Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Savoie Gets an Audition With the Trade Deadline Looming

[FlameChampion]

Hey y’all, Bruins fan here. Good luck in this post season, I hope you guys bring the cup home. Just wanted to feel this out…

Proposal
To Edmonton: Marchand (50% retained), Frederic (50% retained), Peeke (50% retained), 2025 3rd

To Boston: Savoie, 2026 1st, 2025 2nd (Blues original pick), conditional 2026 3rd if Marchand signs

Edmonton gets a huge boost with Marchand, a little grit in Frederic, depth and stability with Peeke under the cap I believe.


Another iteration:

To Edmonton: Frederic(50% retained), Peeke(50% retained), Brazzeau (50% retained), 2025 3rd

To Boston: Arvidsson, Savoie, 2025 2nd (Blues)

Edmonton gets a cap dump with Arvy, and beefs up offensive and defensive depth while leaving room for a bigger splash at the TDL.

Frederic and Carlo make sense to me. No idea if Carlo would want to come here being American or if Boston even wants to move him.

 

[Soundwave]

I can't believe im saying that but I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Binnington is over Skinner. Skinner is only making 2.6M for 1 more year. He shouldn't be hard to move off of if he contrinues to struggle.

Binnington makes 6M for 2 more years with trade protection. If he doesn't improve here that could be an absolute anchor.

I don't think 1 good game at the 4 nations changes how poorly Binnington has been for the blues. He's 37th in the league in xGSAA with 2. Skinner ranks 72nd with a -3. All things equal, that only improves the GA's by 5.

You could argue that the extra 3.4M is better utilized on a top 4 defenceman.

For example a defenceman like Brett Pesce averages 2.07 GA/60 5v5. The hope here would be a player like Pesce can take some of the harder minutes that are currently going to Brett Kulak (2.69 GA/60) or Emberson (2.68). Thats a difference of roughly 0.6 GA/60. Lets assume that player is logging 18 minutes of TOI 5v5. That means in total they would play 1476 minutes over 82 games. I believe that's (1476/60)*0.6 = a reduction of 14.76 GA 5v5.

That doesn't even account for a reduction you might see from an improve penalty kill.

Pretty sure Brett Pesce is not available.

In a playoff series, Binnington would be way better to have than Skinner.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

The 17 minute mark will make alot of people in these parts really mad.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

The 19 minute mark will make alot of people in these parts really mad.

What did he say? I’m out of country and my wifi is super choppy.

 

[Soundwave]

The 19 minute mark will make alot of people in these parts really mad.

I don't expect him to answer that question any other way though. If he takes the bait and says "yeah we need a goalie" the price just goes up 25% right there on the spot. He also says he's not making a declaration one way or the other.

 

[McDoused]

Pretty sure Brett Pesce is not available.

In a playoff series, Binnington would be way better to have than Skinner.

I mean the point is to bring in someone like that.

I'm also not convinced he wouldn't become available. Dougie Hamilton is their top pairing guy, Kovacevic is going to get a large increase and at some point they need to make room for Nemec and Casey.

 

[North]

Can someone explain how the Oilers went from potentially having $8 - $9 million in cap space at the deadline to now being a dollar-in-dollar-out team? What the f happened?

Not accruing anymore and they don’t have any clarity on Kane yet.

 

[Heavy Dee]

The Hurricanes will want a lot because they gave up Necas and the cap hit this year isn't the only thing you have to consider.

He's going to want $13 million on an extension, so how do you make that work with Drai at 14, probably McDavid at 16, Nurse at 9 and Bouchard likely also is going to want 9 minimum.

I'd make a call and inquire sure, but that's going to be very difficult for the Oilers to make work.

Canes panicked there. That could be a disastrous outcome for them.

 

[Canovin]

I know a lot of people don't like him but not going for JT Miller was a missed opportunity. Ideal PPG 2C making 8M

 

[Stoneman89]

They had the ability to make Holloway work if they wanted to. The choice was made to accrue cap space for the deadline instead. At some point they also abandoned that plan and called up extra players/claimed Kapanen on waivers taking the team tight to the cap and the defense for this was they had Kane LTIR to play with.

If they also can't do that then it means that either the front office botched their own plan completely or maybe never even had an actual plan in the first place.

My point is that it was botched long before Stan Bowman got here. Signing Kapanen (at minimum) was likely a fallback, knowing that Holloway and Broberg were asking for far more than their remaining cap could handle.

 

[North]

The 17 minute mark will make alot of people in these parts really mad.

Isn’t this the information from last Friday?

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I know a lot of people don't like him but not going for JT Miller was a missed opportunity. Ideal PPG 2C making 8M

No way Canucks send us JT Miller and I doubt he would come here.

 

[Cloned]

The 17 minute mark will make alot of people in these parts really mad.

Caveat: this interview was done on Friday before the 3 straight losses.

I can’t imagine Bowman is too happy right now with a number of things.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Can someone explain how the Oilers went from potentially having $8 - $9 million in cap space at the deadline to now being a dollar-in-dollar-out team? What the f happened?

The hot dog guy is drumming up pointless controversy

The 17 minute mark will make alot of people in these parts really mad.

For the love of GOD MAN This was on FRIDAY. Before the debacle

What did he say? I’m out of country and my wifi is super choppy.

Nothing. This was from friggin friday

The 17 minute mark will make alot of people in these parts really mad.

And also, why did he say the opposite to Spector on Monday?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Can someone explain how the Oilers went from potentially having $8 - $9 million in cap space at the deadline to now being a dollar-in-dollar-out team? What the f happened?

A player got healthy or is trending towards in season health.

 

[Oilhawks]

Isn’t this the information from last Friday?

It is, Frank is just being a contrarian to look smart if the Oilers don’t trade for a goalie

 

[Cloned]

Also if management are ruthless they absolutely should be trading RNH. Guy doesn’t do squat in the playoffs and he can never elevate his game.

In the past you could say his versatility and importance to the PP and PK were factors, but the PK sucks again and the PP is limp more often than not with him on it.

 

[McShogun99]

I have faith that we’ll plug the holes by the deadline. Even with the flaws in our roster we’re still a top team but any year that we don’t win the Cup should be considered a failure for the next 4-5 seasons.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Also if management are ruthless they absolutely should be trading RNH. Guy doesn’t do squat in the playoffs and he can never elevate his game.

In the past you could say his versatility and importance to the PP and PK were factors, but the PK sucks again and the PP is limp more often than not with him on it.

I was thinking about this too, boy that's a big swing to take imo.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Laughton is a 1st round pick. If a team needs to send a contract back the price will be a 1st+.

Jake Evans will likely get a 2nd round pick.

Rantanen getting moved is possible. He didn't want to be traded and doesn't think he signs with them. Thinks Necas is free now that he is having fun playing hockey.

Laughton was a first round pick 13 years ago.

 

[McDoused]

Hey y’all, Bruins fan here. Good luck in this post season, I hope you guys bring the cup home. Just wanted to feel this out…

Proposal
To Edmonton: Marchand (50% retained), Frederic (50% retained), Peeke (50% retained), 2025 3rd

To Boston: Savoie, 2026 1st, 2025 2nd (Blues original pick), conditional 2026 3rd if Marchand signs

Edmonton gets a huge boost with Marchand, a little grit in Frederic, depth and stability with Peeke under the cap I believe.


Another iteration:

To Edmonton: Frederic(50% retained), Peeke(50% retained), Brazzeau (50% retained), 2025 3rd

To Boston: Arvidsson, Savoie, 2025 2nd (Blues)

Edmonton gets a cap dump with Arvy, and beefs up offensive and defensive depth while leaving room for a bigger splash at the TDL.

Welcome the HFOil. I appreciate the proposals.

1. Marchand AND Frederic would be nice for the Oilers. I don't think Boston would realistically use all 3 retention slots on a single trade. I think any deal with Marchand would involve our 2026 1st (which is going to be a better draft than this year). I'm okay trading that 1st for Marchand. I don't see us packaging arguably our best pick with our best prospect though. Trading Savoie just doesn't make sense for aging ufas (regardless of if they decide to sign here). Marchand will be 37 in May. He's still producing this year but that could change dramatically each year. I think the Oilers wan't to get younger and faster. Trading Savoie doesn't do that.

2. Same as #1, I don't see 3 retention slots being used as realistic. From the Oiler side, we wouldn't be targeting both Frederic AND Brazzeau. It would likely just be one or the other. I have no issue moving the STL 2nd and Arvidsson. Savoie isn't available for rentals. I also don't see Peeke as being an upgrade on what we have in Emberson.

 

[Cloned]

I was thinking about this too, boy that's a big swing to take imo.

Is it though? His contributions on ice aren’t actually that impactful considering his linemates and usage.

The only thing that would make it a big swing is the sentimentality factor. I don’t even think chemistry is a factor because who does he really have good chemistry with on this team?

 

[McDoused]

Can we send Dermott down?

 

[Cloned]

We claimed Dermott lol.

 

[Soundwave]

I got a fever and the only cure is more Dermott - Oilers front office probably. Though I do wonder if they are moving off the idea of having to trade for a D this deadline. The last few weeks have likely been eye opening about the forward and goalie positions for them.