Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Savoie Gets an Audition With the Trade Deadline Looming

[Faelko]

Deadline is 2 weeks today!

I took the day off work so be prepared for a boring day haha

 

[ManofSteel55]

Binnington, like Skinner in Game 7, only gave up 2 goals...the difference being Canada managed to score a tying goal down 2-1 in a Championship game against an elite goalie...something the Oilers failed to do

Binnington also saved a huge number of high percentage scoring chances. Skinner has never had a game like Binnington had last night.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Binnington, like Skinner in Game 7, only gave up 2 goals...the difference being Canada managed to score a tying goal down 2-1 in a Championship game against an elite goalie...something the Oilers failed to do

Imagine thinking those games are remotely comparable.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

still banging this drum hey? Blame the best players to protect useless f***ing Skinner. Enjoy those moustache rides, Mrs. Skinner.

I'll bang it until people realize scoring 1 goal in a Championship game isn't gonna win titles

if Canada doesn't score a 2nd goal and lose 3-1, you know people would cry about goaltending...it's the timeless lazy narrative

 

[foshizzle]

GRAB HIM

Stauffer said this weeks ago. I posted it and laughed it off...could he have been on to something?

 

[McDoused]

Can you imagine what a Canuck fan would have said if a year ago, you predicted that the team would make 2 bad free agent signings, and then trade JT Miller and those two signings for Marcus Petterson, Drew O'Connor, and cap space to sign Kevin Lankinen to a 22.5M contract?

Canucks fans acting like the cap doesn't exist now that it's going up.

Out:
JT. Miller @ 8M

In:
M. Pettersson @ 5.5M
DOC @ 2.5M
Lankinen @ 4.5M
Chytil @ 4.437
---------------------
16.937M

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Binnington also saved a huge number of high percentage scoring chances. Skinner has never had a game like Binnington had last night.

that 2nd US goal last night was a result of Binnington swimming in his net...horrible positioning

luckily Canada managed to score a 2nd goal and he redeemed himself

 

[ManofSteel55]

I'll bang it until people realize scoring 1 goal in a Championship game isn't gonna win titles

if Canada doesn't score a 2nd goal and lose 3-1, you know people would cry about goaltending...it's the timeless lazy narrative

If Skinner had a game 7 like Binnington played last night, regulation probably ends at 1 - 1. Binnington didn't let in a softie like Skinner did on Florida's 2nd goal.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I'll bang it until people realize scoring 1 goal in a Championship game isn't gonna win titles

if Canada doesn't score a 2nd goal and lose 3-1, you know people would cry about goaltending...it's the timeless lazy narrative

Your narrative is just as lazy.

 

[TB12]

I'll bang it until people realize scoring 1 goal in a Championship game isn't gonna win titles

if Canada doesn't score a 2nd goal and lose 3-1, you know people would cry about goaltending...it's the timeless lazy narrative

Well enjoy life in the echo chamber, homie. Blaming the best players in the world is a stupid, lazy, "point at scoreboard" take. Skinner is a bad goalie and you are constantly pimping for him while bringing down Connor and Drai. Almost like scoring goals is a HELL of a lot harder than putting up a .900 in the playoffs. Your boy stinks and your takes are incomprehensibly stupid on this topic. It's very embarrassing to see you continue to beat this drum. We are all laughing at you.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Well enjoy life in the echo chamber, homie. Blaming the best players in the world is a stupid, lazy, "point at scoreboard" take. Skinner is a bad goalie and you are constantly pimping for him while bringing down Connor and Drai. Almost like scoring goals is a HELL of a lot harder than putting up a .900 in the playoffs. Your boy stinks and your takes are incomprehensibly stupid on this topic. It's very embarrassing to see you continue to beat this drum. We are all laughing at you.

I'm not blaming anyone...it's a 3-2 league and the elite goal scorers did their jobs, the depth did their jobs and the goalie did their jobs
but continue to cry about goaltending, homie

If Skinner had a game 7 like Binnington played last night, regulation probably ends at 1 - 1. Binnington didn't let in a softie like Skinner did on Florida's 2nd goal.

I mean, if the scorers on this team had a game like Canada last night, it's probably 2-2 going to OT in Game 7
same logic

Your narrative is just as lazy.

asking one of the highest scoring teams in the NHL to score more than 1 goal is "lazy"?

 

[TB12]

I'm not blaming anyone...it's a 3-2 league and the elite goal scorers did their jobs, the depth did their jobs and the goalie did their jobs
but continue to cry about goaltending, homie

I'm sticking up for Connor and Drai. I recognize greatness. You excuse mediocrity. The way you just so flippantly say "well they should have scored" over and over and over and over and over....like it's the easiest thing in the world. Especially when they CARRIED the team to game 7. While your boy took frequent dumps and slipped in it in his own crease,.

So yes, when you keep repeating the same "just score" nonsense I will push back, because it shows how little you know about hockey. "Score more". Wow, look at the big brain on this guy, buddy!

 

[Tobias Kahun]

that 2nd US goal last night was a result of Binnington swimming in his net...horrible positioning

luckily Canada managed to score a 2nd goal and he redeemed himself

You be defending skinner and blaming everyone else on that second goal against.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

This is a very realistic view on the goalie market and situation for the Oilers.

Gibson is a near zero chance.

Talbot I doubt Detroit trades him whether they’re in or out at the TD. They signed him for two years to be the transition to Cossa.

Vejmelka is probably most interesting, I’d say there’s a better chance of them keeping him rather than deal him but if the wheels come right off for them maybe they trade him to get something and look to bring him back in the summer.

Lyon is a guy who could be a good 1B option for cheap. Again who knows if Detroit would make him available if still in the hunt.

Quick is almost assured to be available if he wants and would come cheap. Not the same goalie he used to be but he’s a vet and has lots of playoff experience. Wouldn’t be a bad bet for a guy able to come in and give you a good run if Skinner craters.

The thing the Oilers have going for them is that there’s maybe one other playoff team looking for a goalie in Carolina and they might be fine with their pair. Oilers won’t be in a bidding war on any of these guys.

The reason I circle back 2 vejmelka, he catches the opposite hand, so teams get a different look and he's excellent on low and medium danger chances which is both the source of frustration and goes well with this good defending team.

He's my main target.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I'm not blaming anyone...it's a 3-2 league and the elite goal scorers did their jobs, the depth did their jobs and the goalie did their jobs
but continue to cry about goaltending, homie


I mean, if the scorers on this team had a game like Canada last night, it's probably 2-2 going to OT in Game 7
same logic


asking one of the highest scoring teams in the NHL to score more than 1 goal is "lazy"?

Sure but you can also admit Bob stood on his head and Skinner let in a back breaking softie. We allowed nothing. Ben scrivens would have walked out of that game with 2 goals against.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I'm sticking up for Connor and Drai. I recognize greatness. You excuse mediocrity. The way you just so flippantly say "well they should have scored" over and over and over and over and over....like it's the easiest thing in the world. Especially when they CARRIED the team to game 7. While your boy took frequent dumps and slipped in it in his own crease,.

So yes, when you keep repeating the same "just score" nonsense I will push back, because it shows how little you know about hockey. "Score more". Wow, look at the big brain on this guy, buddy!

they scored 1 goal... ONE GOAL...this team isn't built for tight 2-1 games...this isn't the 1995 NJ Devils with an elite defense and Brodeur in net...this is a high-octane offense that's EXPECTED to score more than 1 goal in games
those are facts, I'm sorry that hurts your feelings...or maybe you just don't realize how this team is built

Sure but you can also admit Bob stood on his head and Skinner let in a back breaking softie. We allowed nothing. Ben scrivens would have walked out of that game with 2 goals against.

Bob is getting paid 10 million to stand on his head...he's an elite goalie

 

[belair]

Canucks fans acting like the cap doesn't exist now that it's going up.

Out:
JT. Miller @ 8M

In:
M. Pettersson @ 5.5M
DOC @ 2.5M
Lankinen @ 4.5M
Chytil @ 4.437
---------------------
16.937M

That's a Jim Rutherford run team right there.

 

[soothsayer]

It's clear to me that some of these Skinner supporters are entirely divorced from reason, and it's not even worth discussing any criticism of Skinner with them.

 

[Cloned]

I'm not blaming anyone...it's a 3-2 league and the elite goal scorers did their jobs, the depth did their jobs and the goalie did their jobs
but continue to cry about goaltending, homie


I mean, if the scorers on this team had a game like Canada last night, it's probably 2-2 going to OT in Game 7
same logic


asking one of the highest scoring teams in the NHL to score more than 1 goal is "lazy"?

I’ll try to be objective here.

Skinner can have stretches where he stops lots of high danger chances.

The problem is (as we all know) consistency.

But also the problem is the types of high danger chances he stops:

If you put Skinner in place of Binnington yesterday, he probably stops a lot of the shots too. The issue is that when two good teams face each other (like last night or in a SCF), the margins are usually very thin between winning and losing. So while Skinner stops a lot of the same shots, the ones he wouldn’t stop are the difference between winning and losing.

Which ones wouldn’t he stop? A good portion of the chances where he has to be athletic and move laterally very quickly. In OT I don’t think he makes the first save on Matthews and if he somehow does I don’t think he makes the second save on Tkachuk. There’s a chance he doesn’t stop the 2 on 1 in the third period too. Canada needed ALL those saves to win because the margin was so thin.

So while you can say both Binnington and Skinner did their jobs in these big games, it’s clear one goalie had a bigger impact. And it just shows that even great teams need great goaltending sometimes to win it all. Saying the rest of the team should be strong enough to completely mask any goaltending weaknesses is unrealistic.

 

[TB12]

they scored 1 goal... ONE GOAL...this team isn't built for tight 2-1 games...this isn't the 1995 NJ Devils with an elite defense and Brodeur in net...this is a high-octane offense that's EXPECTED to score more than 1 goal in games
those are facts, I'm sorry that hurts your feelings...or maybe you just don't realize how this team is built

You know what? If Binner doesn't make some f***ing incredible saves last night, Connor doesn't get his chance to be a hero. But what happens? Goalie does his f***ing job and Connor gives us the best moment in Canadian hockey in over a decade. Because his goalie didn't give up a f***ing softie which allowed the other team to trap the shit out of them and defend and hold like their lives depended on it.

Game 7 Cup finals are always low scoring. Sucks that Moustache couldn't squeeze a shot from the half wall. Maybe if he keeps the game 1-1 he gives Connor a chance to go legend. Which is literally EXACTLY what happened last night. Binner did his job and gave Connor a chance to become legendary.

Even in the game thread for the 4 nations you're shitting on McDavid. f*** you're embarrassing yourself non-stop in here. Shitting on a first ballot hall of famer, and maybe one of the 3 best players of all time, consistently is just embarrassing man. Connor steal your girl, or what?

 

[Canovin]

If Stuart didn't let in the softie in game 7, who knows what magical moment Drai or McDavid could have given to us in OT

Binnington did exactly that on the biggest stage and McDavid delivered the golden goal

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

You know what? If Binner doesn't make some f***ing incredible saves last night, Connor doesn't get his chance to be a hero. But what happens? Goalie does his f***ing job and Connor gives us the best moment in Canadian hockey in over a decade. Because his goalie didn't give up a f***ing softie which allowed the other team to trap the shit out of them and defend and hold like their lives depended on it.

Connor went "legend" because Canada found a second goal after going down 2-1 in the second period
same logic

Game 7 Cup finals are always low scoring. Sucks that Moustache couldn't squeeze a shot from the half wall. Maybe if he keeps the game 1-1 he gives Connor a chance to go legend. Which is literally EXACTLY what happened last night. Binner did his job and gave Connor a chance to become legendary.

Connor went legend when it was 2-2... Canada, down 2-1, got the second goal the Oilers couldn't get after going down 2-1 spot the difference?

Even in the game thread for the 4 nations you're shitting on McDavid. f*** you're embarrassing yourself non-stop in here. Shitting on a first ballot hall of famer, and maybe one of the 3 best players of all time, consistently is just embarrassing man. Connor steal your girl, or what?

he was f***ing brutal in the first 3 periods....dude admitted it afterwards FFS
why is he above criticism?

I’ll try to be objective here.

Skinner can have stretches where he stops lots of high danger chances.

The problem is (as we all know) consistency.

But also the problem is the types of high danger chances he stops:

If you put Skinner in place of Binnington yesterday, he probably stops a lot of the shots too. The issue is that when two good teams face each other (like last night or in a SCF), the margins are usually very thin between winning and losing. So while Skinner stops a lot of the same shots, the ones he wouldn’t stop are the difference between winning and losing.

Which ones wouldn’t he stop? A good portion of the chances where he has to be athletic and move laterally very quickly. In OT I don’t think he makes the first save on Matthews and if he somehow does I don’t think he makes the second save on Tkachuk. There’s a chance he doesn’t stop the 2 on 1 in the third period too. Canada needed ALL those saves to win because the margin was so thin.

So while you can say both Binnington and Skinner did their jobs in these big games, it’s clear one goalie had a bigger impact. And it just shows that even great teams need great goaltending sometimes to win it all. Saying the rest of the team should be strong enough to completely mask any goaltending weaknesses is unrealistic.

Skinner has always been extremely average...and you think we were gonna win the goaltending battle against Bobrovsky, then you're wrong
Florida always had the edge in net

when I didn't expect to happen, was not having the edge in scoring

 

[TB12]

Connor went "legend" because Canada found a second goal after going down 2-1 in the second period
same logic


Connor went legend when it was 2-2... Canada, down 2-1, got the second goal the Oilers couldn't get after going down 2-1 spot the difference?


he was f***ing brutal in the first 3 periods....dude admitted it afterwards FFS
why is he above criticism?

Connor bad Skinner good. Hurr durr.

Hope your knuckles don't hurt when they drag on the floor, my dude. Embarrassing takes. You've wasted enough of my time. You keep supporting your son and I'll support the best player we're likely to ever see in an Oilers jersey in the rest of our lifetimes.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

they scored 1 goal... ONE GOAL...this team isn't built for tight 2-1 games...this isn't the 1995 NJ Devils with an elite defense and Brodeur in net...this is a high-octane offense that's EXPECTED to score more than 1 goal in games
those are facts, I'm sorry that hurts your feelings...or maybe you just don't realize how this team is built


Bob is getting paid 10 million to stand on his head...he's an elite goalie

I mean exactly he’s an elite goalie. He was being elite that night and the Oilers couldn’t afford a weak goal against. I’m not saying it’s all on Skinner. Forwards needed to get one but to suggest Skinner doesn’t deserve blame at all is lazy.

Comparing that game to Binningtons game is even more ridiculous. He played against one of the best teams ever assembled and made more big saves in OT than skinner did all series.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Connor bad Skinner good. Hurr durr.

Hope your knuckles don't hurt when they drag on the floor, my dude. Embarrassing takes. You've wasted enough of my time. You keep supporting your son and I'll support the best player we're likely to ever see in an Oilers jersey in the rest of our lifetimes.

did I say Skinner was good? FFS learn to read
I guess my logic of "this team isn't built for 2-1 games" seems to be lost on you