Broberg Speed
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May god have mercy on your soul.
and this guy turns up with an insult within 5 minutes every time....
gang gang
May god have mercy on your soul.
It's good team D for certain, and our top pairing is VERY good in fact. But our bottom 4 was really bad (just go look at the advanced stats on them) and that is where we got worse (although I personally don't know how much we got worse). Our forwards are so dominant, that it covers up a lot of deficiencies on our backend
We don’t need a #2 or #3. We need a #4
If the goals against is good and you're choking the life out of opponents' offense in playoff rounds, what exactly is the issue? It's like whining that you're getting women because you're rich and not because you have some preconceived notion that it must be done through good looks or whatever.
Like who cares. If they can play D like they did last year they'll be fine. The only pairing Knoblaugh couldn't make work was Nurse + Ceci, those two together just bring out the worst in each other.
Here's a secret too ... most teams really only have one great D pairing. They make due with the rest, no one is rocking like 3 superstar pairings in a cap world.
Even Nurse for all the shit he takes, away from Ceci, Nurse was +4 in the Finals. Ekblad was a f***ing disaster at -5. Forsling had a mediocre Finals too at -2.
Canucks are my most hated team by far. Ever since their arrogance in 2011 and before that. Nevermind these playoffs. I hope they somehow just fail and tank hard
And Craig shitroy will trade him to a rival once again
Look at the teams we lose to. Vegas had a great defense. Colorado had a great defense. Florida shut us down because they played incredible team defense and we couldn't keep pace with them.If the goals against is good and you're choking the life out of opponents' offense in playoff rounds, what exactly is the issue? It's like whining that you're getting women because you're rich and not because you have some preconceived notion that it must be done through good looks or whatever.
Like who cares. If they can play D like they did last year they'll be fine. The only pairing Knoblaugh couldn't make work was Nurse + Ceci, those two together just bring out the worst in each other.
Here's a secret too ... most teams really only have one great D pairing. They make due with the rest, no one is rocking like 3 superstar pairings in a cap world.
Even Nurse for all the shit he takes, away from Ceci, Nurse was +4 in the Finals. Ekblad was a f***ing disaster at -5.
How does Bear help? He's a weakling. He's junk. Aim higher. Then aim higher again then aim higher one more time because 4 through 6 need to be replaced.Ask Anaheim to claim Bear, retain half and flip them a 3rd round pick.
Bear was waived by the Caps.
If he's healthy, trade Josh Brown and 5th for Bear @50% and Philp.
The team is better.
No trade for Noah's brother Luke, get them all.I'd rather we keep Philp. He will be our Derek Ryan replacement IMO after this year. And trading Josh Brown before he even starts 1 game, I highly doubt we do this.
Ahh I see. I read it wrong lol.No trade for Noah's brother Luke, get them all.
And I don't care, Brown isn't an NHL defenseman.
Bear was waived by the Caps.
If he's healthy, trade Josh Brown and 5th for Bear @50% and Philp.
The team is better.
Ethan Bear, healthy, is 5 times the player Josh Brown is. Hurt, he's still twice the player.Why do some of you guys have such a heart () on for Bear? He's continually proven he's not an NHL player.
The guy was scratched in CAR, and now he can't even make WSH. What the f*** is the point of brining him back? So you can wear your Bear Oilers jersey with Cree letters and feel relevant?
Help me to understand. Somebody. Anybody.
If you look only at the finals sample size becomes quite small to say much but over the course of the playoffs Nurse played 159 minutes 5 vs 5 away from both Ceci and Broberg. YOu can see the results here:I'll give you props for that analogy alone, lol.
I don't even LOOK at +/- when evaluating defenders. Such a terrible stat, even more so in a small sample size. Go look at Nurse's advanced stats in the finals, they were god-awful. I don't know how Ekholm's were off top of head though.
I get what you are saying on the whole though: that where you get the D from doesn't matter as much as you get it. Which is true. I expect the team to have a 50th+ percentile ES GA as a team again this year and wouldn't be shocked by 75th percentile). So I'm not saying the team D is bad, I'm saying the D corps on this team is bad. The D corps is, by far, the weakest part of this team. It was last year, and it is more pronounced this year I believe. Just imagine how much better the team D would be if we had better D players on the backend? Again, I suspect they will attempt to solve the problem somewhat at the TDL, but this unit is so bad, that even with a somewhat competent #4 added (the likely add at the TDL), the unit will still be average at best.
You do know they have pretty much the same forwards and actually upgraded the top 6.We weren't a top 10 Dcore team before, not by a long shot. The defensive successes we had, were due to forwards being superior mostly. Not due to D player success.
No, Nurse was barely a bottom pairing guy in the playoffs last year.
Bear is cooked.Bear was waived by the Caps.
If he's healthy, trade Josh Brown and 5th for Bear @50% and Philp.
The team is better.
bullshit.Look at the teams we lose to. Vegas had a great defense. Colorado had a great defense. Florida shut us down because they played incredible team defense and we couldn't keep pace with them.
It probably would have been better if the Oilers did get swept in the finals because gang gang wouldn't have so many built in excuses.
Kulak sucked. Nurse sucked. This means Kulak and everyone down needs to be replaced. Nurse needs an agile puck transporter to help him out or he's going to suck again.
We are not a cup caliber team right now... not even in the vicinity. You guys can play pretend all you want but the Oilers need major upgrades on defense right now, not down the road. Because if they want to contend they'll need more than one guy.
This one magic guy at the deadline because of accrued cap space scenario is a false f***ing narrative. It will cost the Oilers their one last shot at a championship.
Oilers can't even ice a full defense now while Draisaitl is making 8.5M and Bouchard is making 3.9M. Let me tell you, they won't be making that next season.
Why do you keep making excuses? And it's the same with the same posters every year because the defense is a mess every year.
Management needs to get off its f***ing ass and start fixing the team. Now.