Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Savoie Gets an Audition With the Trade Deadline Looming

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In all seriousness, a game 7 finals appearance may have piqued his interest as well: “I could have won that game”

He probably would have. I'm not even that big of a fan of his, but dude comes to play in the biggest games.

Putting up a .970 in a Stanley Cup Finals game 7 on the opponent's home ice when they have their home crowd to give them a boost is big time. That only goal Boston got was a garbage time goal with 3 minutes left in the game and already down 4-0 too. He shut them down.
 
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Frank Seravelli basically doubling down on what he said previously.



Saying that Kane could be coming back and our deadline will likely be dollar in dollar out.

Also saying that because of that, we can really only afford one move. He believes based on his conversation with Bowman on Friday, that they believe that goaltending isn't what's holding them back. He thinks that we need a dman to play with Nurse as our top priority.


f*** what Bowman told him on Friday. There have been 3 shit goaltending (yes the whole team sucked but goaltending didn’t do them any favours) since then. If Bowman is still that stubborn and stupid, fire him today
 
Just to iterate the point:

RNH - McDavid - Hyman
Holloway - Draisaitl - Arvidsson
Skinner - Henrique - Brown
Janmark - Ryan - Perry

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Stetcher
Kulak - Emberson

Skinner
Pickard

And you're under the cap with a little room to spare. But yeah that's essentially your team until you get a little more certainty on Evander Kane.
 
Yeah I don't see how this conclusion could be drawn because there are zero goaltending stats I can think of that Skinner isn't near the bottom of the league in.

Unless you think wins are a goaltending stat I guess.

lol every possible goaltending stat says he has been terrible this year. I just don’t understand this.
Well apparently he's had a three month stretch where he was 6th best in the league, and stats in October don't matter! ;)
 
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Some people (Gregor, Rishaug, posters here) say Skinner "proved" the team can win the cup with him, even though the team literally lost. At least Binnington has actually won the cup. Not to mention that there is no universe in which Skinner plays like Binnington in that final game against the US.
AT LEAST BINNINGTON HAS WON STUFF TWICE.
Frank Seravelli basically doubling down on what he said previously.



Saying that Kane could be coming back and our deadline will likely be dollar in dollar out.

Also saying that because of that, we can really only afford one move. He believes based on his conversation with Bowman on Friday, that they believe that goaltending isn't what's holding them back. He thinks that we need a dman to play with Nurse as our top priority.

F*** this team's management and their complacency towards our goaltending. They'll get what they deserve in the playoffs if they fail to improve it. Mark my words.
 
At this point I would pay whatever to get a 2C that can drive his own line. Just play McDavid and Drai permanently together.

And also get a starting goalie.

Ive said this before as well. I think it would improve the line chemistry because then we aren’t shifting the lines around every other game. Probably keeps McDrai happy as well.

Getting a 2C won’t be easy though.
 
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Just to iterate the point:

RNH - McDavid - Hyman
Holloway - Draisaitl - Arvidsson
Skinner - Henrique - Brown
Janmark - Ryan - Perry

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Stetcher
Kulak - Emberson

Skinner
Pickard

And you're under the cap with a little room to spare. But yeah that's essentially your team until you get a little more certainty on Evander Kane.

I don't understand the math here. The Oilers are currently over the cap and $47k into Kanes LTIR. How does changing Klingberg (1.75) to Holloway (2.3) get us under the cap with room to spare?

Unfortunately, matching Holloway would have put us further into LTIR.

AT LEAST BINNINGTON HAS WON STUFF TWICE.

F*** this team's management and their complacency towards our goaltending. They'll get what they deserve in the playoffs of they fail to improve it. Mark my words.

I mean the argument isn't that we shouldn't upgrade on the goaltending. The argument is that we don't have the cap space or assets to make it happen. Adding a 6M goalie in Binnington or Gibson will be almost impossible in a dollar in, dollar out scenario.
 
I don't understand the math here. The Oilers are currently over the cap and $47k into Kanes LTIR. How does changing Klingberg (1.75) to Holloway (2.3) get us under the cap with room to spare?

Unfortunately, matching Holloway would have put us further into LTIR.

You don't claim Kapanen or Trade for Podkolzin.

And Savoie is in Bakersfield.
 
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You don't claim Kapanen or Trade for Podkolzin.

And Savoie is in Bakersfield.

All of those players are making 1M or less.

The only way we "save money" and could "afford" Holloway is to shorten the bench and run a 20-man roster. Running an NHL team on a 20 man roster is completely unrealistic, especially for a western conference team with the travel that we have.

Matching Holloway would have meant dipping into LTIR or dumping another contract.
 
All of those players are making 1M or less.

The only way we "save money" and could "afford" Holloway is to shorten the bench and run a 20-man roster. Running an NHL team on a 20 man roster is completely unrealistic, especially for a western conference team with the travel that we have.

Matching Holloway would have meant dipping into LTIR or dumping another contract.

So unrealistic the Oilers themselves did it for almost all of last season.

I'm not even necessarily trying to argue that the Oilers made the wrong choice here by the way, I'm just making it clear that they made a choice. No hands were forced.
 
If Utah is open for business, maybe that's a place to make some moves.

To UTA: Arvidsson, Stu Skinner, Akey, 2027 1st and 2025 2nd

To EDM: Crouse, Maatta (50% retained) and Vejmelka (50% retained)

To DET: Joel Maatta & 2027 4th (50% retentions on Maatta and Vejmelka)

Follow it up with a couple more moves.

To CGY: Pickard and a 2025 4th

To EDM: Vladar (50% retained...hopefully)

then

To BOS: 2026 2nd and 3rd

To EDM: Fredrick (50% retained)

The team looks liked

Crouse - McDavid - Hyman
Skinner - Draisaitl - Podkolzin
Nuge - Fredrick - Brown
Janmark - Henrique - Perry
Savoie, Kapanen

Ekholm - Bouchard
Kulak - Nurse
Maatta - Emberson
Klingberg, Stetcher

Vejmelka
Vladar
 
Hey y’all, Bruins fan here. Good luck in this post season, I hope you guys bring the cup home. Just wanted to feel this out…

Proposal
To Edmonton: Marchand (50% retained), Frederic (50% retained), Peeke (50% retained), 2025 3rd

To Boston: Savoie, 2026 1st, 2025 2nd (Blues original pick), conditional 2026 3rd if Marchand signs

Edmonton gets a huge boost with Marchand, a little grit in Frederic, depth and stability with Peeke under the cap I believe.


Another iteration:

To Edmonton: Frederic(50% retained), Peeke(50% retained), Brazzeau (50% retained), 2025 3rd

To Boston: Arvidsson, Savoie, 2025 2nd (Blues)

Edmonton gets a cap dump with Arvy, and beefs up offensive and defensive depth while leaving room for a bigger splash at the TDL.
 
Hey y’all, Bruins fan here. Good luck in this post season, I hope you guys bring the cup home. Just wanted to feel this out…

Proposal
To Edmonton: Marchand (50% retained), Frederic (50% retained), Peeke (50% retained), 2025 3rd

To Boston: Savoie, 2026 1st, 2025 2nd (Blues original pick), conditional 2026 3rd if Marchand signs

Edmonton gets a huge boost with Marchand, a little grit in Frederic, depth and stability with Peeke under the cap I believe.


Another iteration:

To Edmonton: Frederic(50% retained), Peeke(50% retained), Brazzeau (50% retained), 2025 3rd

To Boston: Arvidsson, Savoie, 2025 2nd (Blues)

Edmonton gets a cap dump with Arvy, and beefs up offensive and defensive depth while leaving room for a bigger splash at the TDL.

I think Marchand is just too old for us. All year the press has been saying we got too old and slow and losing Savoie after losing Holloway and Broberg probably has some ugly optics to it.

I also question whether or not Boston is really going to pull the chute on the season, they're only 2 points out of a wild card spot.

We still need a goalie.
 
Hey y’all, Bruins fan here. Good luck in this post season, I hope you guys bring the cup home. Just wanted to feel this out…

Proposal
To Edmonton: Marchand (50% retained), Frederic (50% retained), Peeke (50% retained), 2025 3rd

To Boston: Savoie, 2026 1st, 2025 2nd (Blues original pick), conditional 2026 3rd if Marchand signs

Edmonton gets a huge boost with Marchand, a little grit in Frederic, depth and stability with Peeke under the cap I believe.


Another iteration:

To Edmonton: Frederic(50% retained), Peeke(50% retained), Brazzeau (50% retained), 2025 3rd

To Boston: Arvidsson, Savoie, 2025 2nd (Blues)

Edmonton gets a cap dump with Arvy, and beefs up offensive and defensive depth while leaving room for a bigger splash at the TDL.
lolz. The Bruins aren't getting Savoie in either of those deals and you're not dumping Peeke on the Oilers lol.
 
I think Marchand is just too old for us. All year the press has been saying we got too old and slow and losing Savoie after losing Holloway and Broberg probably has some ugly optics to it.

I also question whether or not Boston is really going to pull the chute on the season, they're only 2 points out of a wild card spot.

We still need a goalie.
I hear ya, but Marchand is still a highly formidable scorer and only second on our team to Pasta. Also provides leadership. He can immediately go on any line. And if you want to sign him an extra year, it’s possible.

As for selling, it’s going to happen, especially after last night, but to which degree is obviously unsure, this is just hypothetical so more of a would you than will it happen. Our GM did say though that we are moving on from all UFAs over the weekend, so there’s that at least. Last night he said Marchand has an offer but hasn’t accepted and they’ll do what’s best for the team if he doesn’t accept it in the next week.

I hear you on Savoie though that’s your best non roster trade chip at the moment.
 
If Utah is open for business, maybe that's a place to make some moves.

To UTA: Arvidsson, Stu Skinner, Akey, 2027 1st and 2025 2nd

To EDM: Crouse, Maatta (50% retained) and Vejmelka (50% retained)

To DET: Joel Maatta & 2027 4th (50% retentions on Maatta and Vejmelka)

Follow it up with a couple more moves.

To CGY: Pickard and a 2025 4th

To EDM: Vladar (50% retained...hopefully)

then

To BOS: 2026 2nd and 3rd

To EDM: Fredrick (50% retained)

The team looks liked

Crouse - McDavid - Hyman
Skinner - Draisaitl - Podkolzin
Nuge - Fredrick - Brown
Janmark - Henrique - Perry
Savoie, Kapanen

Ekholm - Bouchard
Kulak - Nurse
Maatta - Emberson
Klingberg, Stetcher

Vejmelka
Vladar
Sweeney won’t accept only 2026s for Freddy, he will want one of the blues picks at the minimum.
 
He probably liked that McDavid said “binner is a winner” while defending him against the hate

I can't believe im saying that but I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Binnington is over Skinner. Skinner is only making 2.6M for 1 more year. He shouldn't be hard to move off of if he contrinues to struggle.

Binnington makes 6M for 2 more years with trade protection. If he doesn't improve here that could be an absolute anchor.

I don't think 1 good game at the 4 nations changes how poorly Binnington has been for the blues. He's 37th in the league in GSAx with 2. Skinner ranks 72nd with a -3. All things equal, that only improves the GA's by 5.

You could argue that the extra 3.4M is better utilized on a top 4 defenceman.

For example a defenceman like Brett Pesce averages 2.07 GA/60 5v5. The hope here would be a player like Pesce can take some of the harder minutes that are currently going to Brett Kulak (2.69 GA/60) or Emberson (2.68). Thats a difference of roughly 0.6 GA/60. Lets assume that player is logging 18 minutes of TOI 5v5. That means in total they would play 1476 minutes over 82 games. I believe that's (1476/60)*0.6 = a reduction of 14.76 GA 5v5.

That doesn't even account for a reduction you might see from an improve penalty kill.

A goalie like Gibson makes more sense with an GSAx of 15.5, which is an 18.5 difference. Thats a larger GA reduction then what you would see from adding a top 4 dman.
 

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