Limekiller
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Labanc was just named OHL Player of the Week again. 4th time this season. http://www.barriecolts.com/article/...energy-ohl-player-of-the-week-for-fourth-time
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Brown didn't put his numbers up as an overager. What he did last year was impressive but its a surprise he wasn't deemed ready for pro hockey this season. Very few guys who play an overage OHL season make it.
Neither did Kevin. He wasn't an overager* last year...
Well it's an overage season with an asterisk. Also, he wasn't ready for pro hockey last year. Joseph Blandisi made it.
How is there an asterisk? Was he not born before January 1st 1996? And I was referring to this years numbers, Brown's 19 year old numbers were better? And Blandisi is less than 20 games in, Clarkson is probably the best player with an OA year.
After the draft cutoff -> December 31st would only give him 2 years after the draft. Only spent 1/3 of all 3 possible years before his draft in the OHL. Only spent three years in the league and didn't take advantage of the extra year before his draft (that's offered to him because he has an early birthdate for the 2014 draft). Not a true pure-breed overager as intended by the league.
I wasn't aware this was a Connor Brown thread.
Yeah, he is. He got the benefit of being able to play two full USHL years due to his birth year in the USNDP, its not like he was floating around in lower level jr leagues. So your actually trying to say anyone born after the mid September draft cutoff date isn't an overager in their 20 year old season? This is far from being that different from most overagers situations, he's older than 95% of the OHL and has 4 prior years of experience playing high level jr hockey. I don't see how this is much different than guys like Jack Hidi, and Berisha. Very few overagers play a full 16 year old year in anything as close to competitive as the USNDP schedule. You may be excited for him (and he could make it), but to say he's not an overager is deluded.
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If you take a closer look, most Sharks fans are, at best, cautiously optimistic and Joakim's got a couple posts in here that would indicate as such.
You're going to have to cite that. AFAIK the NTDP doesn't have any minimum age requirements.
No. No I'm not. Stop it with the strawman.
I never said he wasn't an overager by the OHL's rules, he's just not a purebred one.
You have to be 16 to play in the USHL, therefore the U17 USNDP doesn't put 15 year olds on the team, so in-effect there is a minimum age requirement. And just because he entered the OHL late doesn't make him whatever you want to term a Purebred overager, alot of overagers don't play a full 16 year old OHL season, many actually play in either jr A or some like Jack Hidi played a mix of jr A, and college. Just look at many of the current overagers and a significant portion did not play an OHL game til they were 17 or older. And since you want my info cited here.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/2007-02-05-ushl-cover_x.htm
And, its not a strawman, you cited his late birthday as part of your reasoning on why he's not a "true overager."
EDIT: May be mistaken on USHL rules but I thought they were changed after Deangelo, and was part of the reason Chychrun came to the GTHL at 15.
EDIT 2: Found the article that mentions the USHL rule changes
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/juniorh...ls-no-1-overall-pick?urn=juniorhockey,wp31726
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Fine, I'll rephrase you have to be 16 by January 1st of your first season. No one in recent memory has been on the USNDP team a year above them and keep on finding tiny things to try to claim he's not a true overager, which is a joke. He has more high level experience than practically everyone in the league. Someone like Marchmant, or Nathan Todd, have way less experience, and people view them as overagers, which they are. To think that only entering the OHL at 18 doesn't make him a true overager is delusional.
Haha, no need to get upset. Differing viewpoints are not a bad thing. He's not a purebred overager, I'm not sure how else I can put it. If you don't understand what I'm trying to get at that's fine.
That is a funny way of twisting my words. If I had used a comma in my original statement then you would have ground here in the "true overager", but I did not.
I wonder when we're actually going to talk about the prospect in question? Who knew an asterisk could rile someone up so much.
Yeah, lets drop it. What he's doing is impressive,but I'm surprised he's still in the O after last year, you would think he is at least ECHL ready. If he turns out a success, him and Blandisi, may eliminate that OA stigma. Why did the Sharks send him back down? Has he signed his ELC, a quick google search turns nothing up.
Hasn't signed yet. Sharks are tight with money, and him playing in the ECHL would take a year off of his ELC if they did sign him.
Yep. All indications are that he was willing to sign last summer and wanted to play with the Barracuda. He was "disappointed" that he didn't get the opportunity.
I don't think there's animosity there tbh.
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I would be pretty shocked if the Sharks don't get him signed, and probably for more than he could have gotten last year, given how he's dominating the league so far. So, I think getting more money in return for waiting goes a long way to assuage any "disappointment", don't you?
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ok so why only 2 pages on this guy?..Completely tearing up the OHL this year and leading the league. Back to back 100+ seasons and is even ahead of the London Knights trio. I realize hes played more games than them, but still leading the league and will finish with 120+ points.
Is there some sort of knock on him? or is it just cause hes drafted to a non loudly spoken fan base on HFBOARDS San Jose Sharks? Cause id assume if he was apart of certain teams, his prospect page would be at like Kevin Labanc III or IV type level
Whats the deal guys???.. intrigued by this situation!!
Is there some sort of knock on him? or is it just cause hes drafted to a non loudly spoken fan base on HFBOARDS San Jose Sharks? Cause id assume if he was apart of certain teams, his prospect page would be at like Kevin Labanc III or IV type level
Whats the deal guys???.. intrigued by this situation!!
Guys putting up big numbers as overagers never really get talked about. He didn't breakout offensively til 19 putting up only 35 points in his 18 year old year.
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He plays a game that may not translate to pros. Lots of dekeing in all three zones.
It's funny. He's only two months older than dvorak and has similar career stat
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Ya it's funny that him and Dvorak both have similar stats and both have put up great numbers this year and last year yet cause Labanc is considered an overager, it's a bit of a knock against him... even though he is only 2 months older than dvorak.
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Also he has that unfortunate birth date which means that he didn't play in any of WJCs which obviously doesn't help with creating hype.
We talk about him a lot on HFSharks. do0glas basically summed up our thoughts. It's cautious optimism. We've been tricked before with high scoring junior players.
Another thing that's played apart in it is that he's been pretty bad in our prospect scrimmages/prospect preseason games. For many of us, while we stream his regular season games, these are our only live viewings, and it leaves a sour taste in our mouths.
Also he's reportedly been signed, but nothing's official. We're excited but cautious in getting our hopes up.
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