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[Da McBomb]

You don't start a clothing company and leave in a year. That would be nuts. Also the franchise working closely with a business partner makes it a unique opportunity.


They have made big trades before, and nothing seems to work there. Must be something in the water.

Normally the Oilers would not team up with any private companies and let them use their name and logo for their products. But this is McDavid here... so of course they don't mind lol. Oilers website even did a feature with Lauren. But I think it is great... just another reason for the McDavid's to attach to the Edmonton market.

 

[McDNicks17]

McCarron strikes me as a guy who will cost a fortune because his optics far outweigh the actual substance he gives.

Like sure, he's huge, but he isn't really an intimidating physical player and sure, he fights, but he pretty much loses every fight he gets into. And sure, he's skilled for a big guy, but he isn't going to produce more than a Derek Ryan.

You can likely get a #4C at a small fraction of the price that provides the same hockey value as McCarron.

 

[belair]

McCarron strikes me as a guy who will cost a fortune because his optics far outweigh the actual substance he gives.

Like sure, he's huge, but he isn't really an intimidating physical player and sure, he fights, but he pretty much loses every fight he gets into. And sure, he's skilled for a big guy, but he isn't going to produce more than a Derek Ryan.

You can likely get a #4C at a small fraction of the price that provides the same hockey value as McCarron.

Sissons is the vastly better forward and the resume to back the likely acquisition cost. I'm not sure where the McCarron talk is coming from though. I have a hard time seeing him making a playoff roster.

 

[K1984]

Normally the Oilers would not team up with any private companies and let them use their name and logo for their products. But this is McDavid here... so of course they don't mind lol. Oilers website even did a feature with Lauren. But I think it is great... just another reason for the McDavid's to attach to the Edmonton market.

I was going to make a similar post. Oilers defend their brand and trademarks militantly, no matter what. They don't budge an inch for anything.

This is clearly a conscious overture, and a smart one at that. Keep it going. Let her redesign a suite in her weird Beetlejuice-esque decor next or something next. Keep her occupied.

 

[VeteranPresence]

McCarron strikes me as a guy who will cost a fortune because his optics far outweigh the actual substance he gives.

Like sure, he's huge, but he isn't really an intimidating physical player and sure, he fights, but he pretty much loses every fight he gets into.

You can likely get a #4C at a small fraction of the price that provides the same hockey value as McCarron.

I feel the same and I don't think McCarron is even all that great at his role. 4 points and a -12? Even the fancies don't paint a pretty picture, -4 xGA/AGA AND -4 HDGF/GA while not exactly soaking up a ton of defensive zone starts.

We might be better off claiming Shore on waivers than trading anything of value for MM. Noel Acciari is also having a better year than he should be, second most D zone starts in the entire league among Cs and still going 50% on the dot while being top 90 in creating high-danger chances. Oh, and he's played almost 20 minutes more a game SH than any other Pittsburgh forward.

If the Pens retained 50% that's a really valuable player for two playoff runs at $1M.

 

[K1984]

I feel the same and I don't think McCarron is even all that great at his role. 4 points and a -12? Even the fancies don't paint a pretty picture, -4 xGA/AGA AND -4 HDGF/GA while not exactly soaking up a ton of defensive zone starts.

We might be better off claiming Shore on waivers than trading anything of value for MM. Noel Acciari is also having a better year than he should be, second most D zone starts in the entire league among Cs and still going 50% on the dot while being top 90 in creating high-danger chances. Oh, and he's played almost 20 minutes more a game SH than any other Pittsburgh forward.

If the Pens retained 50% that's a really valuable player for two playoff runs at $1M.

Speed is the problem with Accari, a 4th line with him and Perry on it would be ripe to get sniped in a matchup.

 

[timekeep]

You don't start a clothing company and leave in a year. That would be nuts. Also the franchise working closely with a business partner makes it a unique opportunity.


They have made big trades before, and nothing seems to work there. Must be something in the water.

Like I said, I fully expect they resign in Edmonton. I was actually referencing how expensive and exclusive her little clothing company is. I doubt she is going to make much money at it and her goals are to be a designer of some sort. I guess she can use it on her resume some day.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I know other people from other boards like to suggest it isn't an absolute slam dunk McDavid re-signs with the Oilers. Sure, his buddy signed the max extension. Sure he loves all the guys and the fans. Sure the Oilers made his agent the boss. Sure they are close to a cup. Forget all that. This is the absolute signed sealed and delivered signal.

Lauren Kyle McDavid launches Oilers-themed clothing brand

Lauren Kyle McDavid, Connor McDavid's wife, has launched an Edmonton Oilers-themed clothing line.

edmonton.ctvnews.ca

I wonder if Katz gave her a free license to sell these lol. Or do you need to go through the NHL.

 

[Arpeggio]

Normally the Oilers would not team up with any private companies and let them use their name and logo for their products. But this is McDavid here... so of course they don't mind lol. Oilers website even did a feature with Lauren. But I think it is great... just another reason for the McDavid's to attach to the Edmonton market.

They used the logo on Kane's gear and sold it on the website. I think they're pretty open to collaborating these days (they make a ton of money on merchandise so why not).

 

[timekeep]

I wonder if Katz gave her a free license to sell these lol. Or do you need to go through the NHL.

I think the only place to buy is at the Oilers IceDistrict retailers.

 

[94 Oil Drops]

Why is it a terrible idea? The oilers made it to the finals largely without him, and they are doing fine this year.

He was a factor in the Kings and Canucks series. He blew up Hughes a couple of times and made life miserable for a lot of players. A healthy Kane would of deterred Bennett and Tkachuk from running around like dangerous f***ing idiots all the time. I'd be willing to bet he'd score a huge goal or 2 in that series. We missed him in that final. A lot.

Not to mention Evander will need a ton of time to shake off the rust PLUS may not be as effective as before even in the best of cases. His surgeries were no joke and at his age it's an even bigger hill to climb. We're also pretty loaded on the wings right now so it will be tough for him to get ice time in situations where he's most effective (that is, with premier linemates).

I think if there's a deal out there to improve the team and Kane's cap is what makes it work, you have to look seriously at it. I especially don't want to have $5M in dead cap next year if he's healthy enough to play but not healthy enough to be the player he once was. We have to operate more like Vegas and not be afraid to cut bait on guys as they enter their twilight years. It's why they win.

Podkolzin is the only other player on this team that hits a lot when Kane isn't playing. If you trade Kane, who hits on this team? A slow as molasses Perry? Nurse when he feels like it I guess...? The more snarl the better in the playoffs.

I could move Kane if there's something really good available out there as an upgrade but I'd way rather get rid of Ardvidsson instead. He's way smaller than Kane and even more injury prone.

 

[Jumptheshark]

He was a factor in the Kings and Canucks series. He blew up Hughes a couple of times and made life miserable for a lot of players. A healthy Kane would of deterred Bennett and Tkachuk from running around like dangerous f***ing idiots all the time. I'd be willing to bet he'd score a huge goal or 2 in that series. We missed him in that final. A lot.

Podkolzin is the only other player on this team that hits a lot when Kane isn't playing. If you trade Kane, who hits on this team? A slow as molasses Perry? Nurse when he feels like it I guess...? The more snarl the better in the playoffs.

I could move Kane if there's something really good available out there as an upgrade but I'd way rather get rid of Ardvidsson instead. He's way smaller than Kane and even more injury prone.

I am in the camp not trade Kane. When Healthy he brings a lot of things that this team needs. He can score, hit and fight. Pods is on pace for about 8 goals. Kane is a better all around player and plays a style that opens up the ice for others

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Why is it a terrible idea? The oilers made it to the finals largely without him, and they are doing fine this year.

I think a healthy Kane in the finals would have been the difference but obviously who knows.

 

[TheNumber4]

Even if we are looking to move Kane, after his play (injured), I can't see there being a huge market for him at $5M with his bad PR history.

Hope that he's healthy and focused, and give him another shot at being a big time Playoff Warrior for us. The reward could be immense if he can bring his best.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

McCarron strikes me as a guy who will cost a fortune because his optics far outweigh the actual substance he gives.

Like sure, he's huge, but he isn't really an intimidating physical player and sure, he fights, but he pretty much loses every fight he gets into. And sure, he's skilled for a big guy, but he isn't going to produce more than a Derek Ryan.

You can likely get a #4C at a small fraction of the price that provides the same hockey value as McCarron.

The smart play is to call up Phelp beginning of January and actually test him paying for a fourth line center when youve already got a guy but you just haven't given them a chance is stupid. It's how you end up with your jack Campbell level mistake.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

I feel the same and I don't think McCarron is even all that great at his role. 4 points and a -12? Even the fancies don't paint a pretty picture, -4 xGA/AGA AND -4 HDGF/GA while not exactly soaking up a ton of defensive zone starts.

We might be better off claiming Shore on waivers than trading anything of value for MM. Noel Acciari is also having a better year than he should be, second most D zone starts in the entire league among Cs and still going 50% on the dot while being top 90 in creating high-danger chances. Oh, and he's played almost 20 minutes more a game SH than any other Pittsburgh forward.

If the Pens retained 50% that's a really valuable player for two playoff runs at $1M.

His defensive zone start percentage from 2023-25 in order are: 80.8%, 64.5%, and 74.4%. I also think this is the wrong deployment for him, IMO he belongs on a heavy line that grinds teams in the offensive zone like the Blues CPR line used to do.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Sissons is the vastly better forward and the resume to back the likely acquisition cost. I'm not sure where the McCarron talk is coming from though. I have a hard time seeing him making a playoff roster.

I’ve been a big fan of Sissons game for a long time and was hoping we would inquire about him last year. He’s having an absolutely miserable season but I think with the needed retention he’d still have a decent acquisition cost.

The issue I see now is that we’ve got a pretty deep lineup and there’s only so many minutes to go around. Underplaying guys can be just as detrimental as overplaying them and I don’t know if we would be maximizing a guy like Sissons effectiveness by playing him the 6-8 minutes a night the 4C in Edmonton is going to be getting. Only way I can see it being worth it is if someone like Arvidsson or Henrique is going out.

 

[Mr Positive]

I would trade away Kane tbh. 5M in cap space can go a long way. And if he does go, I wouldn't be opposed to some meat on the 4th line.

He has a full NMC and left money on the table to play here. This is a case where there's no use thinking about it.

The one thing with Kane we can argue with him about is maybe convincing him to ride the LTIR for longer so we can use the 5 million at the deadline. This summer there are options as he loses his NMC and it becomes a 16 team NTC

 

[foshizzle]

Because the last time he was truly healthy for playoffs he was a top three player on the team. And he brings elements that our group lacks.
Versus Skinner and RV, who are basically the same type of player and have been made at least somewhat redundant by waiver wire pick ups and reclamation projects.

Again, the Oilers made it to the finals largely without him. What elements does he bring that the group lacks? The hitting? Hitting isn’t a primary objective in Knoblauch’s system.

He was a factor in the Kings and Canucks series. He blew up Hughes a couple of times and made life miserable for a lot of players. A healthy Kane would of deterred Bennett and Tkachuk from running around like dangerous f***ing idiots all the time. I'd be willing to bet he'd score a huge goal or 2 in that series. We missed him in that final. A lot.

Podkolzin is the only other player on this team that hits a lot when Kane isn't playing. If you trade Kane, who hits on this team? A slow as molasses Perry? Nurse when he feels like it I guess...? The more snarl the better in the playoffs.

I could move Kane if there's something really good available out there as an upgrade but I'd way rather get rid of Ardvidsson instead. He's way smaller than Kane and even more injury prone.

He wasn’t largely invisible in both series you mentioned except a few moments. He wasn’t there against Dallas or Florida. He is also horrible defensively. Also, how do you know they don’t get an impact player who fits Knob’s system for 5M?

 

[Mr Positive]

Again, the Oilers made it to the finals largely without him. What elements does he bring that the group lacks? The hitting? Hitting isn’t a primary objective in Knoblauch’s system.

Kane brings one of the most important elements: chaos. Knoblauch's style is all about sticking to the plan. Kane is a disruptor. When the system fails he's the best player on the ice. I bet we would have the cup if Kane were healthy

 

[jukon]

I don't think many of the big names are the answer, except maybe Andersson but I doubt we could nab him. The LD market is not the answer, and after not matching Broberg seems pretty silly. I'd settle for Fabbro at 50% for cheap and Vejmelka. Unfortunately Karel will probably re-sign in Utah.

 

[Mr Positive]

I don't think many of the big names are the answer, except maybe Andersson but I doubt we could nab him. The LD market is not the answer, and after not matching Broberg seems pretty silly. I'd settle for Fabbro at 50% for cheap and Vejmelka. Unfortunately Karel will probably re-sign in Utah.

I agree that the D should shoot right handed. He needs to be a good skater and puck mover too. He doesn't have to be a big name. A right shot D of Kulak's quality is probably enough. Aim higher of course

Calgary is annoyingly staying competitive so I doubt they sell Andersson. But as teams fall out of it, the list of available players will only grow

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Pettersson on PITT is week to week. That's a guy that was available

 

[TheNumber4]

I agree that the D should shoot right handed. He needs to be a good skater and puck mover too. He doesn't have to be a big name. A right shot D of Kulak's quality is probably enough. Aim higher of course

Calgary is annoyingly staying competitive so I doubt they sell Andersson. But as teams fall out of it, the list of available players will only grow

I don't even think the market has one of these guys unfortunately.

 

[Mr Positive]

Pettersson on PITT is week to week. That's a guy that was available

Pittsburgh is making the playoffs

I don't even think the market has one of these guys unfortunately.

There must be some names we haven't thought about.