RW Bruno Osmanis - IF Björklöven, HockeyAllsvenskan (2025 Draft)

Eye of Ra

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There is a small difference between Latvian and Slovakian in terms of how the scouts look at them, since, well, both countries simply suck at the NHL level currently. This is why just by the logic of probability, a NHL team will draft a no-name Swede (~70 NHLers) out of the swedish u18 league, but not the Latvian who might objectively be the better player.

A country has more NHLers - > the junior gets a slight edge. I also remember how TSN undervalued slovak teams on WJC, but things changed after the famous drafts, beating USA and playing close games with Canada.

Claiming that if Osmanis was slovak would dramatically help his draft stock is extremely unfortunate and funny at the same time. Out of all, you pricked the country that has the exact same problem as you thing Latvia is having. We ALWAYS get less drafted players that we expect (no, it is not homer-ism), because NHL teams just do not like drafting them. That is the truth. Instead of a player that should get drafted, we see waves of random Swedes and Czechs. in the late round of course. So in case of this problem, I would merge Latvia and Slovakia into the same category. Even the ranking that you were basing on has our best prospect in 4th-5th round.

Osmanis's problem is that he plays on a weak team, so it is harder to get noticead and also has not done anything that special yet apart from the respectable Allsvenskan production. If he manages to keep up with this production and has a good WJC, he will get ranked higher. For now though I'd rank him at least a 4-5th round prospect
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There is a small difference between Latvian and Slovakian in terms of how the scouts look at them, since, well, both countries simply suck at the NHL level currently. This is why just by the logic of probability, a NHL team will draft a no-name Swede (~70 NHLers) out of the swedish u18 league, but not the Latvian who might objectively be the better player.

A country has more NHLers - > the junior gets a slight edge. I also remember how TSN undervalued slovak teams on WJC, but things changed after the famous drafts, beating USA and playing close games with Canada.

Claiming that if Osmanis was slovak would dramatically help his draft stock is extremely unfortunate and funny at the same time. Out of all, you pricked the country that has the exact same problem as you thing Latvia is having. We ALWAYS get less drafted players that we expect (no, it is not homer-ism), because NHL teams just do not like drafting them. That is the truth. Instead of a player that should get drafted, we see waves of random Swedes and Czechs. in the late round of course. So in case of this problem, I would merge Latvia and Slovakia into the same category. Even the ranking that you were basing on has our best prospect in 4th-5th round.

Osmanis's problem is that he plays on a weak team, so it is harder to get noticead and also has not done anything that special yet apart from the respectable Allsvenskan production. If he manages to keep up with this production and has a good WJC, he will get ranked higher. For now though I'd rank him at least a 4-5th round prospect
Not sure how I missed all of these golden nuggets!

Let's start by undressing the first one.

Your first point about 'logic of probability' is pure conjecture not based on reality. B tier prospects don't always even get the chance to play for Sweden at WJC. If you look up their WJC roster, it's all draftees and some role players. They have so much depth they can choose and pick, shape their roster to their liking with tactics in mind, lefties, righties, all of that sweet stuff.

If you're a Swedish B- tier prospect and you don't make the national team, you might be buried in J20 Nationell with a few Allsvenskan (or even Hockeyettan) games under your belt on the 4th line on a shoddy team. To imply that you would magically have better draft stocks than a Slovakian with 14 points in 7 WJC games is completely absurd and incorrect.

And who the hell gets drafted from the Swedish U18 league? No one gets drafted from the J18s. That alone proves you're just making up stuff as you go.

My little '#10' comment was clearly sarcastic. It went wooosh over everyone's head. Do you think I believe Osmanis is a No. 10 pick in this draft class? Are you insane?

I have went through this multiple times and this part is getting a little boring. You guys don't learn. This has nothing to do with Slovakia. Slovakia is simply in that sweet spot where their depth of players is limited but good enough to make a deeper play-off run from time to time.

Instead of Slovakia it could be any other country in those same type of circumstances. It could be Norway, Latvia or Kyrzbekistan. It just so happens that Slovakia is currently in that spot where they get overhyped every 5 years or so. It has nothing to do with Slovakia. The cognitive bias is blind and does not see.

Also, as for Osmanis, he has an elite set of mittens and reminds me a lot of Balcers. Slightly undersized dangly forwards have to really showcase themselves to get picked in the top 2 rounds, but I am confident that Osmanis will not drop below the 3rd.
 

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