Runoff: Who is the 11th best player so far in the 21st Century?

[wetcoast]

2 players had 9 votes and 2 had 8 so I'll do a quick 1 or 2 day 4 player runoff before moving onto the 12th poll

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[x Tame Impala]

Karlsson has no business winning this with his lack of defensive acumen

 

[Skolman]

There's people that would rather build a team around Karlsson than Chara.....?

Questionable

 

[Leafshater67]

There's people that would rather build a team around Karlsson than Chara.....?

Questionable

Prime Karlsson with the sens was incredible. His peak was high but he couldn’t sustain it. Now he’s underrated and people forget how good he once was.

 

[DitchMarner]

There's people that would rather build a team around Karlsson than Chara.....?

Questionable

I'm not sure that's the theme. The poll is asking which player is the 11th best player of this century. I'm sure people are taking career accomplishments into account.

Besides, Karlsson might be a better choice in today's era. Would Chara be as effective as he was in a wider open, higher scoring League?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Prime Karlsson with the sens was incredible. His peak was high but he couldn’t sustain it. Now he’s underrated and people forget how good he once was.

Not comparable to Chara or Datsyuk however.

 

[Mirka the Turka]

There's people that would rather build a team around Karlsson than Chara.....?

Questionable

I mean that cup run Karlsson took Ottawa on which was one goal away from beating the stanley cup champs is far better than any run Chara has done.

 

[Sheppy]

I mean that cup run Karlsson took Ottawa on which was one goal away from beating the stanley cup champs is far better than any run Chara has done.

Except Chara has a cup.

What's better, a good cup run and coming up short or a good cup run and winning a cup?

 

[Mirka the Turka]

Except Chara has a cup.

What's better, a good cup run and coming up short or a good cup run and winning a cup?

I mean Karlsson would have won a cup with that dominant Bruins team too...

 

[Faceboner]

Datsyuk, Keith, Chara, Karlsson

 

[Sheppy]

I mean Karlsson would have won a cup with that dominant Bruins team too...

Part of the reason the team was dominant was the Chara/Seidenberg pairing.

It's just weird to say a "cup run" that ended without a cup was far better than a cup run that ended with one. Especially when the one you're mentioning didn't even result in the Senators making the cup finals.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Losing in the ECF isn’t a Cup run. Nashville would’ve spanked the Senators too

 

[I am not exposed]

Except Chara has a cup.

What's better, a good cup run and coming up short or a good cup run and winning a cup?

Neither defines how good a player actually is. It is a team game after all. And the question is best player, not which player has more cups.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Chara over Keith is crazy

 

[x Tame Impala]

Chara over Keith is crazy

East Coast bias maybe? Personally I’ve never gotten it but I remember a Keith vs Chara poll sometime last year where Chara won.

 

[Sheppy]

Neither defines how good a player actually is. It is a team game after all. And the question is best player, not which player has more cups.

Right, and I'm saying it's weird to say that a "cup run" which resulted in losing in the ECF is "far better" than what Chara has done. Is Karlsson more offensively talented? No doubt. That said, the Chara/Seidenberg pairing was absolutely bananas in shutting down opposing teams.

 

[Leafshater67]

Not comparable to Chara or Datsyuk however.

I disagree. The window was shorter but the peak was super, super high. He completely controlled the ice during his sens run every shift and drug them through the playoffs himself. He was never the same after the injury though.

I’m still taking Chara BTW. The intangibles and leadership put him over the top for me. Just saying Karlsson is underappreciated. IMO, he was a top 3 player in the league for a brief bit where it would be a stretch to say Chara or Datsyuk were.