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[Oilhawks]

Let Beryozkin sign here FFS or Matt Davis (goalie)

No offense to Davis, but I'd really like to see the Oilers look at acquiring a goaltender from an actual goalie factory country, and not the barren wasteland that is modern Canadian goaltending.

They haven't really bothered to draft or sign any highly touted Euro goalies (since Koskinen from the KHL), for example, and haven't had a lot of luck with Canadian goalies aside from a couple of decent years from Talbot and the corpse of Mike Smith (and both of those players were known quantities).

 

[aspin3]

Brown should thank his lucky stars the Oilers are giving him an opportunity to draw a regular shift and paycheck in the NHL. If he wants anything north of a minimal raise, then bye-bye.

They cannot bring Brown back. He brings nothing to the team except pk. If this team cannot do better than Brown next year then they are in a world of hurt

 

[MessierThanThou]

There must have been a bidding war. 1.2M is not cheap for an overseas recruit.

They also won a supposed bidding war for Klingberg and we all know what a waste of money that was. This guy will probably end up on waivers before Christmas.

The ability of our management group to gauge talent is pretty low, as we can see with Holloway and McLeod having breakout seasons while Henrique and Arvidsson are officially washed up. Not to mention having arguably the worst goaltending in the league when you factor in how vastly superior we are defensively than the only two teams with worse goaltending metrics.

 

[McShogun99]

They cannot bring Brown back. He brings nothing to the team except pk. If this team cannot do better than Brown next year then they are in a world of hurt

I don’t want any of our UFA’s back next year. We need to make room for some new and young players in the lineup. I’d even try to convince Henrique and Arvidsson to waive their NMC’s if they don’t contribute during these playoffs.

 

[MessierThanThou]

I don’t want any of our UFA’s back next year. We need to make room for some new and young players in the lineup. I’d even try to convince Henrique and Arvidsson to waive their NMC’s if they don’t contribute during these playoffs.

I'd like to see Skinner stay on McDavid's flank. But Henrique, Arvidsson, Brown, and Janmark, unless they somehow only perform in the playoffs, can f*** right off.

 

[Stoneman89]

I never said to get rid of Pickard. I said he isn't the solution.

I'm starting to lose track of what your point is anymore.

Pickard is the solution for his position- backup goalie. We're not asking him or expecting him to be anything else. Not even sure why his name even comes up when talking about our starting goalie issue. McDavid isn't the solution for this problem either. I don't know where you're going with this.

Skinner has been the problem for his position - starting goalie.

 

[McDrai]

what a guess!

Thank you sir!

 

[Spawn]

I'm starting to lose track of what your point is anymore.

Pickard is the solution for his position- backup goalie. We're not asking him or expecting him to be anything else. Not even sure why his name even comes up when talking about our starting goalie issue. McDavid isn't the solution for this problem either. I don't know where you're going with this.

Skinner has been the problem for his position - starting goalie.

Skinner has been by far the bigger problem. But it’s not like Pickard .899 sv% is any good. He’s at best a mediocre backup goalie. If you have Helleybuck or Vasilevsky in net sure, no need to try and upgrade. But any other scenario in net you should be trying to have better than that.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Maybe he becomes a Michael Handzus type player for us. I do like Bowman's signings out of Europe that he did for Chicago

 

[McTonyBrar]

Knew it lol

 

[Mr Positive]

They cannot bring Brown back. He brings nothing to the team except pk. If this team cannot do better than Brown next year then they are in a world of hurt

He gets a leeway because he was great in the playoffs. He might be great again.

 

[Spawn]

He gets a leeway because he was great in the playoffs. He might be great again.

It's amazing how much leeway a player gets for being "great" in the playoffs a year ago. "Great" is also a very generous description of Brown's contributions. He was a key part of a historic PK that had absolutely everyone going. Otherwise he was as useless as he's always been here.

 

[Fourier]

Skinner has been by far the bigger problem. But it’s not like Pickard .899 sv% is any good. He’s at best a mediocre backup goalie. If you have Helleybuck or Vasilevsky in net sure, no need to try and upgrade. But any other scenario in net you should be trying to have better than that.

Pickard's .899 sv% is a bit skewed by a small number of very bad games vs Chicago, NJD, Anaheim and Winnipeg. I have said previously that I like the QS% stat as a measure of consistency. In that case Pickard has been very good with better than league average sv% in roughly 70% of his games this year and teh Oilers won all but one of those games. The only loss was the 3-0 shutout vs Montreal on November 18th .

 

[M Ace]

I bet Matthew Davis from Denver Pioneers has alot of potential.

Come on Bowman. Sign him!

What do you think?

 

[McDNicks17]

I bet Matthew Davis from Denver Pioneers has alot of potential.

Come on Bowman. Sign him!

What do you think?


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It's always tough to tell with NCAA goalies.

Denver is pretty stacked and they play in a fairly weak conference. They don't play any of the big schools in Minnesota, Michigan, Boston, etc.

It wouldn't hurt signing him though. Run a Davis/Brochu tandem in Bako next year and then maybe Jonsson joins a year later(sounds like he might be signing in the SHL for next year).

 

[Canovin]

It's always tough to tell with NCAA goalies.

Denver is pretty stacked and they play in a fairly weak conference. They don't play any of the big schools in Minnesota, Michigan, Boston, etc.

It wouldn't hurt signing him though. Run a Davis/Brochu tandem in Bako next year and then maybe Jonsson joins a year later(sounds like he might be signing in the SHL for next year).

Calgary born tandem(Davis and Ungar) for the ECHL. Brochu and Delia/Rodrigue at the AHL.

 

[Mr Positive]

It's amazing how much leeway a player gets for being "great" in the playoffs a year ago. "Great" is also a very generous description of Brown's contributions. He was a key part of a historic PK that had absolutely everyone going. Otherwise he was as useless as he's always been here.

He wasn't just great on the PK. Everyone wanted to bring back that third line because they were killing it 5 on 5, in every playoff round

 

[CupofOil]

It's amazing how much leeway a player gets for being "great" in the playoffs a year ago. "Great" is also a very generous description of Brown's contributions. He was a key part of a historic PK that had absolutely everyone going. Otherwise he was as useless as he's always been here.

This just isn't true at all.
The first two playoff rounds he was pretty quiet but he and that 3rd line were quite good in the last two playoff series. I don't know how anybody can say otherwise.

I honestly don't care about the regular season much with these vets. If they bring it in the playoffs like they did last playoffs they'll be well worth the money and if the healthy guys return, although I'm still really skeptical of Kane being anything close to what he used to be, but if they all return at full health then the 3rd line from last year becomes the 4th line. That would be a good problem to have.

 

[K1984]

Pickard's .899 sv% is a bit skewed by a small number of very bad games vs Chicago, NJD, Anaheim and Winnipeg. I have said previously that I like the QS% stat as a measure of consistency. In that case Pickard has been very good with better than league average sv% in roughly 70% of his games this year and teh Oilers won all but one of those games. The only loss was the 3-0 shutout vs Montreal on November 18th .

Another factor is of those very bad games, the only one where the team in front of him was playing anywhere close to the level required to win was the Devil game. The others were no shows or total stinkers, with that Ducks game in particular being possibly the worst of the year.

Was he good in those games? No, but he doesn't do the Skinner where he can be good enough for 45 mins with the team playing well in front of him only to allow an ugly one out of nowhere. Those games are the real killers. You kind of know what you're gonna get from Pickard early each night, good or bad.

 

[Stoneman89]

Skinner has been by far the bigger problem. But it’s not like Pickard .899 sv% is any good. He’s at best a mediocre backup goalie. If you have Helleybuck or Vasilevsky in net sure, no need to try and upgrade. But any other scenario in net you should be trying to have better than that.

So upgrade Skinner. There are only 4 backups that have a better save % than Pickard, so he's in the top 5 of the league. Not sure how that's a problem.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

It's amazing how much leeway a player gets for being "great" in the playoffs a year ago. "Great" is also a very generous description of Brown's contributions. He was a key part of a historic PK that had absolutely everyone going. Otherwise he was as useless as he's always been here.

Winning the special teams battle in hockey usually means you win the hockey game. The PK was like you said historic. Brown was a main driver on that PK… so no it’s not generous to call his contributions great.

 

[MessierII]

Winning the special teams battle in hockey usually means you win the hockey game. The PK was like you said historic. Brown was a main driver on that PK… so no it’s not generous to call his contributions great.

Those shorthanded goals he was in on were massive

 

[samiam]

They cannot bring Brown back. He brings nothing to the team except pk. If this team cannot do better than Brown next year then they are in a world of hurt

I have no problem bringing Brown back at under 1M.
He's a perfect for the 4th line (and 4th line only), he's good on the PK.
The contract can be completely buried in the minors if need be.
It would be hard to develop a young kid properly on the 4th line.
Tell me how we can do better in this scenario. I honestly don't see much downside.

 

[Spawn]

I have no problem bringing Brown back at under 1M.
He's a perfect for the 4th line (and 4th line only), he's good on the PK.
The contract can be completely buried in the minors if need be.
It would be hard to develop a young kid properly on the 4th line.
Tell me how we can do better in this scenario. I honestly don't see much downside.

There’s no room in the NHL for a guy who’s only use is as a PKer. It’s not that hard to find players to kill penalties who can also contribute elsewhere. Especially when you consider our PK has been ass this season.

 

[bellagiobob]