Toggle sidebar

RW Nail Yakupov - Nizhnekamsk Neftekhimik, KHL

Canovin

Canovin

1% is the new 11.5%
Oct 27, 2010
18,012
9,159
780
s7ark said:
Agreed. Perhaps it may be like comparing clutch and grab NHL vs the post 1st lockout? I dunno I haven't watched a lot of RSL vs KHL hockey.

If people don't like comparing RSL to KHL I guess we can only compare him to other top rated young Russians post draft seasons in the KHL. Not really as useful because none of them have proven squat in the NHL, but it's all there is.

Yakupov 2011–12 Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk KHL 13 10 4 14

Tarasenko 2010–11 HC Sibir KHL 42 9 10 19
Kuznetsov 2010–11 Traktor Chelyabinsk KHL 44 17 15 32
Click to expand...

Helped you there buddy. ;)
 
canucksPK

canucksPK

Registered User
May 9, 2011
832
1
Okanagan BC
Yakupov is the best prospect since John Tavares imo, not counting 2013 draft +.

He is electric on the ice, incredibly dynamic. He has a wicked shot, and elite hands. His physicality is very noticeable. His playmaking and vision are also incredible.

I think he is a perfect middle between Kane and Ovechkin. A somewhat weaker playmaker than Kane, but add that Ovechkin-lite sniper/physicality.. you have one wicked prospect.
 

Turrican*

Guest
canucksPK said:
Yakupov is the best prospect since John Tavares imo, not counting 2013 draft +.

He is electric on the ice, incredibly dynamic. He has a wicked shot, and elite hands. His physicality is very noticeable. His playmaking and vision are also incredible.

I think he is a perfect middle between Kane and Ovechkin. A somewhat weaker playmaker than Kane, but add that Ovechkin-lite sniper/physicality.. you have one wicked prospect.
Click to expand...

Pffft.
Shall I remind you of Alexandre Daigle and Rick Dipietro?
 
bucks_oil

bucks_oil

Registered User
Aug 25, 2005
8,492
4,792
President Van Buren said:
OMG Yakupov would have 9.5 goals instead of 10 goals if he played in 2004-2005!!
Click to expand...

Actually since these leagues differed by 0.72 gpg and given that 4.65 and 5.37 differ by a factor of 1.15, the KHL is scoring at a 15% higher rate! And there are exactly two teams that play each game, so that must mean that each team is contributing goals at a 7.5% higher rate... Don't you see? Yakupov therefore has actually only scored exactly 9.3 goals. So... please get the math right ;)

Applying this 7.5% equalization factor to Ovie's 13 goals, means he would have scored 13.98 goals in his 37 games. Or, at this point, 12 games into this season, he would have had... wait... 4.53 goals.... that can't be right!?!?

Anyway, like we said before... you can't compare this league to what we called it before, when it's scoring was 15% lower! It's like apples and oranges!

Oh yeah... and Ovechkin isn't trying this year... or he's regressed or something.

Oh right... sample size... sample size!
 
hototogisu

hototogisu

Poked the bear!!!!!
Jun 30, 2006
41,189
80
Montreal, QC
President Van Buren said:
Being a scout must be tough.

"I don't know who to pick! All these players are in different leagues...We can't just COMPARE them like that!"
Click to expand...

I wonder how many scouts draft players based on extrapolating one player's numbers in one league to another player's numbers in a different league. Even better if there's a space of 8 or so years between the numbers in question being compared.

Wait a minute - that's only HFboards that scouts like that! Scouts have the arduous task of actually watching the games! Silly me.

Of course, I'm sure all the people making comparisons to Yakupov's current performance with Ovechkin's RSL performance watched Oveckin keenly back in the Super League in 2004, and are no doubt qualified to continue to assert belligerently that it's "practically the same thing" and make judgements about Ovechkin's icetime and linemates as well as the teams he played for and against.

If not, that would just be embarassing.
 
canucksPK

canucksPK

Registered User
May 9, 2011
832
1
Okanagan BC
Kreator said:
Pffft.
Shall I remind you of Alexandre Daigle and Rick Dipietro?
Click to expand...

Shall I remind you of every other successful prospect?
I'm sorry but 18 years olds not getting huge minutes don't put up the kind of numbers Yakupov is on the KHL, it's ridiculous what he's doing.
 
YEGJuniorFan

YEGJuniorFan

Registered User
Dec 3, 2009
3,253
158
Edmonton
After years of let downs, broken hearts, tears, and too much whisky to deal with the pain of being an Oiler fan I prefer to temper my expectations and excitement. It is hard however to imagine Yakupov and Justin Schultz struggling in the NHL. I can see Yakupov scoring 40+ goals before he is 22.
 
Senor Catface

Senor Catface

Registered User
Jul 25, 2006
16,231
20,676
hototogisu said:
I wonder how many scouts draft players based on extrapolating one player's numbers in one league to another player's numbers in a different league. Even better if there's a space of 8 or so years between the numbers in question being compared.

Wait a minute - that's only HFboards that scouts like that! Scouts have the arduous task of actually watching the games! Silly me.

Of course, I'm sure all the people making comparisons to Yakupov's current performance with Ovechkin's RSL performance watched Oveckin keenly back in the Super League in 2004, and are no doubt qualified to continue to assert belligerently that it's "practically the same thing" and make judgements about Ovechkin's icetime and linemates as well as the teams he played for and against.

If not, that would just be embarassing.
Click to expand...

Almost as embarassing as taking that post so serious?
 

Hynh

Registered User
Jun 19, 2012
6,170
5,345
hototogisu said:
I wonder how many scouts draft players based on extrapolating one player's numbers in one league to another player's numbers in a different league. Even better if there's a space of 8 or so years between the numbers in question being compared.

Wait a minute - that's only HFboards that scouts like that! Scouts have the arduous task of actually watching the games! Silly me.

Of course, I'm sure all the people making comparisons to Yakupov's current performance with Ovechkin's RSL performance watched Oveckin keenly back in the Super League in 2004, and are no doubt qualified to continue to assert belligerently that it's "practically the same thing" and make judgements about Ovechkin's icetime and linemates as well as the teams he played for and against.

If not, that would just be embarassing.
Click to expand...

You keep repeating that the RSL is different league from the KHL. That is obviously true, due to records and such not transferring but can you explain how it affected the actual games? Both are considered the second best league in the world, play under international rules and have a primarily Russian player base. Other than scoring rates (which can be compensated for), do you have any hard facts that support your claims?
 
Senor Catface

Senor Catface

Registered User
Jul 25, 2006
16,231
20,676
s7ark said:
Agreed. Perhaps it may be like comparing clutch and grab NHL vs the post 1st lockout? I dunno I haven't watched a lot of RSL vs KHL hockey.

If people don't like comparing RSL to KHL I guess we can only compare him to other top rated young Russians post draft seasons in the KHL. Not really as useful because none of them have proven squat in the NHL, but it's all there is.

Yakupov 2011–12 Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk KHL 13 10 4 14

Tarasenko 2010–11 HC Sibir KHL 42 9 10 19
Kuznetsov 2010–11 Traktor Chelyabinsk KHL 44 17 15 32
Click to expand...

Hm, I don't think you can compare year to year like that. The league is different year to year. Different players....that just throws the stats off. And all those players play for different teams! That completely throws off comparing linemates...it's impossible, they play with different people! Heck, they even have different brains, so how can you REALLY compare them if they have different brains? They would do different things in pressure situations so you it's not fair to compare player to player.

There's only one solution. Comparing Nail Yakupov to....Nail Yakupov.

The good news is that he's tied with the best Nail Yakupov of all time.
 
BoldNewLettuce

BoldNewLettuce

Esquire
Dec 21, 2008
28,158
6,995
Canada
President Van Buren said:
Hm, I don't think you can compare year to year like that. The league is different year to year. Different players....that just throws the stats off. And all those players play for different teams! That completely throws off comparing linemates...it's impossible, they play with different people! Heck, they even have different brains, so how can you REALLY compare them if they have different brains? They would do different things in pressure situations so you it's not fair to compare player to player.

There's only one solution. Comparing Nail Yakupov to....Nail Yakupov.

The good news is that he's tied with the best Nail Yakupov of all time.
Click to expand...

Nope, the best Nail Yakupov is better.
 

MrGeno101

Registered User
Sep 11, 2008
1,206
244
Pavel Bure highl... ops i mean Nail Yakupov highlights from his first 13 games in KHL.

 

Dr Good Vibes

Registered User
Jan 18, 2010
2,441
877
Yakupov has a stacked offensive toolbox. Sniper, Playmaker and even gets the garbage.

50 GOAL ROOKIE SEASON.
 

Soundwave

Registered User
Mar 1, 2007
72,233
28,034
canucksPK said:
Yakupov is the best prospect since John Tavares imo, not counting 2013 draft +.

He is electric on the ice, incredibly dynamic. He has a wicked shot, and elite hands. His physicality is very noticeable. His playmaking and vision are also incredible.

I think he is a perfect middle between Kane and Ovechkin. A somewhat weaker playmaker than Kane, but add that Ovechkin-lite sniper/physicality.. you have one wicked prospect.
Click to expand...

Yeah I sort of see the Kane-Ovy hybrid in there too.

Going to be fun to watch if the NHL ever comes back (lol).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Ad

Latest posts

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad

Top Bottom