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RW Jesse Puljujärvi - Karpat, FEL (2016 Draft)

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VLU5 said:
I can see why some might be concerned by his production but we have to simply just wait for the coming season to see what happens. None of his u20 or u18 games will matter if he lights up the FEL. Although I can totally seem him drop on rankings if he doesn't have stellar performance in Finland and WJC. Him struggling combined with being european and a winger could make him fall out of top5.

I'm really expecting big things from Marjamäki (the coach of Kärpät) this year. How I see it JP will be his crown jewel if he succeeds or something that will haunt him for the rest of his career of he fails. I'm still not convinced Marjamäki is best for developing 17yo world class talent.
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I know it would be cool to see, Puljujärvi into some CHL team and get developed there.
But problem is that Puljujärvi is undrafted player in CHL.

Also he's undrafted in USHL so Jesse's chances to come play junior hockey in north america are minimal.
Lauri Marjamäki is one rising coach prospects in Finland, and he's strong candidate to be next head coach of Team Finland's men's national team.
( Marjamäki is now assistant coach in Finland's men's national team.)

Lauri Marjamäki started his coaching career when he was 15-17 yrs old.
So he's been hockey coach at least last 20 yrs so i'm sure, he knows better than you how to develop young players.
 
FinnHockeyFan said:
i'm sure, he knows better than you how to develop young players.
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Lol no question about that. Never claimed otherwise :) I just think that a young player sometimes needs his coach to be a father-like character to guide him. That's a quality that Marjamäki lacks but maybe that's just an age thing.

As a fan of Kärpät I love Marjamäki because he knows how to win but as a fan of Jesse I'm still not convinced. I doubt Marjamäki will look the other way if Jesse struggles in first 10 games.
 
i want him on the leafs so bad, kid is going to be a superstar. European players don't get as much hype as north american, but imo he's a generational talent.
 
This guy is going to be a generational talent, I don't care what people think. He has every tool in the planet to be a megastar.
 
Lucbourdon said:
This guy is going to be a generational talent, I don't care what people think. He has every tool in the planet to be a megastar.
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His potential truly is through the roof.

It's not even just the fact that he's so big, can skate so well, can shoot like a top NHLer, can pass, dangle, etc...

It's the fact that you take those traits and apply it to his work ethic and insatiable desire to score, score, and score some more. He has that Kobe Bryant in his prime mentality of, "I'm just gonna ****ing score and nobody is going to stop me. Then I'm gonna do it again and again."
 
Love said:
His potential truly is through the roof.

It's not even just the fact that he's so big, can skate so well, can shoot like a top NHLer, can pass, dangle, etc...

It's the fact that you take those traits and apply it to his work ethic and insatiable desire to score, score, and score some more. He has that Kobe Bryant in his prime mentality of, "I'm just gonna ****ing score and nobody is going to stop me. Then I'm gonna do it again and again."
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Puljujärvi has all tools to be big name in NHL that's for sure.
I've think that why Puljujärvi struggles a bit with his scoring abilities.

Puljujärvi is played a lot with Sebastian Aho ,( Finnish Sebastian Aho) they have good chemistry.
They knows each others and they'll have long history to playing together, in National teams and Oulun Karpat juniors.

Patrik Laine who's Puljujärvi's linemate right now, is excellent goal scorer.
And he's always performed, better statistically in national teams.

Also Laine hogging puck too much, Laine can be really selfish and he tries to be a hero sometimes.
And that's not good for Jesse who's also good scorer.

Based on that what i've told Finland's U20 teams head coach Jukka Jalonen, should put Jesse same line with Sebastian Aho.
That would help Jesse to score more.

We can't know yet how well Puljujärvi will shine, in Helsinki when world juniors starts.
But if he scores there that Kobe Bryant mentality what you mentioned, his draft stocks could rise really high.
And what's better chance for Jesse to prove his scoring skills, than to be a leading scorer in world juniors.
 
teravaineSAROS said:
Can somebody explain to me why they always have to place Laine and Puljujärvi on the same line?
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They undoubtedly have produced well together and they also seem to have good personal chemistry. It would seem that Laine benefits by having Puljujärvi on the same line as him, as the Puljujärvi's quickness and offensive prowess take a lot of the heat off from him. However, this has the effect of reducing Puljujärvi more or less to a grinding and playmaking role.

Puljujärvi does all this very well mind you, but one wonders if his offensive production is being stymied in the process. However, in the coach's view, what matters in these things is the overall production of the team and I guess they are under the impression that team Finland is better when Puljujärvi is creating more space for Laine whose elite scoring prowess is then better utilized. It would be intriguing to see them on different lines in the remaining games at Lake Placid.

For example, they could play Laine with Rantanen who is a natural playmaker and can move his feet as well:

Aho - Saarela/Nättinen - Puljujärvi
Laine - Nättinen/Saarela - Rantanen
 
Puljujärvi & Laine on a same line:

U20 Puljujärvi 4gp, 3+4 = 7
U20 Laine 4gp, 4+3 = 7
U18 Puljujärvi 7gp, 2+5 = 7
U18 Laine 7gp, 8+3 = 11

Personal totals:
Puljujärvi 11gp, 5+9 = 14
Laine 11gp, 12+6 = 18

Combined totals:
11gp, 17+15 = 32

As you can see, they have combined for 17 goals in 11 games. From the coach's viewpoint there seems to be little reason in breaking them up.
 
HockeyHistorian said:
Personal totals:
Puljujärvi 11gp, 5+9 = 14
Laine 11gp, 12+6 = 18
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With numbers like these there's no reason for alarm. Laine will draw a lot of defender attention which leaves space for Pulju as well. So what if he could squeeze in a few more points if a line was built around him finishing? First of all, there's no guarantee that it will work and it's unknown how everything needs to be arranged for that to happen and for the rest of the lines to have good chemistry. Second problem is that even if some other combination was found, odds are that the combined production of the new line would still fall below what we have now. So lets just sit tight and see how things progress, all expectations have been reached so far.

The coming year will show if Pulju is able to score consistently in Finland, then it's clear that he's versatile in how he can also play a playmaker when paired a dedicated sniper and go for the finish himself in other situations. That'd raise his draft stock even more in my opinion.
 
Risingwind said:
With numbers like these there's no reason for alarm. Laine will draw a lot of defender attention which leaves space for Pulju as well. So what if he could squeeze in a few more points if a line was built around him finishing? First of all, there's no guarantee that it will work and it's unknown how everything needs to be arranged for that to happen and for the rest of the lines to have good chemistry. Second problem is that even if some other combination was found, odds are that the combined production of the new line would still fall below what we have now. So lets just sit tight and see how things progress, all expectations have been reached so far.

The coming year will show if Pulju is able to score consistently in Finland, then it's clear that he's versatile in how he can also play a playmaker when paired a dedicated sniper and go for the finish himself in other situations. That'd raise his draft stock even more in my opinion.
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I agree with everything you say. Nevertheless, I would be interested to see the different line combinations outlined above as the results of the Lake Placid tournament are more or less meaningless. It wouldn't hurt to explore the other options.
 
Meh. Almost anything we've seen so far about the guy is irrelevant - this season is the season. He will get a real chance to cement his place on the men's team. That means an offensive role and PP time. Now it's up to him to prove he's worthy of the hype.
 
I will be so bold as to venture a guess of his Liiga production in the coming season. If he gets top 6 minutes and proper time on the PP, these are my expectations:

45gp, 17+24 = 41

I have high hopes.
 
HockeyHistorian said:
They undoubtedly have produced well together and they also seem to have good personal chemistry. It would seem that Laine benefits by having Puljujärvi on the same line as him, as the Puljujärvi's quickness and offensive prowess take a lot of the heat off from him. However, this has the effect of reducing Puljujärvi more or less to a grinding and playmaking role.

Puljujärvi does all this very well mind you, but one wonders if his offensive production is being stymied in the process. However, in the coach's view, what matters in these things is the overall production of the team and I guess they are under the impression that team Finland is better when Puljujärvi is creating more space for Laine whose elite scoring prowess is then better utilized. It would be intriguing to see them on different lines in the remaining games at Lake Placid.

For example, they could play Laine with Rantanen who is a natural playmaker and can move his feet as well:

Aho - Saarela/Nättinen - Puljujärvi
Laine - Nättinen/Saarela - Rantanen
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I was always under the impression that Puljujärvi benefits Laine but Laine takes up some of the space Puljujärvi needs in order to be more of a sniper. I felt like it's better to split the two and let them be seperate snipers in their own lines as Finland doesn't have enough snipers. Aho and Puljujärvi go well together so they can be the wingers of one line, and hopefully Rantanen could complement Laine.
 
HockeyHistorian said:
Puljujärvi & Laine on a same line:

U20 Puljujärvi 4gp, 3+4 = 7
U20 Laine 4gp, 4+3 = 7
U18 Puljujärvi 7gp, 2+5 = 7
U18 Laine 7gp, 8+3 = 11

Personal totals:
Puljujärvi 11gp, 5+9 = 14
Laine 11gp, 12+6 = 18

Combined totals:
11gp, 17+15 = 32

As you can see, they have combined for 17 goals in 11 games. From the coach's viewpoint there seems to be little reason in breaking them up.
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Oh they've been better together than I thought
 
From Lake Placid so far by watching these games I'd say Puljujärvi and Matthews are pretty much on equal grounds right now while being nothing much alike as player types. Matthews plays more flashy game with great stickhandling ability and is able to generate plays with a fast tempo. Pulju seems to have a bit more straightforward style, using sheer strength and skill to force his way onto the net. This doesn't negate the fact of being able to use his team mates. He can playmake and be patient without taking unnecessary risks with give aways. Think if he wasn't playing restricted and following team strategy, he would be flatout flying through the ice. As an individual player he seems more dangerous than Matthews and is able to stickhandle through traffic to make a play for himself to find himself opposed to a goalie. Right now, while playing with Laine he's not making as much of those solo efforts which he could, but yesterday's goal was one of those examples why he's so brilliant challenging guys and pushing through. Whoever said Matthews was on a different tier really needs to drop off his red-blue glasses.

Been fun having first hand glimpses for these next years' guys so early in the year. Luckily hockey breaks don't tend to take that long if your interested about everything else on aside while waiting for the league breaks to end.
 
Puljujärvi and playmaker in a same sentence. :shakehead

This alone tells me that they're not utilizing his strengths to the fullest. They need to separate him and Laine.
 
myrsky said:
Puljujärvi and playmaker in a same sentence. :shakehead

This alone tells me that they're not utilizing his strengths to the fullest. They need to separate him and Laine.
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Huh, what do you mean? Are you watching these games?

He's the one setting Laine up, mostly. Just like he was in the U18s.
Laine actually has missed a handful of really good opportunities so far but he always makes them up with that nasty onetimer or slap shot.
On the last game (think on the 3rd period) Puljujärvi threw him the puck from behind the net in front of Halverson and Laine missed. Can recall a couple of other instances from previous games.
 
kelsier said:
Huh, what do you mean? Are you watching these games?

He's the one setting Laine up, mostly. Just like he was in the U18s.
Laine actually has missed a handful of really good opportunities so far but he always makes them up with that nasty onetimer or slap shot.
On the last game (think on the 3rd period) Puljujärvi threw him the puck from behind the net in front of Halverson and Laine missed. Can recall a couple of other instances from previous games.
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Puljujärvi isn't playmaker. He is sniper for sure but he has ability to set up plays too. He has shoot first mentality.
 

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