Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[McTonyBrar]

He and they might be playing it very close to the Vest.

I think Kane is out until like halfway through the playoffs

What is really going to happen is we are going to ride or die with Skinner and Picard.

It sounds like Gibson is not a target.

No one even said this. Even Seravalli didn’t say “no”. All he said was Kane may be back before the deadline. I guarantee he won’t be

 

[McTonyBrar]

Saravalli slamming the brakes on Oiler trade deadline situation is a major eye opener. My own speculation is he's hearing directly from Kane and his agent about intention to come back before the regular season ends.

This situation has always been beyond team control. Why Bowman has always been cautious and noncommittal about Kane's situation. He can't intrude or risk collusion calls by the league and frankly a potential player grievance from the NHLPA if Kane felt he was being pressured. Kane is a player (person) who doesn't passively toe the company line or conforms to external pressures. He's driven by his deep belief in himself and ego that he can be a difference maker for this team. I have zero doubt his singular focus is on returning asap whether or not that align's with a perceived team benefit to wipe out this regular season to bulk up roster vulnerabilities.

The Oilers are dancing on the head of a pin while other key prospective opponents appear to have greater clarity and means to bulk up with the upcoming deadline arms race. A tricky situation that could have a major effect on chasing the Cup.

Dude SERAVALLI has no clue wtf is going on. Even Stauffer has no clue wtf is going on with him.

Fat Frankie doesn’t know shit

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Dude SERAVALLI has no clue wtf is going on. Even Stauffer has no clue wtf is going on with him.

Fat Frankie doesn’t know shit

Lol. Seravalli is deeply connected and actually substantiates what he hears with likely the deepest rolodex in the gossip business since Bob McKenzie left. There's a reason HyBOBle defers to him when not interrupting the guy in their interviews. Stauffer is a local bullshitter who throws poop against the wall usually through his lens of outdated attributes and opinions of what's required to win. Hockey Operations wisely has a firewall between their work and an extended member of their organization's PR group. lmao.

 

[foshizzle]

So why the f*** to do I care? Skinner has flaws, I've said this. It has nothing to do with Campbell with being utterly unplayable.

You guys don't need to re-invent to past to be mad at Stu, just be mad at Stu. Like what the f***. Jack Campbell was trash his entire time in Edmonton save for like a several minutes against the Kings. It's why he's not here and we should stop pretending he was anything other than a failure.

lol- thank you for saying Jack was crap when he was putting up similar numbers to Stu. Stu is also crap

 

[McTonyBrar]

Lol. Seravalli is deeply connected and actually substantiates what he hears with likely the deepest rolodex in the gossip business since Bob McKenzie left. There's a reason HyBOBle defers to him when not interrupting the guy in their interviews. Stauffer is a local bullshitter who throws poop against the wall usually through his lens of outdated attributes and opinions of what's required to win. Hockey Operations wisely has a firewall between their work and an extended member of their organization's PR group. lmao.

I don’t understand how Seravalli would know about this. We havent heard Friedman say anything related to this either. The only place Seravalli assumed this stupid stance is on that dumb oilersnation podcast

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

That would be unfortunate for a guy that has already bankrupted himself once due to his gambling addiction.

Yeah I hope that’s not true. Stupid decision by him if it is, but also sad because it’s an addiction that’s being pushed EVERYWHERE the past few years. Sick of it personally

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I don’t understand how Seravalli would know about this. We havent heard Friedman say anything related to this either. The only place Seravalli assumed this stupid stance is on that dumb oilersnation podcast

First and foremost, it doesn't mean this will happen. He only speculates it might be possible with a source or sources supporting that Kane might be fit to return in regular season.

The biggest source for rumours are player agents. Both Kane and his agent have utilized media relationships to get their perspectives at varying times out into public domain. When Friedman reported an unnamed Oiler claimed they 'broke' the Flames with the massive playoff win that spun into the Flamers rebuild off season, I would bet money that was Kane. He's cocky confident, big ego, and loves the limelight.

I'd personally guess Seravalli talked with Kane's agent and maybe the player. Might have got a rosy, optimistic picture of the player's recovery. Team wise, Bowman has always had to hedge that they don't know when Kane will be back but can't rule out being back before end of season.

Bottom line is Seravalli has earned his bones as a six year national insider on TSN and as a longstanding newspaper guy who qualifies his information with sources. He's pretty measured and even keel with his reportage. He's built, earned, and trades on his credibility.

Ultimately we'll have to wait and see. This is a significant medical situation from the get go largely driven by the player's decision making.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

The OILERS got to Game 7 of the finals, in SPITE of him.

Sarcasm my man lol

I will agree with my pundits. We lost for 2 reasons

Skinner is just an overall Sieve.

Our top stars did not produce when it mattered the most. They carry the water here though, but I can agree with that as well.

I trust our top guys producing consistently over Swiss Cheese randomly improving his atrocious playoff stats. Big boy shave a great track record

Big boy in net..Not so much

 

[CanadasTeam99]

If yall go visit the River Cree Resort and Casino, you will find Kane gambling in the high limit private rooms. He's been going there the last couple weeks.

That would not be good considering his past addiction. You better have control over that and a lot of disposable income. I personally do not find anything positive about going to a casino unless it is a one off here and there

 

[McHelpus]

If yall go visit the River Cree Resort and Casino, you will find Kane gambling in the high limit private rooms. He's been going there the last couple weeks.

I remember a video of Oilers traveling during the finals and they asked what everyone does to kill time, Kane is always playing poker.

 

[alphahelix]

First and foremost, it doesn't mean this will happen. He only speculates it might be possible with a source or sources supporting that Kane might be fit to return in regular season.

The biggest source for rumours are player agents. Both Kane and his agent have utilized media relationships to get their perspectives at varying times out into public domain. When Friedman reported an unnamed Oiler claimed they 'broke' the Flames with the massive playoff win that spun into the Flamers rebuild off season, I would bet money that was Kane. He's cocky confident, big ego, and loves the limelight.

I'd personally guess Seravalli talked with Kane's agent and maybe the player. Might have got a rosy, optimistic picture of the player's recovery. Team wise, Bowman has always had to hedge that they don't know when Kane will be back but can't rule out being back before end of season.

Bottom line is Seravalli has earned his bones as a six year national insider on TSN and as a longstanding newspaper guy who qualifies his information with sources. He's pretty measured and even keel with his reportage. He's built, earned, and trades on his credibility.

Ultimately we'll have to wait and see. This is a significant medical situation from the get go largely driven by the player's decision making.

When Frank Seravalli is slumming it on the ghetto-ass OILERSNATION podcast he tends to bullshit and speculate more than we hes on TSN, and also —- you’re completely wrong about who has the deepest Rolodex in the league. It’s guys like Friedman, guys like Lebrun, etc… Seravalli is 2nd tier. And nobody knows more than Bob Stauffer about the Edmonton Oilers. He literally has known everything that has ever happened with this org before it happens for over a decade. He is in the lunchroom, dawg. (All day long by the look of him). He works with the Oilers. There are some things hes allowed to say and postulate and ‘speculate’ on, and some things he isn’t — but if you haven’t noticed how in-tune with the Oilers Stauffer is you haven’t been paying attention at all. He has more access than anyone with this org. He might get a bit out of his depth speculating what other orgs are doing and asking for, but he knows what the Oilers are thinking.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I just remembered that the season we signed campbell and he shit the bed so bad that we forced skinner to be our starter....that campbell actually outplayed skinner that year in the playoffs. iN 4 GAMES CAMPS HAD A .961S% AND 1.01 G.A.A Skinner was pulled 4 times in 12 games. that's a LOT! And Skins sported a .883s% 3.68g.a.a

I remember he looked ok in pre season. Then I go to game 1, season opener against VAN, and oh boy. TJ Miller rips a shot from the left side. Ep40 or some other softy score from behind the net. What a sh** show. I think we ended up winning the game and coming back.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Every time I see Bob I think it's some hobo wearing a sloppy suit he found in a Value Village dumpster.

Health is wealth. Unless it is some mental thing, I do not know how you let yourself go so much, AND you are on TV.

Just get a calorie deficit going. Hit the treadmill. Workout. Go into a deep deficit if you have to for a month. 1000 calories. Lose 8-10 pounds a month for 1-2. Then get used to the lifestyle and taper it off. Go 500 deficit.

Burn a sh** ton of calories. Go swimming. You can still eat a ton in the evening and still be in a deficit. Lose it slowly if you want. Anybody that is overweight and "can't lose weight" should learn how to count calories and buy a cheap food scale. Unless you have some thyroid issue.

It's not that difficult. You can still eat a lot of stuff you used to. Have to volume eat as well.

Ok, back on topic....

 

[CanadasTeam99]

If yall go visit the River Cree Resort and Casino, you will find Kane gambling in the high limit private rooms. He's been going there the last couple weeks.

How high do their limits go?

My buddy and I keep our bankroll in Vegas. I don't withdraw it. taxes, etc as well. I've had up to 55K on the line in a hand of Texas hold Em. I don't gamble much though. Maybe 3 times a year. I don't ever visit Casinos here. Only in Vegas. It's fun when you go. Drinks are free. Room is free. Everything is free. I sincerely hope this guy is not going there. Dumbest move he could make.

I would trade Kane for a 7th rounder if he wants to come back early. Bye bye Kaner (and I like him)

 

[Liberated]

When Frank Seravalli is slumming it on the ghetto-ass OILERSNATION podcast he tends to bullshit and speculate more than we hes on TSN, and also —- you’re completely wrong about who has the deepest Rolodex in the league. It’s guys like Friedman, guys like Lebrun, etc… Seravalli is 2nd tier. And nobody knows more than Bob Stauffer about the Edmonton Oilers. He literally has known everything that has ever happened with this org before it happens for over a decade. He is in the lunchroom, dawg. (All day long by the look of him). He works with the Oilers. There are some things hes allowed to say and postulate and ‘speculate’ on, and some things he isn’t — but if you haven’t noticed how in-tune with the Oilers Stauffer is you haven’t been paying attention at all. He has more access than anyone with this org. He might get a bit out of his depth speculating what other orgs are doing and asking for, but he knows what the Oilers are thinking.

Yup, I'm a big fan of Bob as well as an Oilers insider and it is interesting how he often knows more than the actual insiders. Elliot Friedman every once in awhile gives Bob probs and admits that Bod is very connected if you can read between the lines. Frank S comes off as someone who is TRYING to be an insider. A little bit of role playing with him I feel.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Yup, I'm a big fan of Bob as well as an Oilers insider and it is interesting how he often knows more than the actual insiders. Elliot Friedman every once in awhile gives Bob probs and admits that Bod is very connected if you can read between the lines. Frank S comes off as someone who is TRYING to be an insider. A little bit of role playing with him I feel.

Nobody beats Bob to me. When you have a direct text to the owner, everybody else is meh

Otherwise, Frank S is very connected. It's weird, he is from Philly. American. He seems like an Oilers homer on air overall. He must have loved it here.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

When Frank Seravalli is slumming it on the ghetto-ass OILERSNATION podcast he tends to bullshit and speculate more than we hes on TSN, and also —- you’re completely wrong about who has the deepest Rolodex in the league. It’s guys like Friedman, guys like Lebrun, etc… Seravalli is 2nd tier. And nobody knows more than Bob Stauffer about the Edmonton Oilers. He literally has known everything that has ever happened with this org before it happens for over a decade. He is in the lunchroom, dawg. (All day long by the look of him). He works with the Oilers. There are some things hes allowed to say and postulate and ‘speculate’ on, and some things he isn’t — but if you haven’t noticed how in-tune with the Oilers Stauffer is you haven’t been paying attention at all. He has more access than anyone with this org. He might get a bit out of his depth speculating what other orgs are doing and asking for, but he knows what the Oilers are thinking.

Seravalli worked at TSN under and alongside McKenzie. There's no one more connected and the Seattle expansion draft is just one example. TSN coverage and talent blows the doors off Sportsnet in every respect. I'd probably say Friedman is the only guy near Seravalli for their network but he's slipped into trying to be the too cool for school guy trying to build a hipster brand. Lebrun is second tier - he's more tapped into NHL league and CBA stuff.

Stauffer throws shit out all the time. Most recently with the goofy Brandon Saad stuff. It's easy to see his thought pattern making connections like Bowman and Saad then pitching it with goofy cryptical stuff that rarely turns out. Said he had no idea Ekholm was on the market meanwhile Seravalli (who called him on it) had covered Ekholm as a featured trade candidate back in January. There were reports in Nashville market and beyond for several seasons Ekholm could be a trade candidate. Was never going to be given away though. He famously had a meltdown when Holloway was drafted. Missed an epic once-in-a-lifetime NHL Draft in Vegas because he had no idea the team would trade up for a first round pick. Lots of bluster, self-congratulatory forever memory on rare stuff he gets, and the high volume bullshitting stuff evaporates into the digital ether never to be referenced again.

He's basically named off all the current known trade deadline d-prospects blowing smoke on Ristolainen, moving on to Provorov, Matheson, etc. covering all the basis. Did his cryptic goofiness a couple years back hinting with UFA Severson, 'a good Western Canadian kid' to sign in the West and losing a bet badly with Seravalli on the term and dollar amount. The guy throws high volume of crap against the wall. A little bit sticks every once in a great long while. Though probably not his classic comparison of Nurse to Larry Robinson. Classic!

 

[Zerotonine]

Man ill be so pissed at this team if they ignore goaltending again. We will lose by the second round fk me

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Man ill be so pissed at this team if they ignore goaltending again. We will lose by the second round fk me

I guess one can only hope, they you'll be correct in your rage.

I expect they explore doing something with the goaltending, whether or not is comes together is another matter. It's a tougher deal to do at the deadline v. the offseason. I don't like it either, but it's just the reality of this. Trading for a forward is different that getting a goalie.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Man ill be so pissed at this team if they ignore goaltending again. We will lose by the second round fk me

you may need these

 

[foshizzle]

When Frank Seravalli is slumming it on the ghetto-ass OILERSNATION podcast he tends to bullshit and speculate more than we hes on TSN, and also —- you’re completely wrong about who has the deepest Rolodex in the league. It’s guys like Friedman, guys like Lebrun, etc… Seravalli is 2nd tier. And nobody knows more than Bob Stauffer about the Edmonton Oilers. He literally has known everything that has ever happened with this org before it happens for over a decade. He is in the lunchroom, dawg. (All day long by the look of him). He works with the Oilers. There are some things hes allowed to say and postulate and ‘speculate’ on, and some things he isn’t — but if you haven’t noticed how in-tune with the Oilers Stauffer is you haven’t been paying attention at all. He has more access than anyone with this org. He might get a bit out of his depth speculating what other orgs are doing and asking for, but he knows what the Oilers are thinking.

Stauff isn’t as connected as he once was. He now just throws stuff against the wall. He hasn’t called a trade in years. He knows about the signings that happen that haven’t been made public- but even then- he will wait for the official announcement “expect something to come out in the next 15 mins”.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Stauff isn’t as connected as he once was. He now just throws stuff against the wall. He hasn’t called a trade in years. He knows about the signings that happen that haven’t been made public- but even then- he will wait for the official announcement “expect something to come out in the next 15 mins”.

It makes sense in both respects, because his focus is working for the team, so he likely doesn't make as many contacts because he's providing different entertainment and he would have knowledge of the signings because of proximity. I do suspect he has an idea who the team might be looking at.

 

[foshizzle]

Man I’ll be so pissed at this team if they ignore goaltending again. We will lose by the second round fk me

just watched the highlights from the playoffs. Skinner was hot garbage in rounds 1 and 2. Oilers got lucky they played the kings, who couldn’t kill a penalty, and the canucks, who could barely get 20 shots a game. If they need to yank Skinner again- it’ll be against Colorado or Vegas. Oilers aren’t going to survive that. If that is the risk the Oilers are willing to take on both their cup chances and McDavid leaving- well that’s on them.

Side note- I forgot how much of a beast Holloway was. He scored some huge goals
In that run.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Stauff isn’t as connected as he once was. He now just throws stuff against the wall. He hasn’t called a trade in years. He knows about the signings that happen that haven’t been made public- but even then- he will wait for the official announcement “expect something to come out in the next 15 mins”.

I don't understand what makes you think he's not as connected as before

 

[McDoused]

Just want to point out that Seravalli broke the Rantanen trade. Fans can disagree with him but he's definitely connected.