Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I don't think it's a meaningless talking point at all, especially when you take into account the Oilers loss to the Golden Knights the year prior. The Canucks were a fine team, but they had no business being in that series, let alone in the driver's seat of eliminating the Oilers. Skinner has lost the net a number of times in the playoffs the last two years. You can't just ignore that. Like I said, if you want to defend Skinner, no problem--but no one should arguing that the Oilers goaltending isn't a significant risk going into the playoffs.

The guys getting paid to assess goaltending say he's fine, so here we are.

And yeah, Skinner wasn't great against the Canucks. Why does that matter and not his work afterwards? Again, Bobrovsky was one goal away from complete disaster. Do the Panthers care?

 

[iCanada]

The Oilers walked thru LA in 5 games. Oilers would have swept both LA and Vancouver if it wasn't for Stuart Skinner. Skinner exhausted the Oilers not LA or Vancouver.

Both teams were banged up. It's showed on both side. I would have played Kane and Pickard more.

Kane allegedly couldn't even walk, so I think playing Kane more was nonstarter.

 

[CupofOil]

Both teams were banged up. It's showed on both side. I would have played Kane and Pickard more.

Draisaitl could barely skate and was actually a liability in the series, that's sort of a big player to be missing.
The same in the Stars series as well tbh.

Not making excuses, the Panthers won fair and square. I'm just saying it's fair game to bring up excuses like that for the Oilers if you bring up the excuse that the Stars have for having a tougher path to the Conference finals. Both are useless discussions because it doesn't really matter in the long run, there's only one winner and one loser, asterisks are a myth.

 

[soothsayer]

The guys getting paid to assess goaltending say he's fine, so here we are.

And yeah, Skinner wasn't great against the Canucks. Why does that matter and not his work afterwards? Again, Bobrovsky was one goal away from complete disaster. Do the Panthers care?

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean, unless it's some sort of circular argument.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean, unless it's some sort of circular argument.

Management isn't interested in upgrading on him. People get mad at Skinner all the time while the ones who put him in that position seem to escape notice.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Management isn't interested in upgrading on him. People get mad at Skinner all the time while the ones who put him in that position seem to escape notice.

I mean they certainly aren't interested right now, the offseason might be a different story (though that doesn't help now)

I get the feeling they're still looking to improve the back-up/1b position, but until they do that's just speculation.

 

[Canovin]

No, I think the folks who were polluting this thread with "Colorado management great, Edmonton management clowns, Blackwood great, Skinner garbage" rhetoric, and there was a lot of it, jumped the gun on Blackwood being super awesome and the Oilers being super idiots for missing out.

As I said before, he's a capable goalie just like Skinner is a capable goalie. Both have been inconsistent in the league. Time will tell if the Avs made the right decision and/or if the Oilers made a bad decision by not pursuing Blackwood but you better believe these posters who were incessant with their polishing of Avs management and shitting on Oilers management deserves for it to be to thrown back at them when Blackwood slumps.

Since coming into the NHL, Stuart has never played on a shitty team. The Oilers were always a good team, their up and downs has to do with goaltending.

Blackwood inconsistency thru his NHL career has to do with healthy issue and being on shitty teams.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

I get what you're saying, but if the Oilers were to bring in Rantanen, you could wheel my grandmother out on the first defensive pair and put a potato in net, and the Oilers would still challenge for the cup.

Rantanen on the same line as Draisaitl would be like grown NHL players against a bantam team. They would never, ever give up the puck.

No this is not how the nhl works.

 

[soothsayer]

Management isn't interested in upgrading on him. People get mad at Skinner all the time while the ones who put him in that position seem to escape notice.

not from me! Lol

 

[spot]

Don't think it can work but give me Marchand, Carlo and Vejmalka and I'll give my wife the best 45 seconds of her life!

A foot rub without speaking one word?

 

[soothsayer]

No this is not how the nhl works.

Oh...

 

[MessierII]

Let's be clear, that series went 7 games because of how bad Skinner played. People like to cite Skinner's play against Dallas, but the Oilers may have been a Brock Boeser blood clot away from being bounced in the second round. That series is over in 5 if Skinner didn't play as poorly as he did. And you could argue that took a toll on the team in the longer run. You gotta eat the whole hamburger with Skinner: he is capable of losing you a series.

I agree with you I think what I’m saying went over your head a bit. The fact is that series went 7 games but completely outside of hockey reasons the Canucks took the most cheap shots on us of any team and I would say that series took the biggest toll on us physically. Being a better team doesn’t necessarily mean harder to play against.

You don't follow my logic? You never played against a better team in your life? lol

Are the Oilers the only team getting cheap shots in games? I don't get it.

On the scale we were getting cheap shotted in that series that’s an emphatic yes. Hockey reasons aside the Canucks series took more out of us physically than any series played in the conference to that point.

I’ve played playoff series before against way better teams and come out feeling great. I’ve also played against worse teams where we were the heavy favorite and come out feeling awful.

 

[Canovin]

One thing I will give to Stuart is his stats as a backup goalie is better than his stats as a starting goalie. It's either we bring in a 1A to bring down his games or 1B to also bring down his games. I don't think he's a goalie that should be playing more than 40 games.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

One thing I will give to Stuart is his stats as a backup goalie is better than his stats as a starting goalie.

I don't know what this means, but he's the guy like it or not and has won important games for this team.

I will be curious to see what the offseason holds, because extending him, imo, is not a slam dunk by any means.

 

[soothsayer]

I agree with you I think what I’m saying went over your head a bit. The fact is that series went 7 games but completely outside of hockey reasons the Canucks took the most cheap shots on us of any team and I would say that series took the biggest toll on us physically. Being a better team doesn’t necessarily mean harder to play against.


On the scale we were getting cheap shotted in that series that’s an emphatic yes. Hockey reasons aside the Canucks series took more out of us physically than any series played in the conference to that point.

I’ve played playoff series before against way better teams and come out feeling great. I’ve also played against worse teams where we were the heavy favorite and come out feeling awful.

I understood what you were saying. What I was saying is that Skinner's play probably cost the team extra rest.

 

[ConnorNova0929]

His first month sucked but Skinner has been on a heater for a couple months now.

 

[MessierII]

I understood what you were saying. What I was saying is that Skinner's play probably cost the team extra rest.

Which I don’t disagree with. I’m completely separating the hockey discussion here. Skinner crapped the bed and extended the series 100% but there is no chance that series was easier physically than the stars series with Colorado or Vegas.

 

[ConnorNova0929]

His first month sucked but Skinner has been on a heater for a couple months now.

Also to add, he has a better Sv% than both Bobrovsky and Hill this season lol. That's even with a shitty first month.

 

[MessierII]

His first month sucked but Skinner has been on a heater for a couple months now.

We only care about October here

 

[oXo Cube]

Skinner has definitely been decent to good for awhile. Not surprisingly the Oilers have the best record in the NHL over that stretch.

This is what makes his wildly inconsistent play so frustrating for many. The team almost never loses when it gets average goaltending or better.

 

[Canovin]

I don't know what this means, but he's the guy like it or not and has won important games for this team.

I will be curious to see what the offseason holds, because extending him, imo, is not a slam dunk by any means.

Extension talk with Stuart should come after we extended McDavid and Bouchard and possibly signed Rantanen. Whatever cap left is for Stuart, if he doesn't like it he can walk. He's not worth 5M.

People are laughing at Blackwood getting 5.5M for having a .920 season. But aren't laughing at Stuart for .900 season. Imagine giving him 5M. That would be the joke of the century

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Extension talk with Stuart should come after we extended McDavid and Bouchard and possibly signed Rantanen. Whatever cap left is for Stuart, if he doesn't like it he can walk. He's not worth 5M.

Rantanen isn't happening. Let go of that pipe dream.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

No, I think the folks who were polluting this thread with "Colorado management great, Edmonton management clowns, Blackwood great, Skinner garbage" rhetoric, and there was a lot of it, jumped the gun on Blackwood being super awesome and the Oilers being super idiots for missing out.

As I said before, he's a capable goalie just like Skinner is a capable goalie. Both have been inconsistent in the league. Time will tell if the Avs made the right decision and/or if the Oilers made a bad decision by not pursuing Blackwood but you better believe these posters who were incessant with their polishing of Avs management and shitting on Oilers management deserves for it to be to thrown back at them when Blackwood slumps.

Well then you can’t complain when he gets hot again and people claim it was a mistake not grabbing him.

 

[ConnorNova0929]

Extension talk with Stuart should come after we extended McDavid and Bouchard and possibly signed Rantanen. Whatever cap left is for Stuart, if he doesn't like it he can walk. He's not worth 5M.

People are laughing at Blackwood getting 5.5M for having a .920 season. But aren't laughing at Stuart for .900 season. Imagine giving him 5M. That would be the joke of the century

Why are you worrying about this now? He still has one year left on the current deal.

 

[FiveFourteenSixOne]

I wouldn't go that far.

Horseshoes are horseshoes, and they had everything rolling in their direction. Even in our series it took a degree of relying on random event for them to push to 7 and they kept getting them. I think they would have had a very good chance at beating any of the Central teams for no reason other than the winds were blowing in their direction basically the whole year.

That's why they say it's better to be lucky.