Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[Bryanbryoil]

The guy just got waived from a mediocre team and then contract terminated. I don't think he'll be making a lot of demands who he plays with no matter where he lands.

I'd also say that for everyone that ripped Bowman that if Saad wants to come here that at least part of that is because of Bowman and Duncan Keith.

 

[Spawn]

Announce Saad

Have a feeling he could find chem with McDavid, then Nuge can center the 3L

IIRC he needs to clear these new waivers before he can sign a deal.

 

[McShogun99]

The oilers should be running
Mcdavid-Draisaitl-Nuge-Henrique down the middle. Utilize the centre depth. Stack mcdrai in game if you need, but shouldn't be the default

It would be a nightmare for teams to match lines if we did that, especially if we add a right shot C that can play wing in the bottom six.

xxx-Mcdavid-Hyman
Podz-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
xxx-RNH-new RSC
Janmark-Rico-Brown

The xxx's can be filled in by Skinner, Kane, Perry, Kapanen, Saad (if rumors are true).

You could also move Brown to line 3 and play Philp as a RW on line 4 if he keeps improving.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

It also gives you a legit reason to go 11-7 when the situation calls for it. Being able to put Klingberg out in offensive situations and Emberson in defensive situations could be a big advantage if you're rolling 7 D.


To me that would be a huge mistake. One injury and you're rolling into the playoffs with the same D you started the year with, and you're relying on Klingberg to stay healthy and have no dip in performance. They should be bringing in a second pairing D regardless of how Klingberg pans out.

I agree with you 100 percent I would like Klingberg to be #7. I just don't know if that's what is happening here.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Yeah, it makes me cringe when folks take Emberson out of the lineup if the Oilers make a top 4 Dman add. No, Klingberg comes out of the lineup in that case, Emberson is rock solid in the lineup and he has the type of game that will show up well in the playoffs, he's getting better and better and is a legit NHL Dman. Lock him up now Stan.

The Oilers have their top 5 set, a strong top 5. Ekholm-Nurse-Bouchard-Kulak-Emberson. Everybody else will be rotating in that 6 spot and higher up if Klingberg works out or, more likely, the deadline add but those are the 5 the Oilers are going to war with on a Cup run no matter who they add.

Great post

 

[Soundwave]

The guy just got waived from a mediocre team and then contract terminated. I don't think he'll be making a lot of demands who he plays with no matter where he lands.

I think it's the opposite, he just basically forfeit a shit ton of cash (4.5 mill for next year on top of what he would have made this year?). Think he will want clarity on any team he goes to as to his role and having a chance to earn a contract that can make back the money lost. He will want to know from Bowman what his role here will be and frankly it's not that hard to see, none of the Arvidsson, JSkinner, or even Podkolzin are producing lights out, who knows if Kane even plays this season ... he probably is being told he will have a good chance at top 6 minutes.

Yeah, it makes me cringe when folks take Emberson out of the lineup if the Oilers make a top 4 Dman add. No, Klingberg comes out of the lineup in that case, Emberson is rock solid in the lineup and he has the type of game that will show up well in the playoffs, he's getting better and better and is a legit NHL Dman. Lock him up now Stan.

The Oilers have their top 5 set, a strong top 5. Ekholm-Nurse-Bouchard-Kulak-Emberson. Everybody else will be rotating in that 6 spot and higher up if Klingberg works out or, more likely, the deadline add but those are the 5 the Oilers are going to war with on a Cup run no matter who they add.

Meh, I don't get too attached to any of these role players. The systems play from Coffey/Knob is what makes the D corps hum alongside Ekholm playing like a legit no.1 D.

People getting caught up with role players like Emberson are like those who were crazy about Desharnais (and those people were quite loud early on in the season, they've shut up now that he's clearly bombing in Vancouver).

 

[McHelpus]

The only way I take out Emberson is if the upgrade is someone like Parayko.

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Parayko
Kulak - Klingberg

This defense has everything and Klingberg can be sheltered (like what Florida did with OEL)

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I think it's the opposite, he just basically forfeit a shit ton of cash (4.5 mill for next year on top of what he would have made this year?). Think he will want clarity on any team he goes to as to his role and having a chance to earn a contract that can make back the money lost. He will want to know from Bowman what his role here will be and frankly it's not that hard to see, none of the Arvidsson, JSkinner, or even Podkolzin are producing lights out, who knows if Kane even plays this season ... he probably is being told he will have a good chance at top 6 minutes.



Meh, I don't get too attached to any of these role players. The systems play from Coffey/Knob is what makes the D corps hum alongside Ekholm playing like a legit no.1 D.

People getting caught up with role players like Emberson are like those who were crazy about Desharnais (and those people were quite loud early on in the season, they've shut up now that he's clearly bombing in Vancouver).

Not really, getting solid depth performances is good, it makes the team cheaper. Desharnais ran into a wall as the playoffs progressed, Emberson skates and moves the puck much better so it shouldn't be an issue.

Also Vancouver, outside of Hughes, sucks, so it sort of stands a #5/6/7 defenseman will also suck.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

It would be a nightmare for teams to match lines if we did that, especially if we add a right shot C that can play wing in the bottom six.

xxx-Mcdavid-Hyman
Podz-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
xxx-RNH-new RSC
Janmark-Rico-Brown

The xxx's can be filled in by Skinner, Kane, Perry, Kapanen, Saad (if rumors are true).

You could also move Brown to line 3 and play Philp as a RW on line 4 if he keeps improving.

Skinner is cooked, but otherwise it's looking pretty good. Love Nuge as the 3C

 

[Soundwave]

Not really, getting solid depth performances is good, it makes the team cheaper. Desharnais ran into a wall as the playoffs progressed, Emberson skates and moves the puck much better so it shouldn't be an issue.

Also Vancouver, outside of Hughes, sucks, so it sort of stands a #5/6/7 defenseman will also suck.

The point is these guys are interchangable, you could probably give Coffey 20 different borderline players and he'd be able to make them look good.

It's all about the systems play.

Which is a GOOD thing, you should be happy that's taken root here, it is much easier to build a team that is based on systems play because then you don't have to always have the "sexy roster" to make things work, like those folks on this board who were running around like a chicken with its head cut off proclaiming the D would crater this season after a few games because names like Emberson weren't sexy enough.

Coffey can make it work. Daryl Sutter built a career in coaching out of getting outsized results from his systems play, made 3 Cup Finals and won 2 of them along the way.

 

[McDoused]

Jason Demers on ONE today said that Klingberg would complain about the pain he was in even back then (in Dallas). He also said he didn't know how long his hips would last and seriously considered not playing or taking a long term contract because of it.

 

[Soundwave]

You know a D from our past who I really probably would've fit well on this squad ... Ryan Whitney. That outlet pass and Coffey coaching him with these forwards to play with, he would've been really, really good here.

A case of a player being about 14 years too early, lol.

 

[Canovin]

Skinner is cooked, but otherwise it's looking pretty good. Love Nuge as the 3C

He's cooked or he's not being utilized properly? How many times we've seen that happen with the Oilers

With that said, I prefer to have Saad over him and the extra cap space if we can move him

 

[McSuper]

Can't do that. Remember the NMC.

Yeah I forgot. With my dad passing away I haven’t been around much

 

[Canovin]

I would just pay the asking price of Rasmus Andersson. 1st, 2nd and prospect and throw in a 3rd to have a team retain 50%. When he needs a new deal in 2026-27, the cap will be 105M. We can afford the extension.

 

[Soundwave]

I would just pay the asking price of Rasmus Andersson. 1st, 2nd and prospect and throw in a 3rd to have a team retain 50%. When he needs a new deal in 2026-27, the cap will be 105M. We can afford the extension.

Calgary will get that package from multiple teams, I doubt they will deal with us. Their ownership is cheap as shit too, probably will not want to retain.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

The point is these guys are interchangable, you could probably give Coffey 20 different borderline players and he'd be able to make them look good.

It's all about the systems play.

Which is a GOOD thing, you should be happy that's taken root here, it is much easier to build a team that is based on systems play because then you don't have to always have the "sexy roster" to make things work, like those folks on this board who were running around like a chicken with its head cut off proclaiming the D would crater this season after a few games because names like Emberson weren't sexy enough.

Coffey can make it work. Daryl Sutter built a career in coaching out of getting outsized results from his systems play, made 3 Cup Finals and won 2 of them along the way.

Totally, no one is suggesting they aren't, however you seem to assume there's just like half a dozen of those guys in the minors just waiting for their chance or whatever, and there isn't, right?

To win in this league you need McDavid, Draisaitl and Bouchard to break the game, however you also need a cheap guy like Emberson to play a safe and steady 14-16 minutes a night, doing a good job on the PK.

I don't know what's going on with you, but it really feels like you're losing the plot, it's a team game for a reason. Sometime a guy who didn't score for 70+ f***ing games scores massive short handed goals in the playoffs, it's a team sport.

 

[Soundwave]

Totally, no one is suggesting they aren't, however you seem to assume there's just like half a dozen of those guys in the minors just waiting for their chance or whatever, and there isn't, right?

To win in this league you need McDavid, Draisaitl and Bouchard to break the game, however you also need a cheap guy like Emberson to play a safe and steady 14-16 minutes a night, doing a good job on the PK.

I don't know what's going on with you, but it really feels like you're losing the plot, it's a team game for a reason. Sometime a guy who didn't score for 70+ f***ing games scores massive short handed goals in the playoffs, it's a team sport.

These guys are interchangable, I don't get attached to the Emberson's or Desharnais' of the world (and he certainly had a very loud fan club here and people were saying our PK was sunk without him to start the season etc. etc. etc.).

Stuff like "we can't add a D Man because I'm worried that Emberson will be scratched" is stupid.

 

[foshizzle]

Yeah I forgot. With my dad passing away I haven’t been around much

Oh man. So sorry for your loss.

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

Don’t know how credible this is though

 

[K1984]

I would just pay the asking price of Rasmus Andersson. 1st, 2nd and prospect and throw in a 3rd to have a team retain 50%. When he needs a new deal in 2026-27, the cap will be 105M. We can afford the extension.

There is a 0% chance the Flames deal him for nothing less than a grand slam for assets we just don't have.

They think they're going to make the playoffs, can be competitive faster than they thought, AND laughably think Andersson is going to end up with his jersey retired when it's all said and done. Selling him just isn't going to happen unless it's a MAJOR return, and that isn't going to come from here.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

These guys are interchangable, I don't get attached to the Emberson's or Desharnais' of the world (and he certainly had a very loud fan club here and people were saying our PK was sunk without him to start the season etc. etc. etc.).

Stuff like "we can't add a D Man because I'm worried that Emberson will be scratched" is stupid.

Ah, so you're misunderstanding that people like the player and think he should stay in the line up vs. seeing him as some kind of core piece. Fair enough, though that confusion that makes no sense.

You need competent depth players. Emberson starts the PK with Ekholm, if he's just not there, that will absolutely have an effect.

 

[Faelko]

Don’t know how credible this is though

I’d say not at all…haha

 

[TB12]

Haha pretty cool... Didn't know where to put this

As a huge Rory fan this is most excellent news!

2025: Rory finally gets his 5th major and completes the career Grand Slam at the Masters and the Oil finally get their 6th Cup.

 

[Da McBomb]

As a huge Rory fan this is most excellent news!

2025: Rory finally gets his 5th major and completes the career Grand Slam at the Masters and the Oil finally get their 6th Cup.

I'm a big Rory fan as well... it'd be cool if the Oilers invited him to come to a playoff game. That would make me smile like I did when the Oilers invited Steve Urkel lol.