RW Liam Greentree - Windsor Spitfires, OHL (2024, 26th, LAK)

[wetcoast]

Never know leternaeu height and skating is well known and could be next tage or brian boyle.

I think that he was too much of a project compared to Greentree who has the higher probability and possibility of floor and ceiling.

Or put another way Dobber Prospects uses fantasy upise and NHL certainty and for Greentree it's 8.5 and 9.0.

For Leternaeu it's 6.5 and 7.5 and while we can argue about the numbers there is one clear better prospect here right now and projection as well.

Of course there are always exceptions to these things but still I stand by my point Boston's gamble will most likely end up as LA's gain here.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Really like this kid’s game. Still not sure if trading away this pick + a 2nd to move up to grab Hage was the right decision, but time will tell. I think really wanting a potential 2C prospect is what might have pushed the scale of Hage over Greentree for the Habs but I hope they both flourish.

Could go either way.

You never know what will happen when turning pro. Hage is playing with older guys.

 

[The don godfather]

I think that he was too much of a project compared to Greentree who has the higher probability and possibility of floor and ceiling.

Or put another way Dobber Prospects uses fantasy upise and NHL certainty and for Greentree it's 8.5 and 9.0.

For Leternaeu it's 6.5 and 7.5 and while we can argue about the numbers there is one clear better prospect here right now and projection as well.

Of course there are always exceptions to these things but still I stand by my point Boston's gamble will most likely end up as LA's gain here.

I've seen many players with explosive ohl ahl numbers and dissapear in the nhl. Nhl is a different world. Will see who is the better prospect. Leternaeu size strength speed is truly intriguing.

 

[wetcoast]

I've seen many players with explosive ohl ahl numbers and dissapear in the nhl. Nhl is a different world. Will see who is the better prospect. Leternaeu size strength speed is truly intriguing.

Greentree isn't some small perimeter junior scoring star and simply is the much better prospect at this point and probably forever.

 

[WADEugottaBELAKthat]

I've seen many players with explosive ohl ahl numbers and dissapear in the nhl. Nhl is a different world. Will see who is the better prospect. Leternaeu size strength speed is truly intriguing.

I've seen many players with explosive ohl ahl numbers and dissapear in the nhl. Nhl is a different world. Will see who is the better prospect. Leternaeu size strength speed is truly intriguing.

I’ve seen even more players with completely pedestrian numbers in college (3 points all season for Leternaeu!) not make a dent in the NHL. Sorry pal, don’t want to hate on the guy, but Leterneau is projecting to be a puckbag compared to Greentree.

 

[The don godfather]

I’ve seen even more players with completely pedestrian numbers in college (3 points all season for Leternaeu!) not make a dent in the NHL. Sorry pal, don’t want to hate on the guy, but Leterneau is projecting to be a puckbag compared to Greentree.

Brazzeau and senyshyn had 50 plus goals in the ohl look at them now. All nonsense. Let's see when they come into nhl before we declare the winner. One thing leternaeu has is size reach and speed that is a huge advantage playing in a big mans game. I've said this before I keep hes gonna have a brian boyle type of career and that would be a huge homerun for the bruins.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Brazzeau and senyshyn had 50 plus goals in the ohl look at them now. All nonsense. Let's see when they come into nhl before we declare the winner. One thing leternaeu has is size reach and speed that is a huge advantage playing in a big mans game. I've said this before I keep hes gonna have a brian boyle type of career and that would be a huge homerun for the bruins.

Senyshyn DY: 66 GP, 45 PTS

Brazeau DY: 65 GP, 13 PTS

Greentree DY; 64 GP, 90 PTS


Greentree was always highly touted, ranked anywhere from 15-31 prior to the 2024 Draft. He's not comparable to Brazeau or Senyshyn lmao

 

[WADEugottaBELAKthat]

Brazzeau and senyshyn had 50 plus goals in the ohl look at them now. All nonsense. Let's see when they come into nhl before we declare the winner. One thing leternaeu has is size reach and speed that is a huge advantage playing in a big mans game. I've said this before I keep hes gonna have a brian boyle type of career and that would be a huge homerun for the bruins.

Let’s stick to facts 1: Dean Letourneau didn’t score a goal this year…..

Let’s stick to facts 2: Senyshun never had 50 goals in the OHL.

Terrible takes

 

[The don godfather]

Let’s stick to facts 1: Dean Letourneau didn’t score a goal this year…..

Let’s stick to facts 2: Senyshun never had 50 goals in the OHL.

Terrible takes

Sorry back to plus 40 goals season. You never know leternaeu with his measly 3 points in college becomes a stud in the NHL. Hes too young to write off this is all nonsense until we see these players reach NHL level. Calling one player a stud to a bust is all rubbish talk here.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Sorry back to plus 40 goals season. You never know leternaeu with his measly 3 points in college becomes a stud in the NHL. Hes too young to write off this is all nonsense until we see these players reach NHL level. Calling one player a stud to a bust is all rubbish talk here.

Dude.

One person with a small comment about a Boston prospect and you get crazy for no reason and ironically you come up with a prospect you could not let go at the time. I am missing the comment that you have seen many players with explosive ohl numbers that dissapear in the NHL.

Seny popped 40 plus goals twice in ohl greyhounds. There has to be something there. I'm surprised he hasn't made the team honestly. Always like Cole skated like the wind and popped over 30. Seny can still turn like him.. When Donny picked him and I saw his highlights I said he looks like an Eric Cole to me.

Looks more like a Lauri Tukonen to me.

 

[robertmac43]

Even with the numbers and the 5 goal games in the playoffs, I'm really not sold on this guy.

Doesn't impact the game at 5 on 5 in the ways I'd want a 26 OA pick to.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Brazzeau and senyshyn had 50 plus goals in the ohl look at them now. All nonsense. Let's see when they come into nhl before we declare the winner. One thing leternaeu has is size reach and speed that is a huge advantage playing in a big mans game. I've said this before I keep hes gonna have a brian boyle type of career and that would be a huge homerun for the bruins.

I liked Boyle but he's not a huge homeowner in the mid 20s lol. Boston knows what a huge homerun in the mid 20s looks like, he's the guy putting up 100 points with no talent around him.

Letourneau is an interesting project, but was rushed to the NCAA and had a terrible year. Hopefully he turns it around, but having a Brian Boyle career is not a huge homerun in the mid 20s.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Getting a quick taste of the pros!

 

[King'sPawn]

OHL names Spitfires' Greentree winner of Mickey Renaud Captain's Trophy

Liam Greentree wasn’t just part of the turnaround, he led the way.

windsorstar.com

Did the OHL consult HF's experts before honoring him?

 

[LeProspector]

OHL names Spitfires' Greentree winner of Mickey Renaud Captain's Trophy

Liam Greentree wasn’t just part of the turnaround, he led the way.

windsorstar.com

Did the OHL consult HF's experts before honoring him?

He’s a great captain, who said otherwise? It’s like the NHL’s Mark Messier award. He’s very deserving.

 

[King'sPawn]

He’s a great captain, who said otherwise? It’s like the NHL’s Mark Messier award. He’s very deserving.

You literally said he's not a difference maker. And that he doesn't drive the play.

Hard to believe such an inept player could be the best captain in the league.

 

[rocketdan9]

If his skating continues to improve, may end up as one of the steals of the 2024 draft.

 

[The don godfather]

If his skating continues to improve, may end up as one of the steals of the 2024 draft.

Could end up as another Sweeney special - next pick draft miss.

Too early dean leternaeu might explode next year I like his speed size and strength. Let's see.

 

[rocketdan9]

Too early dean leternaeu might explode next year I like his speed size and strength. Let's see.

No doubt. It will take a little longer for Letourneau to "get there". I think there are good signs.

But I also like Greentree. Nice potential.

 

[LeProspector]

You literally said he's not a difference maker. And that he doesn't drive the play.

Hard to believe such an inept player could be the best captain in the league.

bring me the recipes where I said he isn’t a difference maker at the OHL level, and that he doesn’t drive play in the OHL. Because I certainly didn’t say that.

I just think your reading comprehension is terrible and miss context throughout what you have hate read from me in this thread.

I think he’s an excellent prospect, and should have went top-15 at the draft, Vilardi is a good comp IMO.

I don’t think he would have been a difference maker at the world juniors though, not fast enough, not physical enough, not enough of a play driver to do that as an 18 year old. Ilya Protas is the play driver and best player on the Spitfires this year, though.

Misa/Yakemchuk/Parekh!!!/Cristall would have been play drivers for that WJC team and maybe guys that could have lead the team to more success. Not Greentree.

You read the bolded as “Greentree isn’t a playdriver and isn’t a difference maker” and completely ignored that I was talking about how I thought he wouldn’t have been either, as an 18 year old at the World Juniors. LOL

I think Greentree is a fantastic prospect, and is going to be a great complementary winger in the NHL that is able to score a ton of goals in tight due to his fantastic anticipation and hands. Wouldn’t surprise me to see a Zach Hyman impact.

But I also don’t think he was the best player on the Spitfires this year (That was Washington Capitals prospect and 3rd round pick Ilya Protas) and I don’t think if he made the world junior team this year it would have made any difference to the result of the team.

I can like a player, but also be realistic with what I think about them. So yeah, you don’t know how to f***ing read lol

 

[The don godfather]

No doubt. It will take a little longer for Letourneau to "get there". I think there are good signs.

But I also like Greentree. Nice potential.

I've said this before if leternaeu turns into a Brian boyle type we hit a homerun. That guy was a solid 3rd line center very competitive and put up points with his size and excellent on D side.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

I thought the plan with Letourneau was that Boston College was going to bring him along slowly because he came from a prep school league with really no other competition. The skills are there, but his development is going to be a process. He's got the size, he's got the skating, but he's a project.

As for Greentree, he's a beauty of a player. Los Angeles got a good one in him. Once again, a bigger player so he's going to need time to adjust, but there's so much to like. I used to go to games in Owen Sound and Guelph and watching Windsor was a treat. He's such a good player. The one thing you didn't hear about is how well his positioning is. He always knows where to be on the ice. He's similar to Michal Handzus in that sense. Handzus was also one of those guys that just knew where to be at all times. You can't teach that. Incredibly smart player. I like players that. Yes, he's got physical skills, but the mental skill is impeccable.

 

[King'sPawn]

I can like a player, but also be realistic with what I think about them. So yeah, you don’t know how to f***ing read lol

bring me the recipes where I said he isn’t a difference maker at the OHL level, and that he doesn’t drive play in the OHL. Because I certainly didn’t say that.

You literally said "Ilya Protas is the play driver and best player on the Spitfires this year, though."

So it sounds like you "don't know how to f***ing write lol"

 

[LeProspector]

You literally said "Ilya Protas is the play driver and best player on the Spitfires this year, though."

So it sounds like you "don't know how to f***ing write lol"

like I said, Protas was the better player and drove the play more this year. Thats not a slight to Greentree LMAO.

You’re just a fragile ego Kings fan who can’t comprehend how good of a player the 3rd round pick Ilya Protas was. Just because Protas was fantastic doesn’t mean Greentree was bad.

I’ll put it this way: Windsor with Greentree as the primary play driver: *Finished 2nd last in the OHL*

Windsor with Protas in the lineup: *2nd in conference*

 

[King'sPawn]

like I said, Protas was the better player and drove the play more this year. Thats not a slight to Greentree LMAO.

You’re just a fragile ego Kings fan who can’t comprehend how good of a player the 3rd round pick Ilya Protas was. Just because Protas was fantastic doesn’t mean Greentree was bad.

I’ll put it this way: Windsor with Greentree as the primary play driver: *Finished 2nd last in the OHL*

Windsor with Protas in the lineup: *2nd in conference*

In the end, what either you or I say about how he turns out means nothing, so your second-rate assessment of me having a fragile ego is about as quality as your assertion that Greentree wasn't a play-driver. Which is something you actually said. And both statements are as stupidly simple as they're wrong.

I agree Protas was a great pick, and he was a big factor on Windsor's improvement.

Both Greentree and Protas brought a lot of talent and leadership, and at varying times one or the other would drive the play. I also watch the games.

But you comparing Greentree's draft year when he was by himself, and using Protas' D+1 WITH Greentree is silly and stupid.

I'd be fine with having this discussion, but since your go-to response of any Kings fans disagreeing with you is to diminish them, call them fragile, ego-driven, homers, etc... that just tells me you're not here to talk. You're here to preach and pretend you're superior. Maybe someone else will entertain you, but I'm done.