Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[North]

Worst part for me is there is absolutely 0 rumors or Mubbling about edmonton showing any interest in goalie upgrade

I'm fking speechless

I don’t think they’d really want rumours out there considering they don’t want to completely trash Skinner’s confidence.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Ugh the Drew O'Connor news is not encouraging. In my opinion, a bottom 6 winger is literally the thing we need least. In order of preference, under ideal circumstances:

1. Starting or tandem goalie
2. Second pair RD (if we need to upgrade on Klingberg)
3. Top-6 winger or center with finishing ability
4. Bottom-6 center
5. Veteran, depth defenseman (if we don't need an upgrade on Klingberg)
6. Bottom 6 winger

What O’Connor news?

 

[McDoused]

Big like on getting Frederic. God would he become a crowd favourite quick.

I was all aboard the Frederic train but im starting to less convinced. His stat line this year is 7-7-14 playing 14-15 minutes a night. Meanwhile Perry is 10-8-18 playing 10 minutes a night.

That's all fine because he seems like a playoff player but how much is that worth? I thought I heard fans say it will start with a 2nd as he has a lot of suitors. Also, his 2.3M cap hit might also be hard to squeeze in without retention. Hes also a UFA that might get paid 4M+ on the open market.

Just doesn't seem worth the cost.

What O’Connor news?

Frank said the Oilers were looking at him before Vancouver traded for him. He's big an fast and would add top our bottom 6.

 

[McDoused]

I don’t think they’d really want rumours out there considering they don’t want to completely trash Skinner’s confidence.

I was thinking this as well. We have a great analytics staff that has to know that goaltending has struggles relative to other teams.

Also just the way Knoblauch talks he referenced how he thought the team didn't play that poorly in the 1st period against Toronto. That scoring chances were even and then we took over in the second. He also didn't hate the penalty kill.

Its no secret that Skinner would have liked to have a couple back and he clearly knows that it was a rough game from Skinner but he still handled it in a positive way that doesn't hurt Skinner.

I dont actually hate Skinner (deapite wanting to trade him all the time). I just think he's way to inconsistent for a team with Stanley cup aspirations and want to be best in class at everything.

The data supports that he isn't good enough unless the rest of the team is perfect. We need to find a way to bewt other top teams and not just capitalize on winning games against teams lower in the standings.

 

[McTonyBrar]

I liked it because i enjoy your statements.

You actually think Kulak is a great top 4?

 

[McAsuno]

I was thinking this as well. We have a great analytics staff that has to know that goaltending has struggles relative to other teams.

Also just the way Knoblauch talks he referenced how he thought the team didn't play that poorly in the 1st period against Toronto. That scoring chances were even and then we took over in the second. He also didn't hate the penalty kill.

Its no secret that Skinner would have liked to have a couple back and he clearly knows that it was a rough game from Skinner but he still handled it in a positive way that doesn't hurt Skinner.

I dont actually hate Skinner (deapite wanting to trade him all the time). I just think he's way to inconsistent for a team with Stanley cup aspirations and want to be best in class at everything.

The data supports that he isn't good enough unless the rest of the team is perfect. We need to find a way to bewt other top teams and not just capitalize on winning games against teams lower in the standings.

Yep, we have Michael Parkatti | Edmonton Oilers employed. I bet he's the first guy that has said the Oilers need another goalie.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Nothing wrong with looking at xGF%. You want players who are going to help you more than hurt you.

Didn't you just make an argument for why goaltending is such an issue? Upgrading our teams sv% just slightly would increase our odds dramatically.

Also, if Klingberg works out we might not need to spend a lot of assets on defence. Maybe just a depth defender that can play PK.

I don't think that was me, and slightly increasing our team sv% does not increase our odds dramatically, it is measurable.

Like I said the gap between Bobrovsky (0.906 sv%) and Skinner (0.901 sv%) was roughly 3 more saves last playoffs and who knows when those 3 extra saves occur.

Contrasted against Nurse being -11 at 5 on 5 to the #3 D-man on FLA Montour who was +6 at 5 on 5, a 17 goal differential. (All situations actually has the identical 17 goal differential spread despite the differing special teams usage)

It's crazy more blame was assigned to Skinner making $2.6M versus a $10M goalie with bested him by a 3 goal differential in the playoffs, contrasted by Nurse making $9.25M who was bested by Montour making $3.5M by a 17 goal differential.

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As for Klingberg we have time to let things play out and it's not fair to pigeon hole him yet, but my initial impression are he will come up a bit short defensively to really cut it in a 2nd pairing role, but has the toolset to create an outscoring 3rd pairing with a responsible experienced d-partner like Kulak.