RW JC Lipon - Kamloops Blazers, WHL (2013, 91st overall, Winnipeg)
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No no, he plays in the WHL, the Canucks are dead set opposed to drafting players from the WHL......no matter how convenient they would be to scout, or how obvious they seem to be remember?
Could really see the flames taking a gamble on this guy, Our RW depth is atrocious and it seems that he is the type of player that Feaster has been drafting lately. Hopefully he slips until the third round but that i very doubtful, I see him being taken late in the first.
R S
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Really? I don't see that happening. Not in this draft with the talent available.
I could definitely see a second if he keeps up this torrid pace. Know this draft is much deeper but Dub guys with offense like Moroz, Martinook, Sutter and even Scissons went in the 2nd last year and Lipon brings a really good all-around package. He's just as old as Sutter and Scissons and younger than Martinook. Wouldn't say any of those 4 are definitively better prospects than Lipon at this point with what he's shown.
I'm not really seeing a lot of Dub forwards outside Shinkaruk and Lazar exhibiting a lot of NHL potential as forwards, area guy could really fall in love with Lipon and push him hard at the table. I know Stu McGregor has probably been itching to draft a Kamloops kid for a while now.
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I'm still frustrated the lockout prevented us from offering him a contract. If the hockey gods were just, we'd be given a chance pre-season.
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One thing I don't understand is that if he were picked in the first round in 2012 as a huge reach, right now everyone would be saying, "well, he sure showed us", but now, it's a question mark if he even gets picked in the 2nd-3rd round?
I'd probably take him in the late 2nd, and definitely in the 3rd if he were available this draft.
I'd probably take him in the late 2nd, and definitely in the 3rd if he were available this draft.
Lets say hypothetically you were a GM, and you wee given the chance to select a forward in the late first who put up a 2 ppg pace would you? If he maintains this production it would be hard for any GM to pass that up. I understand that this is a deep draft but i doubt that anyone past the top 15 in this draft out of the forward cop will put up a 2 ppg pace next year. Lipon is a year ahead of everyone in his development so teams with a prospect pool in which have their main talents a bit older will have an appeal towards Lipon.
Michael Farkas
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Even in a draft without this much talent, I'm not sure I see him as a first rounder. Fine player, but when I watch him, I don't think "first rounder"
Michael Farkas
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I would never ever ever draft a player on statistics put up in a junior league...not in the first, not in the seventh...
but would you draft a player based upon offensive potential, in which statistics do have quite a story to tell. Lipon has offensive potential shooting out of him, he is super creative and has a great wrister. Although i agree that statistics do not tell the entire story, but they still do hold some importance to consider when drafting a player. Especially when we are discussing an offensive minded forward.
Michael Farkas
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I stand by what I said, with all due respect to your opnion. If there's offensive potential, I'd like to think I'd see it before a piece of paper would need to tell me about it. Lipon, who I just recently spoke with, is a good kid, down to earth, maybe even a tiny bit overwhelmed by the attention he's getting all of a sudden...he shows that he's got some skill on the ice certainly and for that reason I would consider drafting him. Ideally, for me, he'd be a little faster of a skater. Especially top speed. I don't see him as the next big thing in the NHL, he's a work in progress. Not first round material to me, I don't see that much potential, personally. Maybe some of the resident WHL experts here feel differently, which wouldn't be invalid either, certainly.
Drafting on numbers gets you Maxime Boisclair. Must use caution. No substitute for talent evaluation.
I could not agree more with you, but what i have seen so far of the kid in my opionion leads me to first round talent. I understand that the kid is surronded by some great talents, and that his skating is a bit questionable but skating is something that can be worked on whereas offensive instinct is not something that can be taught. Look at all the players today whom were questioned to some extent due to their skating, heck John Tavares was someone whom in his draft year had horrendious skating. I understand the whole work in progress as every prospect truly is a work in progress, all that i am saying is that i see a solid second line winger in 3-5 years for J.C Lipon, and that is why i rate him a late round pick.
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Like I say time and time again on here, stats are a very very very very small portion of what goes into scouting and projecting players.
You don't pick a guy just because he had a 2 point-per-game season. That's not what it's about. It doesn't mean that he'll be a successful NHL player or even a successful pro.
So much more goes into it.
If there is other evidence to suggest he can be a valuable NHL player, then sure, he might be worth a selection that early. But, I don't see that with Lipon. I still think he'll be drafted, but at this point I don't think I would even consider him with a top 75 selection. That's not a knock on him, it's just the reality of the situation. He's a 19 year old who's been passed over twice. Of course he should be able to outscore kids that are two years younger than him.
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Colin Smith and Tim Bozon are the main reasons for Lipons success. They are gelling together perfectly. Those 2 are making Lipon good this year. Avs got a dandy selecting Smith
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Afting making the WJC team in a lockout year, I think he will be drafted for sure. How high do you think he could go? I was thinking about it and I wouldnt mind the Oilers using a mid 2nd on him. What do you guys think?
This exactly..I honestly think that Smith is the reason for all of their success so far. Smith wouldn't have stood a chance at the World Juniors unfortunately since he wouldn't be useful on the bottom six, and isn't quite good enough for the top two lines this year. Not saying Lipon isn't good, but I think we'll see Smith in the NHL one day.
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I don't believe that, and I was a fan of Bozon even before my favorite team drafted him. I'd love to shovel all the credit onto Bozon, but that wouldn't be deserved.
When I watched them, Lipon seemed to me like the engine that was driving the line. I have no idea whether he'll be the better pro, but I think it's very disingenuous to imply that Lipon is leeching off his NHL-drafted linemates. He's very much pulling his own weight.
I will agree that the 3 do seem to have perfect chemistry, however. I think Montreal or Colorado would do very well to pursue Lipon in that respect.
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R S
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I really hope a team doesn't use that high of a pick on him. I would say a 4th rounder would suffice.
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If he shines in the WJC and Kamloops goes to the Memorial Cup, with him leading the way, then maybe, but I dont think we see him approaching Tanner Pearson territory.
He doesnt have the size that attracts NHL attention. I think there is a good chance he goes undrafted tbh. Which may work out better for him as he could sign as a free agent, which I could see happening.
