RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 6

[FlyguyOX]

Lmao tell me you don’t understand hockey. Takeaways are a pretty reliable indicator of engagement in the play off the puck, and there’s a reason that Selke winners are almost invariably among the league leaders in them - Bergeron, Datsyuk, Kopitar, Toews, etc all led the league in takeaways at different times, and in any given year, the best defensive players takeaway/giveaway ratio is virtually always well above 1.

Michkov’s amount of takeaways through 74 games is ridiculously low, even considering his limited minutes, and his takeaway/giveaway ratio is comically bad. That, along with his number of hits being abnormally low as well, show that his play, effort, and engagement defensively and off the puck is putrid, and virtually non-existent, which matches the eye test. He is absolutely useless without the puck on his stick, and the eye test and stats support this.

Fancy “advanced metrics” don’t tell the whole story because he’s played limited, sheltered minutes for the majority of the season. Hilarious how you don’t seem to grasp this concept

Yeah, you've never watched him.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Yeah, you've never watched him.

Yeah, you legitimately don’t understand fundamental aspects of hockey and are deflecting, as usual. Embarrassing

 

[FlyguyOX]

Yeah, you legitimately don’t understand fundamental aspects of hockey and are deflecting, as usual. Embarrassing

You're the dude using hits as a proxy for engagement and effort. See yourself out before you embarrass yourself more.

 

[ExReHabs]

Sure, pretend it’s just Habs fans being unreasonable Mr. Slaf-is-a-bust-and-the-worst-prospect-ever. It’s no surprise you’re bitter toward other Habs fans; you’ve repeatedly made a fool of yourself on the Habs boards with your ridiculous takes, and now you’re bitter .

Have you seen yourself in this thread?

Prospect fans wanna talk about Michkov and you’re shitting all over him. He’s not a Habs player, why do you even care?

Michkov is a rookie, in a new culture entirely, and he’s outproducing Slaf’s rookie season by what, 250%. On se calme, mon chum.

I never called Slaf a bust, he’s just an overrated player who deserves more criticism than he’s received but doesn’t because he was (a bad) 1st overall.

 

[Garbageyuk]

You're the dude using hits as a proxy for engagement and effort. See yourself out before you embarrass yourself more.

Sure, reduce it to that to deflect from the real issue of you not understanding the fundamentals of the sport you watch . Continue on with the blatant lies and denials while telling other people they’re embarrassing themselves

 

[Garbageyuk]

Have you seen yourself in this thread?

Prospect fans wanna talk about Michkov and you’re shitting all over him. He’s not a Habs player, why do you even care?

Michkov is a rookie, in a new culture entirely, and he’s outproducing Slaf’s rookie season by what, 250%. On se calme, mon chum.

I never called Slaf a bust, he’s just an overrated player who deserves more criticism than he’s received but doesn’t because he was (a bad) 1st overall.

Is that why you had to disappear for a while last year after your claims about him started to look more and more ridiculous?

And like I said, go ahead and pretend it’s only Habs fans doing whatever you say they’re doing in this thread, and that all these same Flyers/Michkov fans aren’t doing the same thing in multiple other Habs related threads.

 

[ExReHabs]

Is that why you had to disappear for a while last year after your claims about him started to look more and more ridiculous?

You’re wrong and this is irrelevant to the thread. Just try to be normal.

And like I said, go ahead and pretend it’s only Habs fans doing whatever you say they’re doing in this thread, and that all these same Flyers/Michkov fans aren’t doing the same thing in multiple other Habs related threads.

Okay — can you try to be normal?

If you don’t like Michkov just don’t talk about him — he’s not a Hab!!

 

[Garbageyuk]

You’re wrong and this is irrelevant to the thread. Just try to be normal.

Okay — can you try to be normal?

If you don’t like Michkov just don’t talk about him — he’s not a Hab!!

I’ve been talking about Michkov in here, and people are free to post opinions you personally don’t agree with - you seem to be unaware of that for some reason. Meanwhile, you’re in here doing nothing but trying to derail the discussion.

 

[NatusVincere]

Nathan Mackinnon 37 Hits 1.30 Hits/60 110 GvA 3.87 GvA/60 26 TkA 0.91 TkA/60

Matvei Michkov 28 Hits 1.38 Hits/60 74 GvA 3.65 GvA/60 14 TkA 0.69 TkA/60

Some uneducated dudes are saying Mackinnon is good, but they don’t understand the fundamentals of the sport they are watching.

 

[Uncle]

late calder push????

 

[ViD]

Michkov set records in almost every freaking tournament he played in, Russian and international. If Arizona/Utah wanted to trade him, price would have been much better, than Simashev for sure. And it's without saying that Michkov could have decided that Utah wasn't Arizona and agreed to play for it... He could be very useful for Utah right now, couldn't he? Just imagine him and Cooley together for many years to come...

No question about it. Both Utah and Montreal would’ve gotten more out of trading him than picking Simashev and Reinbacher. Awful picks.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

No question about it. Both Utah and Montreal would’ve gotten more out of trading him than picking Simashev and Reinbacher. Awful picks.

Anyone trying to shit on Michkov is just trolling, he is a sublime talent

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Montreal fans ask for analytics get the analytics then say it doesn’t count because of certain styles of goals lol. But secondary assists are the same as primary assists too. What? Can you people at least stay consistent ? So is Hutson now a secondary assist merchant too, you’re finally agreeing?

Hutson has 57 total assists. He has 24 first assists and 33 second assists. That hardly makes him a secondary assist merchant.

Even folks in the Flyers board are embarrassed by your false narratives and futile attempts to tear down an NHL rookie dman who will win the Calder because he's having a historic season.

Everyone on these boards accepts that Hutson will win the Calder, because he deserves the Calder. Michkov deserves credit for putting up a productive season. He's close to Celebrini for 2nd. But likely 3rd or 4th in voting when its all said and done. That's an impressive achievement. You should be proud!

 

[Cody Webster]

Michkov would have won the Clader if it wasn't for Torts

 

[koyvoo]

I have never once, nor will I ever use the ignore function.

I might choose to ignore people, as in - don’t pay them mind, but if you actually mute them, you’ll miss out on the lulz.

I showed these two threads to some coworkers yesterday, and they pretty much had a hard time believing that for the most part it was full grown adult males making the posts.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

they pretty much had a hard time believing that for the most part it was full grown adult males making the posts.

I hope your wife sees this

 

[koyvoo]

I hope your wife sees this

I agree with your sentiment, as I have daughters and they’ve taught me much. I work on a construction site. It’s was their prerogative.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Nathan Mackinnon 37 Hits 1.30 Hits/60 110 GvA 3.87 GvA/60 26 TkA 0.91 TkA/60

Matvei Michkov 28 Hits 1.38 Hits/60 74 GvA 3.65 GvA/60 14 TkA 0.69 TkA/60

Some uneducated dudes are saying Mackinnon is good, but they don’t understand the fundamentals of the sport they are watching.

Ignoring the fact that MacKinnon has TWICE as many points as Michkov, is a center so he has the puck a lot more, and plays some of the toughest minutes of any player in the entire league. You’re right; they’re so similar

 

[Garbageyuk]

Michkov would have won the Clader if it wasn't for Torts

I really don’t think there is any scenario where him winning the Clader was a possibility.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

So about that Matvei Michkov guy

 

[Cody Webster]

I really don’t think there is any scenario where him winning the Clader was a possibility.

Of course you don't, but that's ok

 

[NikolaTesla]

Though this is true Demidov also spent a lot of his time with World class KHL players like Kuznetsov where as Michkov played with an awful surrounding cast.

Not that much of his time because he played half the year on the 4th line or the 13rd forward and kuznetzov has been injured for a big portion of the year. When he did play with him though, he was averaging over 2 ppg.

 

[Kshahdoo]

We should ask Guiness World Records to add Michkov for the most posts about on HF prospect forum... maybe even on entire HF.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

We should ask Guiness World Records to add Michkov for the most posts about on HF prospect forum... maybe even on entire HF.

You haven’t seen the thread I created about this thread’s favorite subject, Lane Hutson, then!

 

[Kshahdoo]

You haven’t seen the thread I created about this thread’s favorite subject, Lane Hutson, then!

Yeah, but this is Part 6 about Michkov...