Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Vegas Claim & Somehow Assign Lavoie to Farm... because Oilers.

[Jumptheshark]

That Kesserling trade still pisses me off.

here is the original thread were we talked about the trade

Confirmed with Link: - Oilers acquire Nick Bjugstad (50% retained) + Cam Dineen for Kesselring + a 3rd

Nice depth.

forums.hfboards.com

 

[The Nuge]

This is a hilarious development.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844116778542387540

That’s actually really annoying. They’d probably do it too because it’s just a one day paper transaction to put him back on waivers if someone else put in a claim. Considering we weren’t the only claim though, you pretty much have to leave him up and see

It's better than running with 6D.

Going with an 11-7 in a pinch is a lot easier with this roster.

Depends who gets hurt. If it’s someone from our bottom 4 other than Nurse, it’s really not a big deal for a game. Nurse is capable of playing half the game, so you’d just need the other 2 in the bottom 4 to log like 16-18 minutes each. Even if it was Ekholm it’s not the end of the world. It basically just can’t been Nurse/Bouch. Then we’d be in trouble

 

[Senor Catface]

Not much to cheer for View attachment 914108

Needing two captain patches does match their overwhelming fan insecurity.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Or its similar to Jones/Nurse extensions.

Sometimes you need to wait it out a bit. Meanwhile Francis gave Daccord for $5m. Guess we don’t have to really worry about Seattle for the next 5+ years

I won't worry about Seattle until they get a star player. They can have a top 5-10 goalie in the league, but they're not going anywhere with Beniers as their top scorer.

 

[Oilers88]

This is a hilarious development.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844116778542387540

At this point I think a Samorukov/Kostin type of trade makes sense. Lavoie isn't a great fit with the way they've constructed the roster, but I doubt the want to lose him for nothing.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Both players were contributors last night in St. Louis but its a long 82 game season and the real results won't be available for awhile.

Broberg may have scored the goal but got absolutely caved in defensively yesterday. <25% xG%

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

At this point I think a Samorukov/Kostin type of trade makes sense. Lavoie isn't a great fit with the way they've constructed the roster, but I doubt the want to lose him for nothing.

Maybe Lavoie for Ty Smith if the Canes put in a claim for him. Or for Ian Mitchell if the Bruins put a claim in.

I was looking at the Avs and only Calvin DeHaan really makes sense, but doesn't

 

[foshizzle]

Broberg may have scored the goal but got absolutely caved in defensively yesterday. <25% xG%

From what I have read- he has been for them exactly what he was for us...a player needing a lot of work

 

[foshizzle]

If they're worried about losing Lavoie again(probably should be) they can just waive one of Stetcher or Dermott instead.

Nobody is claiming either of those guys.

Dermott has a 2 way contract and is playing his wrong side. He doesn't need to be waived- he can just be sent down

 

[McFlyingV]

Accuring cap is already dead before it started lool

It's not. Accruing cap daily means 2-3 weeks of this has minor impact at the trade deadline. Hell if you can manage an average of 500k cap space per day leading up to the deadline, and use a 3rd party for 75% retention, you can add an 8mil+ cap hit at the deadline.

 

[MoontoScott]

Broberg may have scored the goal but got absolutely caved in defensively yesterday. <25% xG%

Edit

Did not read that part of the update---long season still ahead to make call. I do know that almost $5M in cap space could not be justified.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Dermott has a 2 way contract and is playing his wrong side. He doesn't need to be waived- he can just be sent down

That's not how 2 way contracts work. He would have to be waived.

 

[McFlyingV]

Dermott has a 2 way contract and is playing his wrong side. He doesn't need to be waived- he can just be sent down

2 way contracts mean absolutely nothing outside of the amount that they make in the NHL vs AHL being different amounts.

 

[Senor Catface]

2 way contracts mean absolutely nothing outside of the amount that they make in the NHL vs AHL being different amounts.

The EA NHL curse strikes again

 

[Jumptheshark]

At this point I think a Samorukov/Kostin type of trade makes sense. Lavoie isn't a great fit with the way they've constructed the roster, but I doubt the want to lose him for nothing.

are they allowed to trade him after claiming him off waivers? I know the rules kept being changed. I thought they had to hold onto him for 32 days then trade him--again the rules keep changing

 

[ManofSteel55]

2 way contracts mean absolutely nothing outside of the amount that they make in the NHL vs AHL being different amounts.

EA Sports really screwed up people's understanding of 2 way contracts.

 

[McFlyingV]

EA Sports really screwed up people's understanding of 2 way contracts.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought at one point 2-way contracts did affect a players waiver eligibility, but I thought that was 15-20 years ago.

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

are they allowed to trade him after claiming him off waivers? I know the rules kept being changed. I thought they had to hold onto him for 32 days then trade him--again the rules keep changing

According to The Hockey Writers:

Players who are claimed off waivers must be offered to the other teams that placed an original claim before that player can be traded. For example, if a player is placed on waivers and three teams place a claim on him. The team lowest in the standings gets first dibs. If they then decide to trade the player, he would first have to be passed on by the other two teams. If a team places a claim, he’d be theirs. If not, he can be traded.

 

[McFlyingV]

are they allowed to trade him after claiming him off waivers? I know the rules kept being changed. I thought they had to hold onto him for 32 days then trade him--again the rules keep changing

My understanding is they would need to pass through waivers with no other team putting in a claim before you can trade them.

Edit: What Davo posted above seems to support that.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Can u post your comments from the time of the trade?

It was clear as day Kesselring was a player from the rookie camp in Penticton.

here is the original thread were we talked about the trade

Confirmed with Link: - Oilers acquire Nick Bjugstad (50% retained) + Cam Dineen for Kesselring + a 3rd

Nice depth.

forums.hfboards.com

Posting the link to the trade is supposed to prove what?

From what I have read- he has been for them exactly what he was for us...a player needing a lot of work

If you keep bringing this up to prove some kind of point maybe you shouldn't flip the f*** out when Broberg plays over 20 minutes and scores a goal.

 

[Jumptheshark]

It was clear as day Kesselring was a player from the rookie camp in Penticton.

Posting the link to the trade is supposed to prove what?

If you keep bringing this up to prove some kind of point maybe you shouldn't flip the f*** out when Broberg plays over 20 minutes and scores a goal.

thread posted for a reminder of what the thoughts were at the time

 

[Oilslick941611]

Both players were contributors last night in St. Louis but its a long 82 game season and the real results won't be available for awhile.

Broberg got caved and scored a goal that shouldn't have gone in on an NHL goalie.

Needing two captain patches does match their overwhelming fan insecurity.

one for the captain and the other is for Canucks, because that logo sucks ass

 

[bellagiobob]

This is a hilarious development.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844116778542387540

Kelly put in a call to one of his buddies to make a claim, knowing that the Oilers will likely eventually put him back on waivers and Vegas can claim him and send him to the farm. Other team gets a future considerations from Kelly. Smart move by them.

 

[Broberg Speed]

thread posted for a reminder of what the thoughts were at the time

Do tell what was your reaction to the transaction?

Broberg got caved and scored a goal that shouldn't have gone in on an NHL goalie.


one for the captain and the other is for Canucks, because that logo sucks ass

Let's see what Broberg does next game. Then we can see what he accomplishes over the next decade.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Do tell what was your opinion on the transaction?

Let's see what he does next game. Then we can see what he accomplishes over the next decade.

he got caved here as well and somehow STL decided to pay him 4.6 mil.