles are probably tracking above average compared to most guys taken in that range - Teverberg's well deserved ELC is the latest example of that.
Take Dubas' first draft - 2 NHL regulars so far and a total of 6 of the Leafs selections have played a single NHL game so far. Holmberg (another 6th round pick) looks to be an NHL regular next season with the Leafs.
I'd say it's not unreasonable to say so far that the Leafs later round draft selections of the last few cycles are probably tracking above average compared to most guys taken in that range - Teverberg's well deserved ELC is the latest example of that.
