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[Behind Enemy Lines]

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Do it do it do it

Who's the internet rando? HyBOBle's whole schtick is to play pin the tail on the trade suspects working his way through all of them, Risto, Provorov, Fowler. Name em all and eventually point to getting it right, lol.

Pittsburg needs to carve out old, expensive talent moreso than throwing away NHL prime year talent for scratch lottery tickets. Put a nickel on a double retained Karlsson somewhere laundered through a third party C-Bus with massive available cap space. Out of favour in Pittsburg. See how Karlsson performs in the Four Nations Cup with competitive juices flowing. Though I still think Provorov is a more likely fit and versatility.

 

[Gordy Elbows]

Some thoughts on our goaltending…..
Skinner is not being challenged for the starter’s spot at all and is getting the net by default. Pickard is older and has reached his ceiling…and will be a backup at best.
How about looking at a young netminder that has some potential - at least in an interim basis until the Oilers get serious about goaltending, goal coaches and development? This brings to mind Dostal in Anaheim.
Playing on that team and behind that defence, the kid hasn’t got a chance….yet he is still putting in a 0.900+ save percentage (.902 last season and 0.922 so far this year). Would definitely give Skinner a run and perhaps force Skinner to up his game in the short term.
Trade for Dostal, waive Pickard to the minors, and drop the puck.
It’s not a perfect solution - that needs a real plan and real commitment - but might get us through some rough waters in the meantime.

 

[Soundwave]

What competition? Pickard? LMAO

Skinner is that rich CEO's kid who just gets handed the position

I hate to say it but Campbell was almost definitely drinking when he was here.

You don't develop a substance abuse problem so bad you end up in rehab within a year. The "mental issues" that were swirling around Campbell were likely a substance abuse problem all along, it now makes a lot of sense why he the Leafs gave had to give him a leave of absence (how often do that ever happen?). They knew then.

For his sake, I hope he gets his life back on track. Not worth throwing it all away even over an NHL job, if something is stressing you out that much, let it go.

So really yeah, Pickard is the only real comp Skinner has ever had and Pickard is a 32 year old AHL goalie, lol.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Imagine if the players started bitching out Skinner for every bad goal he gives up.

Funny no one on the team publicly ripped into Skinner on the ice when he kicked a bad rebound onto the stick of an Islander player for the 3-2 goal and then didn’t make a stop on the next shot against to take the game to overtime.

You're right, he's solely responsible for every goal against. My mistake.

 

[Fourier]

Thanks for this...

Man Nuge really jumps out here, especially since I don't think even his worst critics would suggest that he's slow. I see those <50% numbers and think to myself "that's some next level deference, indecision and caution." You know me to be a huge fan, but he needs to nut-up and be more of a factor.

This is what happens with him when he plays with McDavid and Hyman. This two go up ice and he hangs back. Similar thing happened when he played with Hall an d Eberle. It's why his 5 vs 5 numbers tend to be less playing with guys like that then would be expected. I don't like it either but all his coaches seem to have.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Some thoughts on our goaltending…..
Skinner is not being challenged for the starter’s spot at all and is getting the net by default. Pickard is older and has reached his ceiling…and will be a backup at best.
How about looking at a young netminder that has some potential - at least in an interim basis until the Oilers get serious about goaltending, goal coaches and development? This brings to mind Dostal in Anaheim.
Playing on that team and behind that defence, the kid hasn’t got a chance….yet he is still putting in a 0.900+ save percentage (.902 last season and 0.922 so far this year). Would definitely give Skinner a run and perhaps force Skinner to up his game in the short term.
Trade for Dostal, waive Pickard to the minors, and drop the puck.
It’s not a perfect solution - that needs a real plan and real commitment - but might get us through some rough waters in the meantime.

But why would ANA trade him? Still have PTSD from that game Dostal stoned us last year lol

I hate to say it but Campbell was almost definitely drinking when he was here.

You don't develop a substance abuse problem so bad you end up in rehab within a year.

For his sake, I hope he gets his life back on track. Not worth throwing it all away even over an NHL job, if something is stressing you out that much, let it go.

He was the only player at team dinners who would get blasted (This is from somebody there first hand at the dinners). He obviously had a lot of stress on him after his debut started rocky and went downhill.

 

[Spawn]

You're right, he's solely responsible for every goal against. My mistake.

When your team limits the opposition to three shots in the final 10 minutes of the game and you can’t even stop TWO of them… yeah sometimes it’s your fault.

Every single stat and the eye test shows that Skinner has been awful this year.

Continuing to defend him is quite the look.

 

[Soundwave]

But why would ANA trade him? Still have PTSD from that game Dostal stoned us last year lol


He was the only player at team dinners who would get blasted (This is from somebody there first hand at the dinners). He obviously had a lot of stress on him after his debut started rocky and went downhill.

Like I said, the Leafs giving him a leave of absence in the middle of a season always seemed suspect as hell, now it pretty much makes sense. They knew he had a problem then, our org did no due diligence on it.

How many times do you see a player taking a leave of absence from their team, let alone the starting goalie during a season for something that isn't like a family emergency/situation?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

When your team limits the opposition to three shots in the final 10 minutes of the game and you can’t even stop TWO of them… yeah sometimes it’s your fault.

Every single stat and the eye test shows that Skinner has been awful this year.

Continuing to defend him is quite the look.

Again, he's blamed for literally every goal against.

But it doesn't matter, he's who we are stuck with. If you don't like it, join the fire Dustin Schwartz bandwagon.

 

[McDNicks17]

Drew O'Connor is interesting. The box cars look underwhelming, but he does lead the Pens in individual xGF. Tons of high danger chances created. He'd be 2nd on the Oilers behind Hyman.

He'd fit in well on the Oilers with his 3.6% onSH and .850 onSV% too.

 

[Soundwave]

Drew O'Connor is interesting. The box cars look underwhelming, but he does lead the Pens in individual xGF. Tons of high danger chances created.

He'd fit in well on the Oilers with his 3.6% onSH and .850 onSV% too.

Take that 3.6%, put him on the 2nd line, and cut it half to 1.8% ... it's the Oiler way.

Our 2nd line LW/RW is where shooting percentages go to die.

 

[Gordy Elbows]

But why would ANA trade him? Still have PTSD from that game Dostal stoned us last year lol


He was the only player at team dinners who would get blasted (This is from somebody there first hand at the dinners). He obviously had a lot of stress on him after his debut started rocky and went downhill.

Anaheim is still very interested in collecting prospects and picks…think we could address that and still keep our priority prospects.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Anaheim is still very interested in collecting prospects and picks…think we could address that and still keep our priority prospects.

Call em up! I would take that guy in a heart beat

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Montembault actually plays in front of the leakiest team in the league, the Habs are actually what the some people think the Oilers are (or were like 3-4 years ago). St. Louis plays no defensive structure at all like Woodcroft.

Montembault would probably be quite good here. Really good athletic ability.

Adin Hill is just flat out better than Skinner. One poor start doesn't erase a Stanley Cup performance for the ages, great playoff numbers, decent .909 regular season last year too. I'd drive Skinner to the airport myself if Vegas was willing to do Hill for Skinner straight across. He'll find his game, I don't think I've seen anyone who likes playing more in Edmonton than that dude.

If you trade goalies in the 2023 playoffs, we win the Stanley Cup and Vegas is at home licking their chops. In '24 we probably would win again with Hill in net.

The sad thing is to think about it that way, that's all it would have taken for even probably 2 Cups already. This organization just cannot bring themselves to even put in that kind of effort to find that player.

Maybe, I assume they've already won a Cup if they don't sign and then keep Jack Campbell, but a hell of alot of things need to happen too.

Sometimes you trick a franchise into giving away a #1B defenseman, here's looking at you Ekholm.

I agree, they need to shore up the position and should be working at that, but I'm not as doom and gloom about it.

I will keep banging the Greaves, Hofer, Tarasov, Bussi drum though, find that guy who might be ready, like Cam Talbot was years ago.

 

[Spawn]

Again, he's blamed for literally every goal against.

But it doesn't matter, he's who we are stuck with. If you don't like it, join the fire Dustin Schwartz bandwagon.

People wouldn’t be blaming him for every goal if he was able to put up even average numbers.

And who isn’t on the fire Dustin Schwartz bandwagon?

But you’re right, we probably are stuck with him. We can’t trade him away for another maybe. What the team really needs to do is upgrade on Pickard. He would have been perfectly fine as a backup if we had a guy like Hellybuck in net. But we desperately need to try and find someone who can push Skinner right now. Pickard can’t do that, and we need someone who at least has a chance of going on a run if Skinner continues to shit the bed.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1857171782869950721

Do it do it do it

I really liked O'Connor in the game against the Pens, and I think he could add alot to the death. and Pettersson looks like he might be a guy who might have a Ekholm turn in him.

The difference between Vegas Golden Knights and the Edmonton Oilers.....one will do whatever it takes to win. The other is our favourite team.

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Ok, there's room on that wagon.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

People wouldn’t be blaming him for every goal if he was able to put up even average numbers.

And who isn’t on the fire Dustin Schwartz bandwagon?

But you’re right, we probably are stuck with him. We can’t trade him away for another maybe. What the team really needs to do is upgrade on Pickard. He would have been perfectly fine as a backup if we had a guy like Hellybuck in net. But we desperately need to try and find someone who can push Skinner right now. Pickard can’t do that, and we need someone who at least had a chance of going on a run if Skinner continues to shit the bed.

Dustin Schwartz has defenders here. And as long as he's here no upgrade is coming. So we're stuck with Skinner/Pickard unless one of them gets hurt.

 

[Soundwave]

Maybe, I assume they've already won a Cup if they don't sign and then keep Jack Campbell, but a hell of alot of things need to happen too.

Sometimes you trick a franchise into giving away a #1B defenseman, here's looking at you Ekholm.

I agree, they need to shore up the position and should be working at that, but I'm not as doom and gloom about it.

I will keep banging the Greaves, Hofer, Tarasov, Bussi drum though, find that guy who might be ready, like Cam Talbot was years ago.

Honestly I'd give serious thought to bringing Cam Talbot himself back. We know he can play well here if the D isn't completely decimated like it was after the 2017 playoffs (Klefbom toast, Sekera finished) we know he can steal some games even if he's not like a Vezina candidate.

We made a mistake in letting him go, we compounded that mistake by not bringing him back on the cheap when it was there for the taking. You could do a lot worse than Cam Talbot, we certainly are right now.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Honestly I'd give serious thought to bringing Cam Talbot himself back. We know he can play well here if the D isn't completely decimated like it was after the 2017 playoffs (Klefbom toast, Sekera finished) we know he can steal some games even if he's not like a Vezina candidate.

The thing with Talbot, and we've seen in last couple years, he falls off down the stretch and into the playoffs.

If Detroit would move him, hey welcome back, but I don't know that the Wings would be interested because he's helping them seem competitive. Maybe you could grab Alex Lyon out of there.


Also, Re-Jack Campbell, so many of you guys gave me so much shit for being "crazy" about the team needing to move on from him. If they had done that last offseason, it's impossible to say what would have happened, but things would have been better, even if Holland looked bad.

 

[McFlash97]

I really liked O'Connor in the game against the Pens, and I think he could add alot to the death. and Pettersson looks like he might be a guy who might have a Ekholm turn in him.


Ok, there's room on that wagon.

Drew O'Connor looks like a solid option if available, good size and speed, still relatively young and can really thrive on one of the top 3 lines. Petterson would be an added bonus. Definitely makes this team younger, deeper, bigger and quicker.

 

[Soundwave]

The thing with Talbot, and we've seen in last couple years, he falls off down the stretch and into the playoffs.

If Detroit would move him, hey welcome back, but I don't know that the Wings would be interested because he's helping them seem competitive. Maybe you could grab Alex Lyon out of there.


Also, Re-Jack Campbell, so many of you guys gave me so much shit for being "crazy" about the team needed to move on from him. If they had done that last offseason, it's impossible to say what would have happened, but things would have been better, even if Holland looked bad.

I think Detroit would be more apt to keep Lyon ... he's much younger.

I'd take either one to be frank.

If Talbot needs some breaks down the stretch, then isn't that what our Wundermustache Grant Fuhr Pads 2.0 is for?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I think Detroit would be more apt to keep Lyon ... he's much younger.

I'd take either one to be frank.

If Talbot needs some breaks down the stretch, then isn't that what our Wundermustache Grant Fuhr Pads 2.0 is for?

I like Lyon is 31, so he's basically like Pickard (he's better), just a journeyman type, so maybe you could convince them with a high enough (reasonable pick) just give a better platoon option.

Drew O'Connor looks like a solid option if available, good size and speed, still relatively young and can really thrive on one of the top 3 lines. Petterson would be an added bonus. Definitely makes this team younger, deeper, bigger and quicker.

No question, those 2, for this team, would be my main targets.

 

[Slats432]

I like Lyon is 31, so he's basically like Pickard (he's better), just a journeyman type, so maybe you could convince them with a high enough (reasonable pick) just give a better platoon option.


No question, those 2, for this team, would be my main targets.

I am not in the know on O'Connor, but I endorse Lyon as an option, as I have mentioned before.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Vegas isn't a Canadian team

 

[Soundwave]

I like Lyon is 31, so he's basically like Pickard (he's better), just a journeyman type, so maybe you could convince them with a high enough (reasonable pick) just give a better platoon option.


No question, those 2, for this team, would be my main targets.

The only thing I don't like about Lyon is he's kind of a small goalie (only 6'1). I just prefer bigger goalies so long as they can actually move in net.

My preference would be Talbot, I just feel like you know what you're gonna get and he's performed well here when given a defense that isn't crap and this d corps is much tighter than the one he left.

.910 or so is what I'd expect from Talbot in the playoffs (especially factoring in he doesn't have to play McDavid/Drai), .910+ is good enough to win us a Cup. If we had .910 last playoffs, we win the Cup probably.