Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Savoie Gets an Audition With the Trade Deadline Looming

[foshizzle]

That would be something else if they up and dealt him on the 1st.

I said it earlier in the thread- if he doesn’t play ball they will move him.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

That would be something else if they up and dealt him on the 1st.

I mean he's either out until playoffs or he gets traded, but Oilers are using that cap space. I know that is true 100%

So I guess that is on Evander Kane.

 

[CROTT]

There is no such thing as the complete picture stat but there is a big difference between +/- and something like QS%. The latter is far less dependent on the team or the players that a guy plays with.

So the last two games with countless defensive break downs and give ways is the goalies fault he didn't have a quality start? Or that the team has had games and periods like that all seasons where they don't show up? And that the Hawks cup era team was more consistant, structured, and disciplined was not a benefit of Crawford?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

So the last two games with countless defensive break downs and give ways is the goalies fault? And that the Hawks cup era team was more consistant, structured, and disciplined was not a benefit of Crawford?

Those two games took me back.

To an era I'd rather not think about. Holy shit they were bad. Like San Jose Sharks bad.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Stan Bowman in a recent interview said he's not trading for a goalie.

Seravalli and Gregor both on said on the DFO rundown podcast the Oilers aren't trading for a goalie
T-minus 10 until meltdown...

 

[Fourier]

So the last two games with countless defensive break downs and give ways is the goalies fault he didn't have a quality start? Or that the team has had games and periods like that all seasons where they don't show up? And that the Hawks cup era team was more consistant, structured, and disciplined was not a benefit of Crawford?

If you want to look at a single game that is a very different thing than looking at a career or over a full season.

No stat is perfect but as a first order measure of consistency this one for me has a lot of potential value.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Seravalli and Gregor both on said on the DFO rundown podcast the Oilers aren't trading for a goalie
T-minus 10 until meltdown...

Good thing Gregor is always wrong

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Good thing Gregor is always wrong

The Lucic tweet with such certainty there was no interest in him then he was dealt 24 hours later will live in infamy.

 

[CROTT]

If you want to look at a single game that is a very different thing than looking at a career or over a full season.

No stat is perfect but as a first order measure of consistency this one for me has a lot of potential value.

Agreed, though the team this season has given up a lot of odd man rushes and break aways to go with questionable net front coverage. Teams have adjusted to Hyman lurking back door and the Oilers PP, but the Oilers have failed to address the teams poor starting of games and defensive gaffs.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Good thing Gregor is always wrong

hahaha true

not many "insiders" have been saying the Oilers are pursuing one, which will be concerning to some

 

[CycloneSweep]

LT basically blaming McDavid instead of the goalies. Wow. Edmonton media really is brain dead… wow.

The media is in love with Skinner cause he’s local. That’s it.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Reading back a few pages, I'll agree with LT to some extent that McDavid needs to pick it up or get some rest, it's never a popular opinion to take shots at the franchise player and best hockey player in the world especially right after scoring the "golden goal", but the facts remain he is a -11 in his last 4 games and that isn't all on goaltending. Also for those saying well if it isn't just on goaltending then it must be Bouchard's fault, he was -4 over that same 4 game sample size.

5v5 numbers 2024/25:
Also McDavid's GA/60 with Bouchard is 2.2
Bouchard's GA/60 without McDavid is 2.32
McDavid's GA/60 without Bouchard is 6.09 ***downright terrible***

 

[CycloneSweep]

Listening to the radio talking about Skinner “he is literally everything you want, I’m rooting for him”

We WANT him to succeed. We also want to win a cup and Skinner is simply not good enough. No one is cheering for Skinner to fail. We want him to not play like shit. So either the team finally fires their goalie coach or finds a better goalie. And yet, the media thinks we are dumb for disliking both.

Our media is awful top to bottom. They know hockey history but that is it.

 

[Canovin]

Reading back a few pages, I'll agree with LT to some extent that McDavid needs to pick it up or get some rest, it's never a popular opinion to take shots at the franchise player and best hockey player in the world especially right after scoring the "golden goal", but the facts remain he is a -11 in his last 4 games and that isn't all on goaltending. Also for those saying well if it isn't just on goaltending then it must be Bouchard's fault, he was -4 over that same 4 game sample size.

5v5 numbers 2024/25:
Also McDavid's GA/60 with Bouchard is 2.2
Bouchard's GA/60 without McDavid is 2.32
McDavid's GA/60 without Bouchard is 6.09 ***downright terrible***

McDavid without Bouchard = 4 Nation Gold

 

[fuswald]

I sure wish we could have consistent lines so they can gel. Every dang game the lines are changed up and not by a little.
Can't the coach figure out the best combos?

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

With respect to the trade deadline I think the priority should be on Defense and Goaltending and that's where I want to spend the majority of assets. I think us playing a possession game is very important to us winning and going deep in the playoffs and I'm not sensing that McDavid, Bouch, and Hyman will have the same level of heroics this season, so IMO the easiest way to up possession is to improve the D.

That said it's real hard finding the perfect fit for Nurse, my gut is saying Pulock could be an ideal fit if we re-awaken the more dynamic part of his game, but that's certainly a gamble and while I don't foresee him stinking up the joint, his contract is rather long so it could break bad or good. My other ideal fit is Weegar, but I don't see CGY helping us out. Striking out ideal ones I'd probably go cheap and pick-up Maatta and just have a generally solid deep d-core, with pieces we can move around.

With respect to G I don't know, but I do think Talbot is the best value pick-up. While I don't foresee him dominating, I think he'll provide steady goaltending and IMO he's better than Niemi, Vernon, or Osgood who all won Cups.

I don't see us committing our big trade chips to forwards, but if we do I think McCann is an ideal linemate for McDavid.

For Draisaitl I think his ideal linemate is Rantanen, but I'm sure the team willing to pony up will have an extension in mind and I don't think we can pay what he wants, also CAR is in win now mode, so I'm thinking they'd be asking for Hyman as part of the trade.

 

[Canovin]

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but seravalli said bowman told him no in regards to trading for a goalie l o l o l o l

Both Niemi and Crawford are better than Stuart

 

[CupofOil]

this place will melt down when the Oilers don't get a goalie lol

I'm here for it

I'm almost certain that we won't see a significant goalie trade and it's going to be mayhem around here. It'll be entertaining if nothing else.

It's funny seeing folks trying to will Gibson to Edmonton into existence, basically ignoring what every insider is saying, connecting the dots between the Husso acquisition and Gibson having to be moved etc.
It's going to be quite a scene around here the late afternoon of March 7th when no goalie of note is acquired.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I'm almost certain that we won't see a significant goalie trade and it's going to be mayhem around here. It'll be entertaining if nothing else.

It's funny seeing folks trying to will Gibson to Edmonton into existence, basically ignoring what every insider is saying, connecting the dots between the Husso acquisition and Gibson having to be moved etc.
It's going to be quite a scene around here the late afternoon of March 7th when no goalie of note is acquired.

There's also no real incentive for the Ducks to move him. They're near the cap floor and we're not exactly drowning in assets. People saying "Just trade them Skinner", what would that do for Anaheim, exactly?

 

[CycloneSweep]

With respect to the trade deadline I think the priority should be on Defense and Goaltending and that's where I want to spend the majority of assets. I think us playing a possession game is very important to us winning and going deep in the playoffs and I'm not sensing that McDavid, Bouch, and Hyman will have the same level of heroics this season, so IMO the easiest way to up possession is to improve the D.

That said it's real hard finding the perfect fit for Nurse, my gut is saying Pulock could be an ideal fit if we re-awaken the more dynamic part of his game, but that's certainly a gamble and while I don't foresee him stinking up the joint, his contract is rather long so it could break bad or good. My other ideal fit is Weegar, but I don't see CGY helping us out. Striking out ideal ones I'd probably go cheap and pick-up Maatta and just have a generally solid deep d-core, with pieces we can move around.

With respect to G I don't know, but I do think Talbot is the best value pick-up. While I don't foresee him dominating, I think he'll provide steady goaltending and IMO he's better than Niemi, Vernon, or Osgood who all won Cups.

I don't see us committing our big trade chips to forwards, but if we do I think McCann is an ideal linemate for McDavid.

For Draisaitl I think his ideal linemate is Rantanen, but I'm sure the team willing to pony up will have an extension in mind and I don't think we can pay what he wants, also CAR is in win now mode, so I'm thinking they'd be asking for Hyman as part of the trade.

You are going to get a middle 6 forward and a 4th line face puncher and you are going to like it.

 

[CupofOil]

The other major problem the Oilers have is guys like Hyman and Ekholm are getting to the age where a decline in their play is natural.

They don't have all the time in the world just because McDavid is 27. Who in the pipeline is replacing Ekholm and Hyman? Nobody.

It's now or never.

I think the window might have closed already. Just about everybody on the roster is at the back side of their prime or past it so it's only going downhill or at least steady state for most guys. The last 2 years were their opportunity IMO. Doesn't mean they can't win it because McDavid and Draisaitl are who they are but I think the odds significantly lessened the moment they lost Game 7 last year and the year before when the west was weaker, they blew it by not beating Vegas in a winnable series. Those 2 years were their best shots IMO.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I think the window might have closed already. Just about everybody on the roster is at the back side of their prime or past it so it's only going downhill or at least steady state for most guys. The last 2 years were their opportunity IMO. Doesn't mean they can't win it because McDavid and Draisaitl are who they are but I think the odds significantly lessened the moment they lost Game 7 last year and the year before when the west was weaker, they blew it by not beating Vegas in a winnable series. Those 2 years were their best shots IMO.

Virtually the entire roster sans Leon has taken a step back this season. Bouchard looks nothing like the player he was in the playoffs last year and Ekholm, while still solid, is starting to show cracks.

And of course the bottom six doesn't piss a drop for the 11th year in a row it feels like.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Both Niemi and Crawford are better than Stuart

I mean probably, Niemi was pretty mid though. They feel closer.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I'm almost certain that we won't see a significant goalie trade and it's going to be mayhem around here. It'll be entertaining if nothing else.

It's funny seeing folks trying to will Gibson to Edmonton into existence, basically ignoring what every insider is saying, connecting the dots between the Husso acquisition and Gibson having to be moved etc.
It's going to be quite a scene around here the late afternoon of March 7th when no goalie of note is acquired.

We are willing in into existence because it’s absolutely insane to not address this garbage goaltending.

It will be mayhem here if we don’t and rightly so. I would say I can’t wait to see the skinner fan faces when his garbage tending continues into the playoffs but I don’t. It’s going to be brutal.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I'm almost certain that we won't see a significant goalie trade and it's going to be mayhem around here. It'll be entertaining if nothing else.

It's funny seeing folks trying to will Gibson to Edmonton into existence, basically ignoring what every insider is saying, connecting the dots between the Husso acquisition and Gibson having to be moved etc.
It's going to be quite a scene around here the late afternoon of March 7th when no goalie of note is acquired.

I like Gibson, he's a fine goalie...but he's expensive with the assets needed to acquire him doesn't guarantee anything...he may or may not choke during crunch time

I'm more pissed off at the fact the Oilers failed to match Broberg/Holloway and didn't LTIR Kane because they wanted to accrue cap space for a big deal at the TDL...now we are hearing it'll only be a smaller piece