Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Doesn't that tweet say he's not going down for a conditioning stint?

Nevermind, can't read on Friday morning it seems. They really should do that.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

So they have decided to do this, I think it's a very good idea. Well done from the organization.


You absolutely called it. Well played.

He’s not going to the AHL for a conditioning stint.

 

[Canovin]

Oilers don't have any real major holes outside of goalie. It's worth spending a little more and getting some luxury.

 

[MuzzaFuzza]

I still think, regardless of what he's saying, he'll want to make his mark on the team with a splash trade at the deadline. A "WOWY" type trade (rational or not)

I also think with Cap limitations, LTIR, etc he'll know he only has one big shot. I'm thinking a big name.

I just can't see him, now being back in the league after a few years, just tinkering. I think Bowman will want to show his "value" to the org.

I could be wrong (just ask my wife) but it wouldn't surprise me to see a deadline Rantanen, Karlsson, shocking name happen. In my opinion he's been too quiet up till now, and will take a BIG shot at the deadline.

Could be, I never expected him to make his intentions 100% clear in an article but I really hope it’s a smoke screen.

Regarding a forward at least, I really don’t think goaltending is on their radar AT ALL

I'm honestly fine with our defence. One more depth defender is fine. Bowman didn't say anything about improving the front?

I don’t mind our defence either outside of maybe a depth defender (which they did bring up in the article).

Re: forwards, seems like they really want to beef up the bottom 6 with size. Jordan Greenway’s name was brought up. Though not by Bowman directly. They did mention it depends on where Nuge lined up. If they have him down the middle, they may look to add a wing. And vice versa

 

[GhostfaceWu]

This one is right up there with "The Oilers will have the worst prospect pool in the NHL if they trade more prospects!!!1"

Who gives a shit

Lol what how does potentially paying two dman 9 million plus at the same time mcdavid needs a new contract work exactly?

 

[Bobieque]

Could be, I never expected him to make his intentions 100% clear in an article but I really hope it’s a smoke screen.

Regarding a forward at least, I really don’t think goaltending is on their radar AT ALL


I don’t mind our defence either outside of maybe a depth defender (which they did bring up in the article).

Re: forwards, seems like they really want to beef up the bottom 6 with size. Jordan Greenway’s name was brought up. Though not by Bowman directly. They did mention it depends on where Nuge lined up. If they have him down the middle, they may look to add a wing. And vice versa

Oh, I know you weren't putting it out as your full opinion, I apologize if that's how I came across. Appreciate that you brought the article up and made me aware of it.

Yes, I don't think Goaltending is on their mind at all.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Dobson would be a terrific get. Lou loves his grinder/mucker types (see him wanting to extend Nelson over keeping a stud young D) so I'd offer 1st + O'Reilly + to make it happen. Would instantly button up the right side for years to come.

Probably cost Emberson and Savoie

 

[oXo Cube]

Lol what how does potentially paying two dman 9 million plus at the same time mcdavid needs a new contract work exactly?

Well first of all it's not the same time, McDavid doesn't need a new contract until after next season. The combination of a rapidly rising salary cap and significant dead weight coming off of the books would make it pretty easily workable.

There are multiple posts in this thread demonstrating ways the team could fit a 14M contract for Rantanen. 9M for Dobson wouldn't be a challenge and you could even consider just bridging him if it is.

Probably cost Emberson and Savoie

A forward not playing for the Oilers and a defender who is fine but the definition of just a guy? Done easily.

 

[Messrules11]

Well first of all it's not the same time, McDavid doesn't need a new contract until after next season. The combination of a rapidly rising salary cap and significant dead weight coming off of the books would make it pretty easily workable.

There are multiple posts in this thread demonstrating ways the team could fit a 14M contract for Rantanen. 9M for Dobson wouldn't be a challenge and you could even consider just bridging him if it is.



A forward not playing for the Oilers and a defender who is fine but the definition of just a guy? Done easily.

Adding Rantanen and Dobson would look great, until you look at our goalies anyway

 

[FlameChampion]

Lebrun’s new article interviewing Bowman will surely have some people upset, he seems to be VERY content with running our back end as is, including Skinner/Pickard… can’t say I agree but they better be planning a big move up front then. Even that seems to be contingent on where Nuge plays..

The team is in an interesting spot. There are strengths in their actual stats and their analytical stats. This is a very good team. But you can cherry pick whatever stats you want to make a case to fit a narrative.

It’s probably smart for Bowman to not announce what his plan is. I hope they are looking at everything though. The goaltending, defense and forwards could all be improved. Adding a piece that moves the needle regardless of the position is probably better than side grades.

That being said, as a fan it does kinda suck to not have any kind of indication about what they are thinking or planning to do. I still don’t know much I trust our pro scouts or analytics staff.

I personally think running the same goaltending tandem is incredibly risky though. But I don’t really know whos all available, what it costs, etc.

I will say that I hate spending prime assets on rentals though. If you’re going to spend, target someone who’s going to help now and in future seasons.

 

[Canovin]

Adding Rantanen and Dobson would look great, until you look at our goalies anyway

As leaky as Stuart can be, Rantanen and Dobson would put the Oilers over the top. We would have the puck 80% of the game

 

[Mr Positive]

Fair points.
I am not really a fan of Stecher though...he is too small...gets pushed around on the cycle and net front.
I wouldnt want anything more than spot duty for him in the playoffs even Knoblauc decides to go with 7 D,
Hopefully Klingberg continues to improve enough to be a steady #4 dman. That would be huge.

Then the pairings are...

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Klingberg
Emberson - Kulak

Im fine with that and then the team can focus on some functional heaviness in the bottom 6...preferably at center.
The secondary scoring is a major concern though...that needs to improve.

Stecher is a puck mover, and he can burn any team that underestimates him. I could see adding a tough Dman as an extra, but realistically would they even be as good as Desharnais was? And Desharnais was scratched when the opposition got difficult. Ultimately the modern NHL is about puck moving and skating deep in the playoffs

I can see though, that our general lack of toughness will be a weakness. Apparently we were in on Drew O'Connor, and the early returns on him for Vancouver are good, which tells me that our management and pro scouting are good. That type of bottom sixer is what we need. I'm assuming our top six is set, with Kane as an addition there.

The Oilers really dont need a big swing, and shouldn't do a big swing. However that assumes Klingberg pans out.

We should hold off on any costly moves till the deadline. There's a lot in the air right now. We will need a little more clarity on Klingberg and Kane

 

[Messrules11]

As leaky as Stuart can be, Rantanen and Dobson would put the Oilers over the top. We would have the puck 80% of the game

If your going to blow 20m on these guys while running with Skinner it makes no sense to me.

 

[FlameChampion]

I think he costs significantly more than Ekholm. Way younger, 70pt season under his belt, and while he doesn't have term, he is an RFA so you are still guaranteed to atleast get some picks if he leaves.

Ek was what, 1st+Schaefer? Give or take as there was also some lower picks and Barrie. I think you can add basically a 1st+2nd to that. I still do it though.

He would cost more for sure. But I think guys like Savoie or Akey or SOR are better prospects than Schaeffer was. These types of trades are generally less than what some people think they will be.

As much as I’d love to keep Savoie I would much rather trade a 1st + Savoie + whatever for Dobson than a 1st + whatever for Connor Murphy for example.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Oilers don't have any real major holes outside of goalie. It's worth spending a little more and getting some luxury.

Lol our wingers have no speed. They hardly score. That's a major hole

 

[Canovin]

If your going to blow 20m on these guys while running with Skinner it makes no sense to me.

If we blow 20M on Rantanen and Dobson, we most likely can't afford Stuart extension which is a good thing.

 

[McDoused]

We have an old slow forward core that really lacks scoring outside of Mcdrai.

With Klingberg taking the #4 spot I don't know why we keep talking about adding defence. (we just need a number 7 LHD)

People have been saying this all year and its just not true.

 

[Messrules11]

If we blow 20M on Rantanen and Dobson, we most likely can't afford Stuart extension which is a good thing.

Haha, ya. But who is our goalie then?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Haha, ya. But who is our goalie then?

Connor Ingram?

 

[oXo Cube]

If your going to blow 20m on these guys while running with Skinner it makes no sense to me.

Well I'm not trying to add both, though maybe in theory you could. If Rantanen doesn't work out in Carolina and they're looking to recoup assets at the deadline I would be very interested in adding him as a pure rental.

The frustrating thing about the goaltending is I don't view the problem as expensive or difficult to fix. Just throw Utah St. Louis' 2nd for Vejmelka and I'd be good with it there.

 

[Fourier]

It probably starts with 2x1st and one of our best prospects

I probably pay it as Knob and Coffey could bring out the best in Dobson

If you look at the price in isolation it is a lot, though I think 2 1st's plus maybe a b prospect is closer to reality. I don't think you would be talking about Savoie, O'Reilly or Akey as an add on. But he is an RFA with two more years of team control. Nothing would stop you from trading him in the off season to recoup much of the value. It's a bit of a risk but if the Oilers went deep and he had a good playoff you have a really valuable asset. You may get a better 1st and equivalent prospect for him at the draft. In the end he could be a cheaper rental than guys who are much less skilled.

 

[Messrules11]

Well I'm not trying to add both, though maybe in theory you could. If Rantanen doesn't work out in Carolina and they're looking to recoup assets at the deadline I would be very interested in adding him as a pure rental.

The frustrating thing about the goaltending is I don't view the problem as expensive or difficult to fix. Just throw Utah St. Louis' 2nd for Vejmelka and I'd be good with it there.

Well we’ve seen other orgs win cups with “average” goalies but I’ve never seen the Oilers do it. The style we play begs for a goalie that can save your bacon.

 

[soothsayer]

I think there is something to be said about not blowing up a roster.

It never works well when you make a ton of changes. Our Defence has been great this year. No need to trade Emberson.

I don't think trading Emberson would constitute "blowing up" the roster. Especially not for a legitimate number 2, 20+ minute a night defenseman.

 

[Canovin]

If you look at the price in isolation it is a lot, though I think 2 1st's plus maybe a b prospect is closer to reality. I don't think you would be talking about Savoie, O'Reilly or Akey as an add on. But he is an RFA with two more years of team control. Nothing would stop you from trading him in the off season to recoup much of the value. It's a bit of a risk but if the have Oilers went deep and he had a good playoff you have a really valuable asset. You may get a better 1st and equivalent prospect for him at the draft. In the end he could be a cheaper rental than guys who are much less skilled.

If we are trading for Dobson, we shouldn't trade him. He's a cornerstone piece if we work with him. He has the potential to play above Bouchard.

Bouchard, Dobson, Klingberg and Emberson on the right side would set up the Oilers for years.

Definitely would pay the 2x1sts, mid prospect everytime. Dobson is such a big name that will also help the Oilers attract more UFAs

 

[Oilers88]

Lebrun’s new article interviewing Bowman will surely have some people upset, he seems to be VERY content with running our back end as is, including Skinner/Pickard… can’t say I agree but they better be planning a big move up front then. Even that seems to be contingent on where Nuge plays..

I'm not putting a lot of stock into that kind of interview. Holland was very open with the media, and seemed fine to tell them exactly what he was doing. The Jackson/Bowman regime seem to be very much the opposite- they've been running a VERY tight ship in terms of keeping information out of the media. How many actual rumours have we heard about players the Oilers are interested in? Whether it's Seravalli, Friedman, or Lebrun, it feels like every time the Oilers come up, it's more speculation along the lines of "I think a player like this would be a great fit in Edmonton", rather than an actual insider rumour.

Bowman may very well be content with running their d as is, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he says that to Lebrun and then turns around and trades a first plus for Oleksiak tomorrow. I'm putting next to no stock in what he says publicly.