RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 5

[Garl]

You could literally say the same about Carlsson. Big body, never cheat defensively, good stick, good positioning and explosive offensively.

This guy is never going to put up 120 points but he’s going to win multiple Selke and at least a cup.

And you don’t see any resemblance with Barkov style of play?

Leo is great, but he needs to fix the faceoffs before Selke talk

 

[Garl]

Michkov >>> Demidov AINEC, jump up and down and flail your arms around.

Michkov is a more talented point scorer than Demidov, but Demidovs D+1 season so far is actually more impressive, so >>>>>>>> is unnecessary

 

[ReimanSum1908]

Michkov is a more talented point scorer than Demidov, but Demidovs D+1 season so far is actually more impressive, so >>>>>>>> is unnecessary

Nah, he's absolutely correct. Michkov is far and away the superior prospect and player; you're looking at the difference between superstar/Elite and second-liner.

 

[Garl]

Nah, he's absolutely correct. Michkov is far and away the superior prospect and player; you're looking at the difference between superstar/Elite and second-liner.

I can only compare their KHL results, and so far, Demidov had been better. Even though, yes Michkov is a more talented offensive player.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Kind of funny that Demidov plays „on the better team“ but Michkov had the “much” better usage. Sochi had 53 points and 168 GF. SKA this season is on pace for 286 GF and 99 points. Just for context, don’t shoot.

How much has that third line generated outside of demidov’s goals or primary assists? Not much. He also don’t see the ice on the PP.

A similar example would be to say Rasmus Kapari should have similar production to Michkov because he’s a third liner on a team that is on pace for 369 GF and 82-0 while Philly is on pace for 246 goals and 61 points

Nah, he's absolutely correct. Michkov is far and away the superior prospect and player; you're looking at the difference between superstar/Elite and second-liner.

Second line? Probably a 3rd liner. MAYBE a 2nd if all goes well

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1849884099349184762

How are we supposed to compare their NHL production exactly?


That I agree. Demidov is a bit superior to Michkov. Both are future superstars though

I repeat he’s still behind Michkov per game pace . You can try to extrapolate it to per minute to prop your guy up but that’s not how it works … you don’t automatically add x amount of pts to make up for the minutes discrepancy. Players actually need to achieve said totals . His season is impressive; totally agree but let’s stick to what each has actually done rather then if / might / projection etc ..

 

[Hanji]

How much has that third line generated outside of demidov’s goals or primary assists? Not much. He also don’t see the ice on the PP.

A similar example would be to say Rasmus Kapari should have similar production to Michkov because he’s a third liner on a team that is on pace for 369 GF and 82-0 while Philly is on pace for 246 goals and 61 points

I repeat he’s still behind Michkov per game pace . You can try to extrapolate it to per minute to prop your guy up but that’s not how it works … you don’t automatically add x amount of pts to make up for the minutes discrepancy. Players actually need to achieve said totals . His season is impressive; totally agree but let’s stick to what each has actually done rather then if / might / projection etc ..

Their usage is too different to make any direct comparison.

Michov was receiving solid ice time and PP usage on Sochi, but was likely facing the opponents' top players. Demidov is receiving restricted minutes and no PP time on SKA, but is likely facing mostly KHL depth guys.

 

[Garl]

I repeat he’s still behind Michkov per game pace . You can try to extrapolate it to per minute to prop your guy up but that’s not how it works … you don’t automatically add x amount of pts to make up for the minutes discrepancy. Players actually need to achieve said totals . His season is impressive; totally agree but let’s stick to what each has actually done rather then if / might / projection etc ..

Sochi is SKA farm team. There is no universe in which Michkovs last season was better than Demidov this year.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Their usage is too different to make any direct comparison.

Michov was receiving solid ice time and PP usage on Sochi, but was likely facing the opponents' top players. Demidov is receiving restricted minutes and no PP time on SKA, but is likely facing mostly KHL depth guys.

And a much higher scoring team / surrounding talent ^^. There should be an asterix regardless

Sochi is SKA farm team. There is no universe in which Michkovs last season was better than Demidov this year.

Exactly . So he had far less talent to work with . Glad we agree. Even still; behind Michkov and Kaprizov paces .

 

[Hanji]

Sochi is SKA farm team. There is no universe in which Michkovs last season was better than Demidov this year.

That only serves to bolster Michkov's case.

If Sochi is the B team, Michkov was playing with talent exponentially worse than what Demidov has. Plus Michkov, as a top Sochi guy, was facing the opposition's best players while Demidov, as a 3-4th line guy on SKA, isnt.

 

[SlobKnox]

Sochi is SKA farm team. There is no universe in which Michkovs last season was better than Demidov this year.

lol what is this take