Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[Jimmi McJenkins]

The 2 starting goalie names I go back to are

UP Luukkonen and John Gibson

Luukkonen is younger, on a good deal, but has far less experience, largely unproven.

Gibson would have to come with some kind of discount, has all the experience, but what does he have left?

Obviously they can explore the starting position in the offseason instead, but if you're going to do it now, it's probably one of these 2, unless you can get Saros out of NSH.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

As long as Dustin Schwartz remains with the team goaltending will always be a question.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

As long as Dustin Schwartz remains with the team goaltending will always be a question.

How do get the word out, outside of the market, about this nonsense? Like get it talked about TNT and the NHL network? Not even a call to fire him, just asking why he's skated for so long.

This isn't a joke, more noise needs to exist.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

How do get the word out, outside of the market, about this nonsense? Like get it talked about TNT and the NHL network? Not even a call to fire him, just asking why he's skated for so long.

This isn't a joke, more noise needs to exist.

I asked Gregor years ago on Twitter why he was still employed and he gave the usual “he’s a great guy in the room” or whatever half baked answer. If Katz wants a Cup (and I’m not convinced he does), he cans this loser.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Gregor, albeit, does support lots of charities, he also has an ignorant side of him where he will NEVER admit he's wrong. Question him on Twitter, and he will say "That's not what I said" and just keep fighting you until either 1 of 2 things happens:

1. You stop posting stuff at him and he wins the argument

2. Blocks you so you cannot see him anymore.

He's an ass.

Yep total Jerk off. Thats his shtick.

I remember for the first few years of his radio show he was a die hard Dolphins fan. Then the Chiefs started to win and he jumped on th bandwagon and to this day refuses to acknowledge he was ever a Dolphins fan.

 

[VeteranPresence]

How do get the word out, outside of the market, about this nonsense? Like get it talked about TNT and the NHL network? Not even a call to fire him, just asking why he's skated for so long.

This isn't a joke, more noise needs to exist.

One word: billboards. Not even kidding at this point.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

One word: billboards. Not even kidding at this point.

Lowe is still with the team. Unless the building is half empty ownership won’t do jack. They saw the revenue that fans generated and decided everything was fine. I look forward to more waiver wire pickups and castoffs.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Lowe is still with the team. Unless the building is half empty ownership won’t do jack. They saw the revenue that fans generated and decided everything was fine. I look forward to more waiver wire pickups and castoffs.

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So Schwartz took over for Fredrick Chabot, who's the goalie coach in Minnesota, and he's clearly done better there.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Right now our top 6 Is a mess. Arvidsson, Skinner, Podkolzin, Hyman are the current 4 wingers. (you could toss Nuge in there, same crap tho, hasn't been good)


The wingers are not even close to good enough.

There is a clear chemistry issue as we can't get Arvidsson going at all and truthfully will Skinner even last up there?

Our top 6 wingers are so bad I don't know how this isn't addressed. Maybe just maybe adding 1 top 6 player can help slot everything better into place.

 

[Mr Positive]

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So Schwartz took over for Fredrick Chabot, who's the goalie coach in Minnesota, and he's clearly done better there.

That last bit tells me that the issue is most likely that the Oilers just don't give Schwartz much to work with. The proof that he isn't good is only a few goaltenders underperforming.

For instance, Chabot has had 5 different goalies to work with in Minnesota, a couple were duds. Minnesota is an organization that believes in goaltending. It's not voodoo to them. It's real. They bring in Fluery and Talbot. They draft Wallstedt. They trade for Kahkonen. They trade for Gustavsson. It's an organic process of trying things, and making thoughtful decisions.

Our big swing was Campbell. A totally thoughtless and stupid gamble. Also signing Pickard out of a bargain bin, which is a win but it's aiming low and hitting that mark.

Our pride in our goaltending comes from how little cap space we spend. Yippee

 

[Ritchie Valens]

That last bit tells me that the issue is most likely that the Oilers just don't give Schwartz much to work with. The proof that he isn't good is only a few goaltenders underperforming.

For instance, Chabot has had 5 different goalies to work with in Minnesota, a couple were duds. Minnesota is an organization that believes in goaltending. It's not voodoo to them. It's real. They bring in Fluery and Talbot. They draft Wallstedt. They trade for Kahkonen. They trade for Gustavsson. It's an organic process of trying things, and making thoughtful decisions.

Our big swing was Campbell. A totally thoughtless and stupid gamble. Also signing Pickard out of a bargain bin, which is a win but it's aiming low and hitting that mark.

Our pride in our goaltending comes from how little cap space we spend. Yippee

You’re forgetting how Mike Smith ditched Schwartz after his stats dropped here and hired his is own guy in the offseason. Then his numbers went up.

Blame is shared all around.

Scouting/drafting/developing
Schwartz
Management for investing so little time & energy in the most important position on the ice (tunnel vision) and smashing a round peg into a square hole to prove they were right in the end.
The goalies themselves just aren’t good enough or fast enough or focused enough (Skinner). You’d think Smith would have taught him the focused part. He & Roloson were two of the most dialed in goalies I’ve seen in an Oilers jersey. Skinner is at the rave inside his own head 95% of the time.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Our top 6 wingers are so bad I don't know how this isn't addressed. Maybe just maybe adding 1 top 6 player can help slot everything better into place.

I think we could get by with just one actual top six winger:

RNH-McD-Hyman
?-Drai-Arvidsson

The trick is that player MUST be better than RV, making him the sixth best player in the rotation. I don’t think we would mind him as much then, and he’d get to disappear in the play more which is what makes him so effective. It’s a short list of options for ? though.

What do we with the mess that is Podz, Henrique, Perry, Skinner, Brown, Kane, Kap, etc.? I dunno, but Bowman caused it so it’s job to fix it.

 

[brentashton]

Skinner is at the rave inside his own head 95% of the time.

Unfortunately at Stu’s rave, this is the only song playing

 

[Ritchie Valens]

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So Schwartz took over for Fredrick Chabot, who's the goalie coach in Minnesota, and he's clearly done better there.

He had Dubnyk though, who was Skinner level here. When Dubnyk got dealt to Nashville, Mitch Korn said he had so many fundamental flaws in his game, he couldn’t fix them and Dubnyk was dealt to Montreal.

So maybe Chabot invested in some training techniques and abandoned whatever that was he was coaching Dubnyk after getting canned here because I can’t see him sticking with what got him fired and having success somewhere else.

 

[Fourier]

I think that Skinner is approaching the point where management will have to address his inconsistency.

That last bit tells me that the issue is most likely that the Oilers just don't give Schwartz much to work with. The proof that he isn't good is only a few goaltenders underperforming.

For instance, Chabot has had 5 different goalies to work with in Minnesota, a couple were duds. Minnesota is an organization that believes in goaltending. It's not voodoo to them. It's real. They bring in Fluery and Talbot. They draft Wallstedt. They trade for Kahkonen. They trade for Gustavsson. It's an organic process of trying things, and making thoughtful decisions.

Our big swing was Campbell. A totally thoughtless and stupid gamble. Also signing Pickard out of a bargain bin, which is a win but it's aiming low and hitting that mark.

Our pride in our goaltending comes from how little cap space we spend. Yippee

When the team does not perform well the head coach and often most of his staff gets canned. We have certainly seen this over and over with this team. Why would the goalie coach be the one guy to avoid consequences? Because the GM did not provide him with quality to work with? If this was a valid explanation for the goalie coach why would it not also apply to every other coach?

 

[McShogun99]

Just for a fun, a bonkers, NBA styled true blockbuster deal if Rantanen isn't working out well in Carolina:

Evan Bouchard + Viktor Arvidsson for Mikko Rantanen + Taylor Hall @50% retained

EDM 1st 2026 + STL 2nd + Matt Savoie for Noah Dobson

That first deal is so bad for a rental. Despite his warts, Bouchard should be virtually untouchable.

 

[Echodek]

Pull the trigger on a damn goalie now and let him get accustomed to the organization and city during the 4 Nations, so he’s ready to go once regular season play resumes.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He had Dubnyk though, who was Skinner level here. When Dubnyk got dealt to Nashville, Mitch Korn said he had so many fundamental flaws in his game, he couldn’t fix them and Dubnyk was dealt to Montreal.

So maybe Chabot invested in some training techniques and abandoned whatever that was he was coaching Dubnyk after getting canned here because I can’t see him sticking with what got him fired here.

I don't think Chabot was coaching there then, he got hired as a developmental goalie coach in 2020, but look at who's had NHL success since he's been through. Kakonen (at least in Minny), Gustavson right now.

And that all makes sense.

Like in the end fire Schwartz to DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I don't think Chabot was coaching there then, he got hired as a developmental goalie coach in 2020, but look at who's had NHL success since he's been through. Kakonen (at least in Minny), Gustavson right now.

And that all makes sense.

Like in the end fire Schwartz to DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I’m quite sure he was because the knives were out for him too.

I’m fully on board with Schwartz getting canned, not one goalie has had long term success working with him. He’s not part of the solution which makes him part of the problem.

Edit: Chabot was here from 09-14, same as Dubnyk’s tenure.

Double edit: I think we got our wires crossed-lol. I was talking during Dubnyk’s early days as an Oiler, then he changed his game and became a good goalie in AZ (kudos to him). I don’t think he worked under Chabot for a second time either in Minny.

 

[Soundwave]

Think you do consider moving Arvidsson at the deadline. He just hasn't been good enough here.

There's just not many attractive forward options this deadline it feels like.

 

[TB12]

That’s rough for the Jets. Chevaldayoff deserves some praise for the job hes done there.

I'm in Winnipeg for work right now and don't doubt that player poll. I know Edmonton isn't the best but Winnipeg is straight up gross. No offense to my Wpg friends.

 

[TB12]

I am DONE with this goaltending

about time you came to your senses on Moustache haha

 

[VeteranPresence]

Pull the trigger on a damn goalie now and let him get accustomed to the organization and city during the 4 Nations, so he’s ready to go once regular season play resumes.

We don’t do proactive here, only panic moves when it’s beyond obvious something is wrong.

See: Sakic and McFarland shocking the hockey world with the Rantanen trade. If it was Stan he would have waited until it leaked to the media that Drai was heading to FA before even entertaining a trade.

 

[Soundwave]

That first deal is so bad for a rental. Despite his warts, Bouchard should be virtually untouchable.

Obviously we would extend Rantanen.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

Unfortunately at Stu’s rave, this is the only song playing