Rumor: Rumors & Trade Proposals Thread | Post Mortem '23-24 Season: Who Should Stay, Who Should Go & Who Should We Bring In?

[CycloneSweep]

Yeh I know Oil Country is really down on Mcleod. I still see a good player there, there’s lots of tools to work with and a decent tool box. He needs to take this offseason though and realize he needs to be more of a bottom 6er and less of a top 6er. He needs to hit more often and he needs to crash more nets. I think with his skating and his head for the game, he should be able to transition to that type of game no problem.

I don’t think you can really teach the willingness to take contact to a guy who has always avoided it.
If we want to keep him as a bottom 6 winger, there is value to that. But as a center his game is just not a fit for a team of our level.

 

[JeffSkinner53]

So far what I've read (pure speculation btw):
Henrique testing FA
Foegle testing FA
Janmark take discount to stay
Connor Brown take discount to stay
Mcdavid next contract 16 mil, drai 14 mil, Bouchard 10 mil. All 8 years.

 

[TheNumber4]

McLeod can take a hike. I’d trade him for a pick.

Guy needs to be sat to play well. Over and over.

I still have trust in him. I think the Org will stick with him too. But he does need to be better.

 

[Mr Positive]

McLeod is an absolutely awful center and he proved that all year. He can handle bottom 6 wing but he offers nothing at center


If you have to keep upgrading your 3c every deadline, maybe stop putting that guy as your 3c

There is that saying that insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results, but McLeod of 2023-24 is not the same as next season's version. Look at how people see Broberg now. We should give more chances to young guys. We've invested so much in McLeod.

We should even give a real look at Lavoie. Maybe in the Perry spot

 

[CycloneSweep]

Yeh I know Oil Country is really down on Mcleod. I still see a good player there, there’s lots of tools to work with and a decent tool box. He needs to take this offseason though and realize he needs to be more of a bottom 6er and less of a top 6er. He needs to hit more often and he needs to crash more nets. I think with his skating and his head for the game, he should be able to transition to that type of game no problem.


He offers responsible 2 way play as a 3C. Brings elite speed to get back and dart in and out of defensive plays.

He isn’t a 2 way center though. He brings zero offensively at 3c. He is an adequate 4c maybe but is much better on the wing.

He is a guy we are literally upgrading on every deadline. That’s a sign.

 

[Mr Positive]

So far what I've read (pure speculation btw):
Henrique testing FA
Foegle testing FA
Janmark take discount to stay
Connor Brown take discount to stay
Mcdavid next contract 16 mil, drai 14 mil, Bouchard 10 mil. All 8 years.

Imo those salaries will be a bit lower

 

[TheNumber4]

I don’t think you can really teach the willingness to take contact to a guy who has always avoided it.
If we want to keep him as a bottom 6 winger, there is value to that. But as a center his game is just not a fit for a team of our level.

He’d need to hit as a 3C or a Winger though. Probably even more as a Winger that is expected to start the forecheck. If anything I’d keep him on as a 4C (would be one of the better 4Cs in the League) and see how he progresses with more realization of what needs to change in his game.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Rishaug made it sound like there is no way Henrique is back on GYB a few min ago

Man he doesn’t know lol. He’s adding more fire to the podcast for more discussions. I wouldn’t rely on him. Don’t forget that he thought trading Barrie for Ekholm was a mistake

 

[CycloneSweep]

There is that saying that insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results, but McLeod of 2023-24 is not the same as next season's version. Look at how people see Broberg now. We should give more chances to young guys. We've invested so much in McLeod.

We should even give a real look at Lavoie. Maybe in the Perry spot

We have given tons of chance to McLeod and he has shown what he is at center. He is fine as a winger but his game is not good for a center. Especially in the playoffs.
When deep in the playoffs ancient Derek Ryan is playing center over you that’s a problem.

 

[dem]

McLeod makes too much for what he is.

 

[Senor Catface]

My issue with McLeod on the wing is he's clearly too soft of a player to make the necessary plays to get the puck out. It happened on the first goal and it almost happened again like 5 minutes later into the game.

 

[WaitingForUser]

Man he doesn’t know lol. He’s adding more fire to the podcast for more discussions. I wouldn’t rely on him. Don’t forget that he thought trading Barrie for Ekholm was a mistake

Yeah I think everyone and their dog was calling Kane impossible too. I will see what July 1 brings

 

[CycloneSweep]

My issue with McLeod on the wing is he's clearly too soft of a player to make the necessary plays to get the puck out. It happened on the first goal and it almost happened again like 5 minutes later into the game.

That’s true but he doesn’t have the strength, faceoff ability or really anything else to excel at center. He utilizes his speed much better when he is on the wing

 

[dem]

Man he doesn’t know lol. He’s adding more fire to the podcast for more discussions. I wouldn’t rely on him. Don’t forget that he thought trading Barrie for Ekholm was a mistake

There is a difference between news/rumors and hockey opinions.

I’m sure Rishaug knows a lot about what’s going on with the Oilers. He’s been on the beat forever.

 

[TheNumber4]

My issue with McLeod on the wing is he's clearly too soft of a player to make the necessary plays to get the puck out. It happened on the first goal and it almost happened again like 5 minutes later into the game.

And how could you have a winger forechecker that doesn’t finish checks..

 

[Mr Positive]

We have given tons of chance to McLeod and he has shown what he is at center. He is fine as a winger but his game is not good for a center. Especially in the playoffs.
When deep in the playoffs ancient Derek Ryan is playing center over you that’s a problem.

Center is a more difficult position, and likely why he's looked better on the wing. If he takes another step forward he should be able to excel at center. We have options if it doesn't work out, and if it does then it will pay off big time

I like the idea of putting him in between Janmark and Brown. If their play style rubs off on McLeod that is exactly what he needs

 

[TheNumber4]

He isn’t a 2 way center though. He brings zero offensively at 3c. He is an adequate 4c maybe but is much better on the wing.

He is a guy we are literally upgrading on every deadline. That’s a sign.

He’s a defensively responsible center and can get the job done in his own zone, often does. Brings production only sporadically and streakily though. But there is some offence, not none. 4 goals in the last 2 playoff rounds. He can also make plays in the o zone and can play with offensively gifted players. I would call thay 2 way.

 

[Sanchez]

Was there anything mentioned why Nurse wasn't at the presser? Definitely strange if he wasn't hurt or getting treatment/therapy/operation.

 

[TheNumber4]

After the Avs and Knights losses. I think we had a clearer picture of what this team needed moving forward. Harder to say after watching us get to Game 7, the team was right there.

We should probably assume that Nurse won’t ever figure it out at this point. If there’s a way to get rid of him, you do.

Failing that, we should assume that we need someone more reliable than Ceci.

Should also assume that McDrai will need more help moving forward. Actual Top 6 talent should be another priority.

 

[Wreckus]

After the Avs and Knights losses. I think we had a clearer picture of what this team needed moving forward. Harder to say after watching us get to Game 7, the team was right there.

We should probably assume that Nurse won’t ever figure it out at this point. If there’s a way to get rid of him, you do.

Failing that, we should assume that we need someone more reliable than Ceci.

Should also assume that McDrai will need more help moving forward. Actual Top 6 talent should be another priority.

Agreed. Wouldn't be surprised if the D gets the most significant upgrades this off-season.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Friedman says Mikheyev waives his NTC for the Hawks.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806144284032459083

 

[TheNumber4]

Agreed. Wouldn't be surprised if the D gets the most significant upgrades this off-season.

If we could create a 2nd pair that wins its possession battle. We’d be much improved.

 

[Oilhawks]

Friedman says Mikheyev waives his NTC for the Hawks.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806144284032459083

Probably figures he’s more likely to win a cup there anyhow

 

[TheNumber4]

Friedman says Mikheyev waives his NTC for the Hawks.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806144284032459083

God damn. So essentially they paid a 2nd to dump 4.75Mx2.

The 4th and Lafferty essentially cancels eachother out value wise.

We paid 2nd and 3rd to dump 3.25Mx2 in Kassian. But I guess flat cap is becoming less of a thing nowadays. And Kassian proved to be close to useless, whereas Mikeyhev can still play a viable NHL game.

 

[foshizzle]

You'd need to find a taker. Imo it still makes more sense to upgrade his partner. He played tons better away from our RDs but it's not ideal to have him play with other LDs like Broberg or Kulak.

But sure, maybe there is a way. Maybe the most probable is to trade him for a similar player but the RD version. Seth Jones' contract and status are similar. Hamilton is too much like Bouchard. Maybe send extra value to Chicago and they retain a chunk

The problem is you can’t have Bouchard at 10M and Nurse at 9.25. One has to go