Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Savoie Gets an Audition With the Trade Deadline Looming

[Arpeggio]

If Katz has to call his employees to keep them active then maybe he should find new ones.


And Holland left us with a bunch of trash and no prospects. There's also several other picks the Oilers missed out on, something that has plagued them for years.

I dunno man, Holland left us with a younger team that just went to game 7 of the finals. The new management team made a conscious decision to replace the younger players with older established veterans, and so far that is turning out to be a gigantic mistake.

This refrain is going to get real old real fast over the next couples of years, but if you take out Skinner, Arvidsson, Henrique, Brown, and replace them with Holloway, McLeod, Foegle, and maybe some younger cheap pickups, this roster is looking a lot more promising. You still could've grabbed Podkolzin and kept Holloway. They still could've made the Ceci for Emberson deal.

I thought the moves were good at the time, but in hindsight, they basically blew up a core of young players that had a ton of playoff experience (particularly McLeod and Holloway, given that Foegele is a bit older). Henrique over McLeod is turning out to be a disastrous decision.

 

[Canovin]

To be fair, it's McDavid calling Katz 20 times a day and Katz forwarding the calls.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I dunno man, Holland left us with a younger team that just went to game 7 of the finals. The new management team made a conscious decision to replace the younger players with older established veterans, and so far that is turning out to be a gigantic mistake.

This refrain is going to get real old real fast over the next couples of years, but if you take out Skinner, Arvidsson, Henrique, Brown, and replace them with Holloway, McLeod, Foegle, and maybe some younger cheap pickups, this roster is looking a lot more promising. You still could've grabbed Podkolzin and kept Holloway. They still could've made the Ceci for Emberson deal.

I thought the moves were good at the time, but in hindsight, they basically blew up a core of young players that had a ton of playoff experience (particularly McLeod and Holloway, given that Foegele is a bit older). Henrique over McLeod is turning out to be a disastrous decision.

if Holland left the cupboards full that would be another story but the drafting under him was just as pathetic as any other GM. This team drafts terribly, especially outside of the first round.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

lol, Doogie Howser...I used to love that show!

I agree with you that he is an idiot- but if he wants to shed salary, I'd him who has to give up assets- otherwise they can keep Karlsson and have him take up 10M of cap while they try to fill a ton of holes in Crosby's last year.


Oilers aren't interested unless he is on waivers...just how Boman rolls...waivers or bust

Karlsson's still a productive player with 43 points and 23:00 toi. The Pretendguins are still going to push for Crosby unless teams step up with draft picks or young players. Karlsson's a sunk cost they can hold onto unless they can be incentivized to move him. They can't afford to give away quality draft collateral that's been diminished for a long time during their long championship window years.

 

[Arpeggio]

To be fair, it's McDavid calling Katz 20 times a day and Katz forwarding the calls.

To be fair, McDavid is playing the worst hockey of his career right now, so I'm not sure he should be calling anyone.

Whole team needs to take responsibility. I think they'll turn it around at the deadline.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Honestly if I was the owner I’d be calling them 30 times a day right now to do something.

Seriously. The Oilers biggest money asset by a mile is up for contract negotiations this summer. No shit the owner is heavily invested in the teams success this season.

 

[Canovin]

if Holland left the cupboards full that would be another story but the drafting under him was just as pathetic as any other GM. This team drafts terribly, especially outside of the first round.

A team that went to game 7 finals won't have their cupboards full. You can't have everything man

 

[Arpeggio]

if Holland left the cupboards full that would be another story but the drafting under him was just as pathetic as any other GM. This team drafts terribly, especially outside of the first round.

Sure, drafting was bad. But they did have Holloway, Broberg, and McLeod. That's not nothing. And a lot of GMs would've moved on from Broberg.

 

[foshizzle]

Karlsson's still a productive player with 43 points and 23:00 toi. The Pretendguins are still going to push for Crosby unless teams step up with draft picks or young players. Karlsson's a sunk cost they can hold onto unless they can be incentivized to move him. They can't afford to give away quality draft collateral that's been diminished for a long time during their long championship window years.

Oh I agree- Karlsson is is a very productive players. I'm just saying when you teams are trying to shed salary- it's usually at a cost

if Holland left the cupboards full that would be another story but the drafting under him was just as pathetic as any other GM. This team drafts terribly, especially outside of the first round.

Not to mention burning of assets to get rid of the bad salaries he signed (as well as dead cap)

 

[FlameChampion]

I’m not fans of Jackson or Bowman. I didn’t like the Bowman hire but I don’t pin much on him. Most of this is Jacksons doing. That being said, the only guy I really wish they kept was Holloway.

These guys have the ability to retool the roster and fix things. Whether they can or they will remains to be seen. But if they leave the goaltending as is, its a complete fail.

They need to get some younger, faster and bigger bodies on the team.

I am interested to see what they do but honestly I’m not expecting much. I think they are in over their heads.

I would also say that if McDavid has been playing hurt this year. Shame on all (including McDavid) of them for not allowing him to get healthy. And if he’s regressing, then we are f*cked regardless.

 

[foshizzle]

Sure, drafting was bad. But they did have Holloway, Broberg, and McLeod. That's not nothing. And a lot of GMs would've moved on from Broberg.

McLeod was from Chia

 

[LeonDraisaitl29]

Give it a rest. Your “shitty owner posts” are always so dumb.

I’m glad Katz is making sure our management is active.

If katz is a bad owner, yet does pretty much everything he can to make the team better, what makes a good owner?

 

[Arpeggio]

I doubt it's realistic, but the Oilers need to figure out a way to move some big contracts out and replace them with better players. I just don't think they have the assets to do it. Maybe you could send one back in a Karlsson deal or something. That would be a big swing.

I feel like they're in a pretty tough spot here, going into the deadline playing so poorly is just asking to be taken advantage of.

 

[Cloned]

Seriously. The Oilers biggest money asset by a mile is up for contract negotiations this summer. No shit the owner is heavily invested in the teams success this season.

Also something to consider:

Who do we think Dreger is getting that information from? It’s probably not Jackson or Bowman. Which likely means Katz leaked it himself because he wants everyone to know the pressure is on.

 

[foshizzle]

Shitty owner that spent years hiring old Oilers to hang out with, then threatened to move the team if the city didn't cater to his demands. What a standup guy.

Let's not forget him owning a far right website promoting conspiracy theories

 

[oXo Cube]

Also something to consider:

Who do we think Dreger is getting that information from? It’s probably not Jackson or Bowman. Which likely means Katz leaked it himself because he wants everyone to know the pressure is on.

Dreger has been on the money when talking about Edmonton's front office for years now.

If he's speaking we should be listening.

 

[Canovin]

I'm guessing Buffalo moving Peterka in order to sign Rantanen or Marner

Get some picks and prospects while also signing a big time player for free

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

A team that went to game 7 finals won't have their cupboards full. You can't have everything man

But they're empty. That's the thing. Trading Schafer for Ekholm was good but that doesn't account for the other picks the GM made that have turned into nothing. We're just so used to picks in rounds 2-7 being an afterthought. From the days of "Stu the Magnificent" to today, the Oilers have been one of the worst drafting teams in the NHL.

Sure, drafting was bad. But they did have Holloway, Broberg, and McLeod. That's not nothing. And a lot of GMs would've moved on from Broberg.

Only two of those guys were drafted by Holland and now we don't have any of them. We're saddled with aging vets who can't get it done.

 

[McDrai]

I’d rather trade for Peterka rather than a Rantanen. This team needs to get way younger (I hope management see this during the offseason and brings in some younger talent)

 

[Canovin]

But they're empty. That's the thing. Trading Schafer for Ekholm was good but that doesn't account for the other picks the GM made that have turned into nothing. We're just so used to picks in rounds 2-7 being an afterthought. From the days of "Stu the Magnificent" to today, the Oilers have been one of the worst drafting teams in the NHL.


Only two of those guys were drafted by Holland and now we don't have any of them. We're saddled with aging vets who can't get it done.

Our cupboard is not even empty. It's actually underrated.

 

[alphahelix]

I'm guessing Buffalo moving Peterka in order to sign Rantanen or Marner

Get some picks and prospects while also signing a big time player for free

? Why Peterka? I don’t think they’re moving Peterka. If they were we should be the ones with the high bid.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Oh I agree- Karlsson is is a very productive players. I'm just saying when you teams are trying to shed salary- it's usually at a cost


Not to mention burning of assets to get rid of the bad salaries he signed (as well as dead cap)

I just don't believe the Penguins will prioritize shaving salary in a rising cap environment over accumulating draft picks and young talent. GM Dougie Howser also has some reputational issue with bad decisions on Karlsson and Jarry. Giving up essentially 2 first round picks to acquire and then flush Karlsson within one-and-a-half season should frankly be a fireable offense were it to happen.

As I've believed from early this season, I think there is a deal scenario for Karlsson but it is a razor thin like to make it work whether Edmonton or others.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Our cupboard is not even empty. It's actually underrated.

What, with the one guy that we didn't even draft?

 

[McDoused]

I’d rather trade for Peterka rather than a Rantanen. This team needs to get way younger (I hope management see this during the offseason and brings in some younger talent)

When asked about it, Frank said that this summer will be the summer of offer sheets. RFA's are going to get paid and Buffalo is scared. These players are going to make a lot of money with the cap going up. I wouldn't be surprised to see Peterka get 6-7 mill despite being an RFA.

 

[Canovin]

What, with the one guy that we didn't even draft?

How many contenders have a player like Savoie waiting in the mix? On top of that we have Sam OReilly, Akey, Beryozkin, Paul Fischer etc all NHL material