RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 4

[Pavel Buchnevich]

2 strong TDS:
Trump Derangement Syndrome
Torts DS

Get Torts in some court in September.

Tony DS is another one. Tony DeAngelo to be exact.

Flyers fans might know a little about this because he also played for you guys, but there is a small segment of Rangers fans that boos this guy every time he plays against us. There’s no real reason behind it to. Strikes me as very odd and for no reason that he gets hated when he was a decent player for the team.

 

[JRichard]

Tony DS is another one. Tony DeAngelo to be exact.

Flyers fans might know a little about this because he also played for you guys, but there is a small segment of Rangers fans that boos this guy every time he plays against us. There’s no real reason behind it to. Strikes me as very odd and for no reason that he gets hated when he was a decent player for the team.

No reason. The dude fough with Georgiev after a loss and was then waived for it.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

No reason. The dude fough with Georgiev after a loss and was then waived for it.

But he didn’t really fight him. Georgiyev physically attacked him for making light of a tough situation for the team.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I hope he lights it up! love this prospect

 

[Boxscore]

Michkov compares more to Valeri Kharlamov.

Interesting. Based on build, size, and his ultra-slippery jitterbug approach to attacking... Michkov has always reminded me of another Soviet legend... Sergei Makarov. Kharlamov seemed more like Lafleur, Perreault, or Fedorov to me... a beautiful skater... flashy in a regal sense. Michkov has the stop/start thing going on with sublime edgework and tight dekes... he's also a goalscoring wizard like Makarov.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Interesting. Based on build, size, and his ultra-slippery jitterbug approach to attacking... Michkov has always reminded me of another Soviet legend... Sergei Makarov. Kharlamov seemed more like Lafleur, Perreault, or Fedorov to me... a beautiful skater... flashy in a regal sense. Michkov has the stop/start thing going on with sublime edgework and tight dekes... he's also a goalscoring wizard like Makarov.

If Michkov had Makarov's speed he'd have been an even better player than Makarov...

 

[Boxscore]

If Michkov had Makarov's speed he'd have been an even better player than Makarov...

He's 19. He will get faster and wiser navigating the NHL game. His maneuverability in tight is as dynamic as Makarov, who may have been among the all-time best in that regard. Of course he needs to do it against star NHL defensemen but I think he's going to be a megastar worth the price of admission.

 

[Kshahdoo]

What a bizarre interview.

Would be a little (a lot) concerning if his KHL team was trying to influence his lineup spot? That's...interesting.

Maybe Rotenberg knows something about hockey but he's the most clownish out of any clowns when it comes to interviews...

 

[kp61c]

But he didn’t really fight him. Georgiyev physically attacked him for making light of a tough situation for the team.

Geogiyev was right to push him after inappropriate remarks about Georgiyev's game. It's disgusting that you can't let it go and still defend him.

 

[Sasso09]

Steal as in telling teams he doesn't want to play for them? Sure.

Bitter beer face

 

[Sasso09]

small, selfish, self-entitled, not very fast, can't (won't) play defense. torts will hate him.

So are we just making shit up?

5'11" 183 isn't small
Selfish is MTL media making up rumors like a scorn ex
Self entitled see above
Very quick skater
Forechecks hard and hustles, just isn't great in his own end positionally

hilarious will be michkov playing in the nhl under torts next year. It'll be a disaster. Hope they will be open to sending him to the ahl. A year or two there will surely help.

hilarious will be michkov playing in the nhl under torts next year. It'll be a disaster. Hope they will be open to sending him to the ahl. A year or two there will surely help.

He'll be better than any Canadian forward day 1

 

[Sasso09]

Why not also the other 4 teams who passed on him? Why always just Montreal.

Because Montreal drafted Reinbacher..... the other 3 guy 1C potentials at least.

Reinbacher is a ceiling 2nd pair

As a general rule, teams always draft the best player available.

That's just not true

 

[Sasso09]

How does Demidov compare to him? Stylistically and potential. Thanks.

Not nearly as good tbh.

Complete opposite players. Demidov is 90% tools, 10% toolbox

Michkov has slightly less tools but generational IQ

Demidov needs this skills to thrive whereas michkov can thrive with vision/iq alone

 

[Sasso09]

the common answer is that Demidov is more flashy. Although, I think he just chooses to play that way more frequently. He probably is a better skater and that's about it. And Michkov is the epitome of efficiency and IQ. Their IQs are not really close

Michkov for sure is the better skater, Demidov is a little quicker, big difference. Demidov has a very ugly stride, he's just more explosive

Demidov def more flashy and "electrifying"

 

[C0DITH]

People keep thinking Torts is going to eat this kid alive, but they only base this on "Skill" and not what they players gives during games. It's been evident over the years what Torts hates, guys that give it 50% of the time. If he expects you to be a great player, but you only show up once in a while, he's making you ride the pine. Everything I've seen from Michkov, the guy is constantly on the go every shift. He isn't Morgan Frost.....

 

[EveryDay]

Because Montreal drafted Reinbacher..... the other 3 guy 1C potentials at least.

Reinbacher is a ceiling 2nd pair


That's just not true

If Reinbacher ceiling is 2nd pairing then Michkov ceiling is 2nd line winger.

 

[Guadana]

If Reinbacher ceiling is 2nd pairing then Michkov ceiling is 2nd line winger.

Michkov ceiling is generational talent, his middle potential is playmaking first liner and his floor is second line center. Reinbacher will be never generational defenseman. His ceiling is first line defenseman but not your potentail Norris candidate. Miles away from generational defenseman label.
Mtl drafted Reinbacher for needs, sometimes GMs doing things like that. Its not fault of Reinbacher to be less than some fans expecting. He is very good defenseman.

 

[Hinterland]

People keep thinking Torts is going to eat this kid alive, but they only base this on "Skill" and not what they players gives during games. It's been evident over the years what Torts hates, guys that give it 50% of the time. If he expects you to be a great player, but you only show up once in a while, he's making you ride the pine. Everything I've seen from Michkov, the guy is constantly on the go every shift. He isn't Morgan Frost.....

Michkov was repeatedly benched and healthy scratched over his KHL career, not just by Roman Rotenberg. You're kidding yourself if you think Torts is gonna be any more forgiving than KHL coaches.

 

[JRichard]

Michkov was repeatedly benched and healthy scratched over his KHL career, not just by Roman Rotenberg. You're kidding yourself if you think Torts is gonna be any more forgiving than KHL coaches.

Over his KHL « career »? Isnt he 19?

Must have started at 16. (Yeah he did)

 

[C0DITH]

Michkov was repeatedly benched and healthy scratched over his KHL career, not just by Roman Rotenberg. You're kidding yourself if you think Torts is gonna be any more forgiving than KHL coaches.

I have him being benched one time last year in Sochi after battling pneumonia. How many other times last year was he benched?

 

[JRichard]

Demidov has 6 KHL games: no point
Michkov has 90 KHL games: 66 pts

MM last play in jr MHL league in 21-22: 30 goals in 28 gp.

ID in MHL last yr: 23 goals in 30 gp.
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Not selling the farm to get ID when you have MM is my point.

 

[Hinterland]

I have him being benched one time last year in Sochi after battling pneumonia. How many other times last year was he benched?

He was perma scratched by Rotenberg until he was finally shipped out again. Then in Sochi he got benched and scratched, too.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1752728095520354399

Played horribly vs Kunlun, was on the ice and partly to blame for all 4 goals against in a game Sochi lost 2-4. Michkov was -3 after the first period. Then got scored on again in the 2nd period on his second shift I believe. Played 11mins until then but was benched for the rest of the game and healthy scratched for the next one vs Minsk.

 

[C0DITH]

He was perma scratched by Rotenberg until he was finally shipped out again. Then in Sochi he got benched and scratched, too.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1752728095520354399

Played horribly vs Kunlun, was on the ice and partly to blame for all 4 goals against in a game Sochi lost 2-4. Michkov was -3 after the first period. Then got scored on again in the 2nd period on his second shift I believe. Played 11mins until then but was benched for the rest of the game and healthy scratched for the next one vs Minsk.

Anything else outside of Rotenberg?

 

[SomeDude]

I’d like to see people do shift by shift examinations on all prospects to try to find flaws like some do with Michkov.

 

[Hockeypete49]

Habs screwed up last year. They should have grabbed Michkov then this year they could have selected a D man. Lets face it the 6 D men to go in the top 13 this year are better prospects than their selection last year. Clearly this was a botched move on their part.