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[CantHaveTkachev]

They need to win it all this year or at least be in the Finals and I doubt Skinner is up for it. So that either changes or welp.

Especially after he has tasted that win and had his golden goal moment for Team Canada, going from that high to a let down ending this season wouldn't be ... good.

I would not expect him to be in any rush to sign an extension here if the poorly built roster here can't get the job done.

There's literally pretty much nothing else for Connor to win now except a Cup and if they can't do it this year, you have to ask if it's ever gonna happen here. Like Hyman is gonna be 33? Ekholm 35? Where is the improvement supposed to come from?

there is not a single solitary roster out there that guarantees them a Cup....none
the 2 best goalies in the league didn't make the Cup finals

the 5th overall team won the Cup last year and the year before

 

[FlameChampion]

there is not a single solitary roster out there that guarantees them a Cup....none
the 2 best goalies in the league didn't make the Cup finals

the 5th overall team won the Cup last year and the year before

Long story short. Toronto is winning the cup because they are fifth?

 

[soothsayer]

if the new goalie tandem fail to deliver anything less than a Cup, it means the tandem of Skinner/Pickard were more successful than any goalie here since Roloson/Markkanen

no pressure

What

 

[Jarvi]

Crazy theory, the deal is held up by retention and that is also why the org has media heads carrying water with the "Kane might be back before playoffs" stuff.

If we are one of the only suitors rn, we can say we NEED the retention because Kane may be back, and it also would have previously helped Ducks stay above the cap floor.

Ducks in response, trade for Husso from Verbeeks old buddy Stevie Y. Now they can say "nah, take the whole contract. We don't need to retain shit to hit the floor." Essentially calling the Kane bluff.

Idk, maybe I'm nuts.

 

[Soundwave]

there is not a single solitary roster out there that guarantees them a Cup....none
the 2 best goalies in the league didn't make the Cup finals

the 5th overall team won the Cup last year and the year before

There isn’t but if they don’t win here now it’s going to get progressively harder.

Hyman and Ekholm are not young and we have no replacements for them in the pipeline.

McDavid will have given 12 of the best years of his career to us, we have to make a Cup happen like now, otherwise you can’t really fault the player for looking elsewhere.

He would be stupid to sign away what is left of his productive years to a team that can’t even find a starting goalie and has a bunch of other holes on the roster.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Long story short. Toronto is winning the cup because they are fifth?

thats probably why we've dropped the last few...3rd was too high

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

There isn’t but if they don’t win here now it’s going to get progressively harder.

Hyman and Ekholm are not young and we have no replacements for them in the pipeline.

McDavid will have given 12 of the best years of his career to us, we have to make a Cup happen like now, otherwise you can’t really fault the player for looking elsewhere.

He would be stupid to sign away what is left of his productive years to a team that can’t even find a starting goalie and has a bunch of other holes on the roster.

nah, I doubt he signs elsewhere, especially with his best buddy Draisaitl re-signing here

the cap is going up massively and the Oilers will always be a cap team and sign players looking to play with McDrai...heck, that's why there's whispers of Rantanen signing here

again, not a single team out there guarantee him a Cup and he's a legacy guy...his legacy is winning a Cup in Edmonton

 

[McShogun99]

The other major problem the Oilers have is guys like Hyman and Ekholm are getting to the age where a decline in their play is natural.

They don't have all the time in the world just because McDavid is 27. Who in the pipeline is replacing Ekholm and Hyman? Nobody.

It's now or

Broberg and Holloway. Whoops, I meant Emberson and Podz…

 

[McShogun99]

nah, I doubt he signs elsewhere, especially with his best buddy Draisaitl re-signing here

the cap is going up massively and the Oilers will always be a cap team and sign players looking to play with McDrai...heck, that's why there's whispers of Rantanen signing here

again, not a single team out there guarantee him a Cup and he's a legacy guy...his legacy is winning a Cup in Edmonton

Mcdavid and his family are treated like royalty by Katz, the organization and the city. His agent is the president and they just signed one of his best friends to an 8 year deal. I’ll go with him signing a contract extension at 97%.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Anaheim is actually on the hook for 1.3 million for Husso for a few months. I believe just because a player is even in the AHL doesn't impact the fact that they still get their full NHL salary, it's just calculated on the cap differently but that's it. As far I know anyway.



No one cares that specifically about the goalie position. This is all about McDavid and Draisaitl, they have little chance of winning a Cup with this present tandem and that's what people actually care about. I couldn't give a shit if the goalie was Lappo Kappo from Finland.

I don't think it's a given McDavid signs an extension here automatically this summer at all. If this team hasn't won one in 10 years, why should he feel like it's a given they will win one in the future? He has to do what's best for him, he's accomplished everything he was hyped to be better than Crosby and he has lived up to that billing. It's not his duty to suffer through bad management forever.

Lol give it a rest, McDavid is 1000% extending this summer without question, whether they win the cup this year or not.

Everything this organization has done from Katz down has been about McDavid, the people closest to him have committed to the team and the city from his wife, to his best teammate and friend, to the man who’s guided his entire career. Jackson isnt going to leave Wasserman and Draisaitl isn’t signing a full 8 years if there was even a shred of doubt McDavid wasn’t in it for the long haul.

People who think there’s even a chance he’s not extending here when his contract is up are as dumb as the hoards of clueless Leafs fans who jerk off to the idea every night.

I’ll bet any amount of money he is extending here because it’s a sure thing, maybe it’s not a full 8 years, maybes it’s 4-5-6 but there’s absolutely zero chance he walks, zero.

 

[Soundwave]

Lol give it a rest, McDavid is 1000% extending this summer without question, whether they win the cup this year or not.

Everything this organization has done from Katz down has been about McDavid, the people closest to him have committed to the team and the city from his wife, to his best teammate and friend, to the man who’s guided his entire career. Jackson isnt going to leave Wasserman and Draisaitl isn’t signing a full 8 years if there was even a shred of doubt McDavid wasn’t in it for the long haul.

People who think there’s even a chance he’s not extending here when his contract is up are as dumb as the hoards of clueless Leafs fans who jerk off to the idea every night.

I’ll bet any amount of money he is extending here because it’s a sure thing, maybe it’s not a full 8 years, maybes it’s 4-5-6 but there’s absolutely zero chance he walks, zero.

I don’t think it’s a given at all. He may well choose to wait a year and see what his options are if this team keeps having bizarre weaknesses all over the roster that are stopping him from winning a Cup.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I don’t think it’s a given at all. He may well choose to wait a year and see what his options are if this team keeps having bizarre weaknesses all over the roster that are stopping him from winning a Cup.

Let’s bet on it then.

McDavid has everything he wants here including input he’s not going to get anywhere else and a caliber of player in Draisaitl he’s not going to find almost anywhere else. If in confidence to Jackson/Bowman, McDavid says the team needs to go out and do something about goaltending, then they’ll go out and do something about goaltending. That’s the way it goes here and he’s going to dictate what happens here before he hands Draisaitl out to dry and jumps ship on everyone.

 

[CrazyJoeDavola]

I feel like Kane is just being an asshole and doesnt give a shit about helping the team. He's on his own timeline and everyone else be damned. Can't wait to ship his ass out this summer.

Posting himself "skating"...etc. Just rubs me the wrong way. There's no reason why his situation shouldn't already be known and prepared for. By all accounts, it's not some way for the org to cover their ass and pretend like he's ready, it's literally just Kane not being upfront.

Bowman said he'll have clarity by Mar. 1. Like wtf? A week before the TDL?

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

this place will melt down if the Oilers don't get a goalie lol

I'm here for it

Stan Bowman in a recent interview said he's not trading for a goalie.

 

[Soundwave]

Let’s bet on it then.

Bet what exactly? I don't even say it's a given he'll leave Edmonton but if they don't win this year (or at the very, very bare minimum make the Finals), I don't think he's just going to sign an extension on July 1, 2025.

I think he will wait and see how the following season goes and explore his options. I don't think he gives a shit about the 8 years versus 7, he's made more money than any hockey player ever, this will go beyond money.

I've never seen anyone I think take a Finals loss harder than Connor McDavid. The hurt I saw on his face really was more than even I expected and I knew he wanted it bad. It's clear to a lot of posters here that it still weighs on him. Some people really want a Cup. This guy doesn't want a Cup. He *has* to have one. And not a token Ray Bourque Cup is gonna do it either I don't think. It has to be a Cup with him in his prime as the defacto best player on the team.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Guys I have a theory on why we don't know anything on Kane's situation yet. Seravalli says we get clarity on Kane's situation on March 1st.

That's the day his NMC ends..

Stan Bowman in a recent interview said he's not trading for a goalie.

That interview was done on Friday.

He did one on sportsnet today. He said he's not ruling out a goaltender

 

[McHelpus]

this place will melt down if the Oilers don't get a goalie lol

I'm here for it

It's going be the purge and you will be everyone's first target

 

[McTonyBrar]

I feel like Kane is just being an asshole and doesnt give a shit about helping the team. He's on his own timeline and everyone else be damned. Can't wait to ship his ass out this summer.

Posting himself "skating"...etc. Just rubs me the wrong way. There's no reason why his situation shouldn't already be known and prepared for. By all accounts, it's not some way for the org to cover their ass and pretend like he's ready, it's literally just Kane not being upfront.

Bowman said he'll have clarity by Mar. 1. Like wtf? A week before the TDL?

That's the day his NMC ends lol.

I don't think Kane is being an asshole at all. I think this is Bowman conveniently saying he will know by March 1st, so his NMC ends, and he can trade him to the team he has lined up perhaps

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Bet what exactly? I don't even say it's a given he'll leave Edmonton but if they don't win this year (or at the very, very bare minimum make the Finals), I don't think he's just going to sign an extension on July 1, 2025.

I think he will wait and see how the following season goes and explore his options. I don't think he gives a shit about the 8 years versus 7, he's made more money than any hockey player ever, this will go beyond money.

I've never seen anyone I think take a Finals loss harder than Connor McDavid. The hurt I saw on his face really was more than even I expected and I knew he wanted it bad. It's clear to a lot of posters here that it still weighs on him. Some people really want a Cup. This guy doesn't want a Cup. He *has* to have one. And not a token Ray Bourque Cup is gonna do it either I don't think. It has to be a Cup with him in his prime as the defacto best player on the team.

Let’s bet on him re-signing this off season, no matter the results in the playoffs.

You’re projecting your own bullshit about the hurt on his face and what you think is going on in his head. Same with your odd Ray Bourque comparison, I guarantee you McDavid doesn’t care how or when he wins, a cup is a cup. Besides he’s got a lot of good years left in him and he knows it. Crosby is a decade older and still almost putting up 100 pt seasons.

 

[Soundwave]

Let’s bet on him re-signing this off season, no matter the results in the playoffs.

You’re projecting your own bullshit about the hurt on his face and what you think is going on in his head. Same with your odd Ray Bourque comparison, I guarantee you McDavid doesn’t care how or when he wins, a cup is a cup. Besides he’s got a lot of good years left in him and he knows it. Crosby is a decade older and still almost putting up 100 pt seasons.

I just don't think so. He needs a Cup. Winning a Cup isn't just a nice bonus for him, he has to have one. Really honestly 2 is probably the minimum, 1 alone is just barely OK.

The other thing is that golden goal for Canada I think pretty much buries any chatter that he is not Crosby's heir apparent and/or is not a big game player.

He is the "chosen one" he was hyped to be, that goal more or less sealed it and has made him into Canada's hero from coast to coast and forced respect from any doubting Americans too. I have heard from even dyed in the wool Flames and Canucks fans who bitterly clung to the "McDavid is no Crosby" thing finally give on that and admit "yeah, he's THE guy now".

He is who he is supposed to be. No doubting it now. But that kinda puts all the pressure now on the Oilers because if they lose, it's more that people are going to start to more loudly say it's the organization's fault. The player has won a Conn Smythe and produced the biggest goal in hockey in the last decade at least.

He's not the problem, that problem is going to be looked at as the Oilers organization. I'm glad for him that he won that game and he got his golden moment in almost identical fashion to Crosby (can't write it any better than that, damn near eerie how that worked out virtually the same) but now the heat is really on here.

 

[McTonyBrar]

You're probably not going to believe me guys but here's a tidbit my source told me on Feb 13th (I kind of doubted them when I got told this), they said, on Feb 13th, that Evander Kane is someone that is now on the block. Team is kind of frustrated with his antics when it comes to his timeline on when he's back and that he has until March 1st to give the team a list of where'd want to go.

I honestly thought he was off his rocker but he may be right on this. Bowman told Seravalli that he will have more clarity on March 1st. He told him this on Friday.

My source may have just thrown shit at the fan but it sounds interesting at least

 

[Jumptheshark]

this place will melt down if the Oilers don't get a goalie lol

I'm here for it

When the schedule came out for this year--it was this stretch that most of looked at and went OH OH. Philly was the game I thought was a give me win. So these next few games could be interest.

What my concern is that if the oilers stumble against the Florida teams and the canes and if either Vancouver or Calgary start winning? Our little cushion could be gone quickly. we have 9pts on Vancouver and 10 on the flames. So far we have been lucky they have stumbled with us. LAK are 4-0-1 in their last 5 and have gained 5 pts on us.

This road trip will tell us the mentality of the team--if it is strong or weak

 

[Soundwave]

When the schedule came out for this year--it was this stretch that most of looked at and went OH OH. Philly was the game I thought was a give me win. So these next few games could be interest.

What my concern is that if the oilers stumble against the Florida teams and the canes and if either Vancouver or Calgary start winning? Our little cushion could be gone quickly. we have 9pts on Vancouver and 10 on the flames. So far we have been lucky they have stumbled with us. LAK are 4-0-1 in their last 5 and have gained 5 pts on us.

This road trip will tell us the mentality of the team--if it is strong or weak

Yup the whole team better put their work pants on. And no that doesn't just "well just wait around until Connor gives us a big game". You other f***ers on this team not named Connor McDavid or Leon Draisaitl better be ready to go tomorrow night. No excuses. You had your vacation, now it's wakey wakey time.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I just don't think so. He needs a Cup. Winning a Cup isn't just a nice bonus for him, he has to have one. Really honestly 2 is probably the minimum, 1 alone is just barely OK.

The other thing is that golden goal for Canada I think pretty much buries any chatter that he is not Crosby's heir apparent and/or is not a big game player.

He is the "chosen one" he was hyped to be, that goal more or less sealed it and has made him into Canada's hero from coast to coast and forced respect from any doubting Americans too. I have heard from even dyed in the wool Flames and Canucks fans who bitterly clung to the "McDavid is no Crosby" thing finally give on that and admit "yeah, he's THE guy now".

He is who he is supposed to be. No doubting it now. But that kinda puts all the pressure now on the Oilers because if they lose, it's more that people are going to start to more loudly say it's the organization's fault. The player has won a Conn Smythe and produced the biggest goal in hockey in the last decade at least.

He's not the problem, that problem is going to be looked at as the Oilers organization. I'm glad for him that he won that game and he got his golden moment in almost identical fashion to Crosby (can't write it any better than that) but now the heat is really on here.

Lol this is cult level shit to try and justify your Mcdavid won’t re-sign conspiracy narrative.

It’s been a broad consensus for a long time now that Mcdavid is the next torch bearer in the all time greats lineage. I don’t see how some mongrel Canucks and Flames fans with stupid opinions like yourself finally admitting that he’s the best because he scored the game winner in a made up money grab mid season tournament that didn’t even feature arguably the second greatest hockey nation is some sort of final anointing factor in him attaining a god like status in your eyes.

McDavid is going to get his cup at some point and cement his legacy, most likely it’s in Edmonton but maybe it’s not, personally though I’ll never count out a team with McDavid and Draisaitl.

 

[Soundwave]

Lol this is cult level shit to try and justify your Mcdavid won’t re-sign conspiracy narrative.

It’s been a broad consensus for a long time now that Mcdavid is the next torch bearer in the all time greats lineage. I don’t see how some mongrel Canucks and Flames fans with stupid opinions like yourself finally admitting that he’s the best because he scored the game winner in a made up money grab mid season tournament that didn’t even feature arguably the second greatest hockey nation is some sort of final anointing factor in him attaining a god like status in your eyes.

McDavid is going to get his cup at some point and cement his legacy, most likely it’s in Edmonton but maybe it’s not, personally though I’ll never count out a team with McDavid and Draisaitl.

McDavid scoring that goal in improbable just like Crosby fashion in arguably an even more intense Canada-USA Final is his "Neo can dodge bullets" moment.

If there was any doubt that he is him, that's over. Even in Calgary, the radio station full of Flames fans was felating McDavid as the second coming this week and how they can't wait to cheer for him again in the Olympics even though they hate the Oilers.

That win was massive for Canada and the sport in general. It's rare that country needs a sporting event, but Canada needed that, even coach Cooper said it in the post-game.

There is no doubt that he is a winner and he is clutch and he is everything he's supposed to be. Which means if he's not winning here, there's only one way the blame is going to go from now on. Which is fair I think anyway.

There is also legitimate questions about whether this team is built to win in the long run. Hyman and Ekholm are going to be 33 and 35 at the end of the playoffs this year. If they don't do it now, when is it supposed to happen? Those guys are respectively probably the 3rd and 4th most important pieces on the team (sorry Bouch) and they are not getting younger. I know Connor loves Leon but what else is on the team that is keeping him here. This team needs to build reasons for him to want to stay outside of just "yeah but you're buds with Leon right?". That can't be the only real hockey reason. This team needs to be great in some other way ... this shit they are trying to pass off in net is embarrassing for a contending team.