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RW Jesse Puljujärvi - Karpat, FEL (2016 Draft)

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ponder said:
More than a little early to be making claims like that, pretty easy to imagine Matthews, Chychrun and someone else (Tkachuk, Jones, Krys, Sokolov, etc.) going ahead of him. He seems like a popular 3rd overall choice at the moment, but calling him a lock to go top 3 before the season even starts is going way too far.
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You are absolutely right. For a European prospect to be considered lock to go top 3 he has to light up the league he's playing and JP hasn't done that yet. If he doesn't produce the way he's expected he could drop to top 10 or even top 15. In two months we know a lot more and still it's too early even then. I know offseason is boring and it's fun to speculate but we'll just have to wait and see. I will be among the first to report his performance when the season starts and I might even try to provide some videos for you guys.
 
VLU5 said:
You are absolutely right. For a European prospect to be considered lock to go top 3 he has to light up the league he's playing and JP hasn't done that yet. If he doesn't produce the way he's expected he could drop to top 10 or even top 15. In two months we know a lot more and still it's too early even then. I know offseason is boring and it's fun to speculate but we'll just have to wait and see. I will be among the first to report his performance when the season starts and I might even try to provide some videos for you guys.
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That'd be awesome :)
 
VLU5 said:
You are absolutely right. For a European prospect to be considered lock to go top 3 he has to light up the league he's playing and JP hasn't done that yet. If he doesn't produce the way he's expected he could drop to top 10 or even top 15. In two months we know a lot more and still it's too early even then. I know offseason is boring and it's fun to speculate but we'll just have to wait and see. I will be among the first to report his performance when the season starts and I might even try to provide some videos for you guys.
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Yep, Barkov was 0.9PPG in a lock-out season, and he still was close to being outside the top three (quite often being referred to as fighting Drouin for 3rd spot). As both Barkov and Puljujarvi are good in defensive aspects of the game, if Puljujarvi gets over 0.8PPG I see him as top 3 in this years draft as it doesn't seem like 2013 just yet, 0.6-0.8PPG I see him as top 5. 0.3-0.6 top 10 less than 0.3PPG top 20 and I don't see him outside the top twenty even if he doesn't register a point and plays his season in juniors.

As Puljujarvi had over 0.5PPG (0.58PPG if you remove the two games he missed) in limited minutes already last season, I'd be willing to bet he is at 0.7-0.9PPG pace next season with more minutes. If that happens, in my mind he is a lock for top 5.

And before anyone jumps on my post for being too much on point production I have to emphasize that him being top 20 or top 10 might still be him being a 3rd OA pick. Just that I could see him dropping that far.

For example Mikko Koivu only had 1 point in 21 games in FEL during his draft year and still got picked 6th OA. Puljujarvi is bigger, faster and better with the puck. And has better defensive awareness than Koivu had at that age.
 
Hagged said:
For example Mikko Koivu only had 1 point in 21 games in FEL during his draft year and still got picked 6th OA. Puljujarvi is bigger, faster and better with the puck. And has better defensive awareness than Koivu had at that age.
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Just curious, how many SM-Liiga games did you watch from Mikko Koivu back then?
 
I'm a little annoyed at Jalonen's recent comments regarding Puljujärvi, Matthews and Laine in the Finnish media. Seems like he's criticizing him a bit unjustly.
 
FinnHockeyFan said:
Yeah Pulju is TOP3 pick for sure, but how we know mapleleafs is picking Puljujärvi in top3.
Personally i wouldn't be surprised if, they'll take Chychrun instead of Puljujärvi.

Toronto needs more defence than wingers, that's why i think Chychrun is going to Toronto.
And Jesse probably for, Carolina Hurricanes or New Jersey Devils.
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True, we need D more than wingers, but Chychrun could be gone before we pick (at this point looking like he'd go #2). I think we'd take Pulju at #3 in a heartbeat though. Gotta admit he'd look great next to Marner or Nylander.

I guess you think 1st overall is a foregone conclusion for Toronto ;)
 
HockeyHistorian said:
I'm a little annoyed at Jalonen's recent comments regarding Puljujärvi, Matthews and Laine in the Finnish media. Seems like he's criticizing him a bit unjustly.
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Agreed. I also think that Pulju hasn't gotten the fairest treatment from his coaching staff this past year. Last season sitting on a bench or sent back and forth between three teams. Then on the international team he's put to the same line with Laine and he's been stuck with him since U18 WC and now gets criticized for his performance. Honestly, I watched JP very closely last year and saw him with different players but I've never seen a player so unfit for him as Laine. Not a shot against Laine since he didn't make the lineup decision.
 
Jack DiBiase said:
Just curious, how many SM-Liiga games did you watch from Mikko Koivu back then?
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5. I was 16 at the time and lived next to the arena. But I admit it's a long time ago. But in my eyes he wasn't a Barkov defensively and he wasn't Puljujarvi offensively (though Koivu's 30 point season two seasons after draft was better in all aspects than Puljujarvis last)
 
Stephen said:
Is prime Jagr kind of an apt stylistic comparison?
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IMO, no.

He's a much faster skater than Jagr and he doesnt have the playmaking or the puck protection (who does?) that Jagr did.

I always liked Iginla as a comparable but have kind of been scared to say it due to the unrealistic expectations that would come with it.
 
Love said:
IMO, no.

He's a much faster skater than Jagr and he doesnt have the playmaking or the puck protection (who does?) that Jagr did.

I always liked Iginla as a comparable but have kind of been scared to say it due to the unrealistic expectations that would come with it.
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But comparing him to Jagr in his prime doesn't lead to unrealistic expectations? :D Just kidding. ;)

Personally I really can't think of a comparable although some Russian snipers come to mind.
 
Hagged said:
5. I was 16 at the time and lived next to the arena. But I admit it's a long time ago. But in my eyes he wasn't a Barkov defensively and he wasn't Puljujarvi offensively (though Koivu's 30 point season two seasons after draft was better in all aspects than Puljujarvis last)
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Fair enough. However I completely disagree Pulju having better defensive awareness than Mikko Koivu had on his draft year. Mikko was used a lot on the PK unit with Kiviharju and displayed exceptional defensive play for someone so young. It was the offensive game that was always the question for Mikko.
 
Sundinisagod said:
True, we need D more than wingers, but Chychrun could be gone before we pick (at this point looking like he'd go #2). I think we'd take Pulju at #3 in a heartbeat though. Gotta admit he'd look great next to Marner or Nylander.

I guess you think 1st overall is a foregone conclusion for Toronto ;)
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Personally i wouldn't be surprised, if Toronto picks Puljujarvi in 3rd overall.
What comes 1st overall pick, if Toronto really gets it that's only good

Would be great to see euro scoring line in Toronto.
What you like this combination

Kapanen Nylander Puljujarvi.?
 
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FinnHockeyFan said:
Personally i wouldn't be surprised, if Toronto picks Puljujarvi in 3rd overall.
What comes 1st overall pick, if Toronto really gets it that's only good

Would be great to see euro scoring line in Toronto.
What you like this combination

Kapanen Nylander Puljujarvi.?
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I'd rather not switch Kapanen to LW, and he projects as more of a 2nd liner anyways. I think he'd slot in perfectly behind Puljujarvi as our 2rw. fwiw I am semi obsessed with handedness.

JVR - Marner - Puljujarvi
Johnson - Nylander - Kapanen

That would be a great second line. Not big but would get the easier matchups and would provide a lot of offense imho. Enough Euro content in that top 6 to give Don Cherry a stroke.
 
Some leafs fans will probably rip me apart but he reminds me of Sundin more than anyone. Not saying he'll be as good as 13, but the way he plays is very similar.
 
Playing with Niemi and Huml as previously predicted. Practice game vs Jukurit starts 15.00. I don't think there is any streams though.

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JJTT said:
Playing with Niemi and Huml as previously predicted. Practice game vs Jukurit starts 15.00. I don't think there is any streams though.

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Makes me happy that he is being given a chance to succeed. Hopefully he'll produce right from the start and plays the whole season in the top 6 and PP.
 

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