Proposal: Rumours & Proposals Thread | Trade Cloned, Keep Soli | STAY AWAY CHIA

[LJellySlam]

I would do Bear + Chiasson + JP for Hamilton.

Let's be real.. other teams are going to be offering more than 2 B grade prospects and a recent PTO for Hamilton.... And they want to win now not rebuild.

Nuge for Hamilton straight up is very close to fair value IMO.. then add the chia tax

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

'Crippling' the forward depth? We traded Drake Caggiula.

I'm not a fan of adding cap for a defenseman who likely isn't in our top six, but be real. This trade had little to no impact on the active roster beyond the cap spending.

This trade still leads me to believe that Sekera is done here.

We aren't deep up front as it is and Drake was a scrappy guy that could pot a few goals.

Manning brings nothing to this team but dead cap space and was healthy scratched both in his old and new homes.

There wasn't a single damn reason to make that trade. Unless the goal was to make Chiarelli look foolish again.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

LeBrun again saying Hamilton is available, not that we didn’t know that already. Crying shame they want a top 6 forward for him, something we don’t have. They’re trying to make the playoffs so picks/prospects won’t do it.

The possibility of making it a 3 way trade does exist.

 

[frag2]

Yes, all those wonderful cap overpayments. Death by seven hundred thousand cuts and further crippling our forward depth.

It was a brutal trade.

FTFY

 

[Cerebral]

If Carolina really wants to make the playoffs, I’d be willing to make a dramatic deal that lands us a winger and defenceman:

to Edm: Hamilton, Svechnikov
to Car: Draisaitl, Benning, Yamamoto

The value would depend on how highly Carolina views Svech but I feel like this deal fills two holes and lets RNH become the true second line centreman.

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

Let's be real.. other teams are going to be offering more than 2 B grade prospects and a recent PTO for Hamilton.... And they want to win now not rebuild.

Nuge for Hamilton straight up is very close to fair value IMO.. then add the chia tax

I think that's pretty fair value considering the optics of trading Hamilton so soon after acquiring him, as well as this being a down year for him.

Calling Chiasson a recent PTO as opposed to basing his value on his performance this year, which is what most rentals are valued on, is just trying to put a negative spin on his value for no good reason.

I understand the negativity on these boards, but nuge for Hamilton would be Hall for Larsson levels of bad.

 

[joestevens29]

Soli ties it up. Just what I like to see

 

[LJellySlam]

I think that's pretty fair value considering the optics of trading Hamilton so soon after acquiring him, as well as this being a down year for him.

Calling Chiasson a recent PTO as opposed to basing his value on his performance this year, which is what most rentals are valued on, is just trying to put a negative spin on his value for no good reason.

I understand the negativity on these boards, but nuge for Hamilton would be Hall for Larsson levels of bad.

Disagree considering
Hall >> Nuge
Hamilton >> Larson

 

[belair]

We aren't deep up front as it is and Drake was a scrappy guy that could pot a few goals.

Manning brings nothing to this team but dead cap space and was healthy scratched both in his old and new homes.

There wasn't a single damn reason to make that trade. Unless the goal was to make Chiarelli look foolish again.

Drake was a scrappy guy who potted goals when given opportunities up in the top six. He was a direct result to a number of GA when placed in those roles though. And when he was in the bottom six, he was a total black hole. What value does that bring to your team?

This was a nothing deal in terms of on ice impact.

 

[Aerrol]

I just want to say that I'm pleasantly surprised that HFOil has managed to keep the vote evenly split. Shows way more coordination than any of the threads on here would suggest we're capable of .

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

Disagree considering
Hall >> Nuge
Hamilton >> Larson

We'd be trading a known character/locker room guy, for a guy with supposed issues, which is the opposite of the hall for Larson swap.

Obviously it's not exactly the same, but

Hall + supposed character issues for Larsson

Vs

Nuge for Hamilton + supposed character issues

Sways it a bit as well.

You also have to factor in our forward depth when trading hall, vs our forward depth know and trading nuge.

 

[Cloned]

I just want to say that I'm pleasantly surprised that HFOil has managed to keep the vote evenly sleep. Shows way more coordination than any of the threads on here would suggest we're capable of .

This is called voter fraud and I won’t stand for it.

 

[Aerrol]

This is called voter fraud and I won’t stand for it.

Gonna need some more hotdogs to pay for the court challenge though.

 

[Patch101]

Drake was a scrappy guy who potted goals when given opportunities up in the top six. He was a direct result to a number of GA when placed in those roles though. And when he was in the bottom six, he was a total black hole. What value does that bring to your team?

This was a nothing deal in terms of on ice impact.

I disagree. Drake was is his 3rd pro year (not a lot different that JP). He deserved more time and patience. Maybe he doesn't grow anymore, but if he does i will be yet another young player not given time to develop here.

 

[Cloned]

Gonna need some more hotdogs to pay for the court challenge though.

Just pretend those are Canadian flags.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Drake was a scrappy guy who potted goals when given opportunities up in the top six. He was a direct result to a number of GA when placed in those roles though. And when he was in the bottom six, he was a total black hole. What value does that bring to your team?

This was a nothing deal in terms of on ice impact.

More than a dman who is paid more and gives up more scoring chances. Manning is negative value. A healthy scratch on the worst team in the league and had Hawks fans floating about how they managed to offload such a previously unmovable deal. It’s jusy another in a long line of crappy Chiarelli deals that have made the team worse.

Impact isn’t big but it’s still there. Maybe we can take Brent Seabrook off their hands for RNH or Chiasson.

 

[justafan22]

More than a dman who is paid more and gives up more scoring chances. Manning is negative value. A healthy scratch on the worst team in the league and had Hawks fans floating about how they managed to offload such a previously unmovable deal. It’s jusy another in a long line of crappy Chiarelli deals that have made the team worse.

Impact isn’t big but it’s still there. Maybe we can take Brent Seabrook off their hands for RNH or Chiasson.

chiasson is getting 4 years from peter

 

[Faelko]

chiasson is getting 4 years from peter

Sadly that wouldn’t be his worst contract he’s given out.

And you forgot the NMC...

 

[justafan22]

Sadly that wouldn’t be his worst contract he’s given out.

And you forgot the NMC...

he's scored one goal in a month... beware

 

[belair]

I disagree. Drake was is his 3rd pro year (not a lot different that JP). He deserved more time and patience. Maybe he doesn't grow anymore, but if he does i will be yet another young player not given time to develop here.

Caggiula was undrafted. There's not much else to his game, because these college UFA signings almost always end up like this. The upside is negligible.

And even if there was a bit of upside with him, where do you put them? You're doing your roster a disservice when you're bogging it down with players hoping that one day they'll 'figure it out'.

Caggiula was what he is. We got a player we were able to plug into the lineup on an ELC and squeezed out a 100 or so games of whatever he was. Thank you poor drafting.

 

[Faelko]

Dreger: "I think Carolina might have some interest in Cam Talbot

 

[780il]

Dreger: "I think Carolina might have some interest in Cam Talbot

Talbot + Pulju + 2 2nds for Hamilton

 

[Faelko]

Talbot + Pulju + 2 2nds for Hamilton

I was wondering Bear instead of the 2nds. Still think they’d get a better offer elsewhere and just wait to sign Talbot in July.

 

[t0nedeff]

Disagree considering
Hall >> Nuge
Hamilton >> Larson

oh you mean a troll thinks Oiler players are less value colour me shocked. RNH is having a better year right now than Hall put up his last year here and Hamilton has basically fallen flat on his face in Carolina compared to his past production but sure disregard current Oiler performance when it doesn't serve your trolling.

 

[McDNicks17]

The interesting thing with a Talbot trade is we'd need to get a backup back.

The team basically shut down Montoya, so he's out of the picture. He hasn't played since November.