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[Behind Enemy Lines]

I’ll guess David Tomasek.

Good guess because he's the same age as Derek Ryan was as an age 29 rookie in the NHL.

 

[belair]

I’d probably say no just based on Stauff saying higher profile.

Filip Zadina?

 

[McShogun99]

Filip Zadina?

If Holland wouldn't even give him a chance then Bowman probably won't either.

 

[belair]

If Holland wouldn't even give him a chance then Bowman probably won't either.

We're talking about European UFAs. They're all guys that NHL GMs have passed over. Zadina certainly falls into that higher profile category.

But I listened to the podcast. Sounds more like a depth forward.

 

[Canovin]

Maybe it's Kravstov.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

 

[McTonyBrar]

Damien Carfagna. A smart signing by our GM.

 

[Slats432]

If this was posted I missed it. Jarviente going back to Finland.

MSN

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Maybe it's Kravstov.

How is he similar to Ryan though?

 

[McTonyBrar]

Excellent, you're better than AI.

"I'll give you a hint, Derek Ryan, but he's not an ex-Golden Bear, but in terms of a guy who excelled as a top player in a top European league"

"Bigger than Derek Ryan & Gaetan Haas, average to above average sized guy."

"A positional need that Edmonton has"

"Is he Canadian? No"

Vitali Kravtsov

 

[Canovin]

Damien Carfagna. A smart signing by our GM.

Oilers Quinn Hughes?

 

[Canovin]

How is he similar to Ryan though?

Late bloomer

 

[Slats432]

I think every NCAA Free agent should look at the Oilers. With such little prospect depth comes more opportunity.

 

[McShogun99]

If this was posted I missed it. Jarviente going back to Finland.

MSN

He has NHL potential. He should give it one more year and hope to be injury free.

 

[Slats432]

He has NHL potential. He should give it one more year and hope to be injury free.

The point is he is leaving the organization.

 

[North]

The point is he is leaving the organization.

Technically he’s an RFA so they can qualify him and keep his rights.

 

[FlameChampion]

I think every NCAA Free agent should look at the Oilers. With such little prospect depth comes more opportunity.

Lots of opportunities at the AHL level. But at the NHL level we don’t have a lot of patience for the majority of younger players. We will see if it changes under Bowman over the next couple years.

 

[Slats432]

Lots of opportunities at the AHL level. But at the NHL level we don’t have a lot of patience for the majority of younger players. We will see if it changes under Bowman over the next couple years.

I agree with that, but if you are good, then instead of guys like Klingberg, Dermott, Stetcher you might get a shot.

 

[North]

Lots of opportunities at the AHL level. But at the NHL level we don’t have a lot of patience for the majority of younger players. We will see if it changes under Bowman over the next couple years.

Have we not been playing Emberson (although he has been struggling lately) on the bottom pairing for the majority of the season?

Did we not allow Bouchard to prove he could cover Barrie’s offense before trading Barrie?

Did we not give Yamamoto opportunities until he no longer could physically keep up?

We have given young guys opportunities. Even young guys who are struggling but if guys can’t grab the job and run with it, that’s on them.

 

[alphahelix]

All the more reason to move him at the draft. If he gets traded then we actually get back a good asset and Holloway doesn’t get convinced by Broberg’s agent to sign an offer sheet or the Bkues don’t even bother doing it since it’s more then likely Edmonton matches at 2.4.

At the draft? Hell, St. Louis would have moved Buchnevich for him and retained. Maybe we win the cup. Instead we hold him til he turns to dirt and leaves for nothing.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Lots of opportunities at the AHL level. But at the NHL level we don’t have a lot of patience for the majority of younger players. We will see if it changes under Bowman over the next couple years.

Maybe this year, but the roster opens up quite significantly in 2026-27.

 

[CupofOil]

You make a lot of good points.

Broberg didn’t want to be here. Walman is probably a good replacement for him.

They will need to find a way to replace Holloway. I think the team really needs to seriously consider a bit of a retool especially with their forwards group and goaltending in the off. I think they really need to make some difficult decisions. (And I am talking about players like RNH, Hyman, Nurse etc).

More than that I think really needs to figure out some philosophical decisions about how they run this team. Because a lot of what their doing isn’t really working. Drafting and development continues to be a problem. This team is so apprehensive towards some young and inexperienced players. A lot of these guys can’t even get a regular shifts in a single game let alone for any period of time.

We have seen guys like Holloway, Broberg, Lavoie, Kemp etc just get yoyo’d around. Kesselring couldn’t get a shift. And people can blame Holland but not sure its all on him.

The forwards and the goaltending have been terrible this year and yet guys like Savoie, Philp, Rodrigue etc can’t get much of an opportunity. Sure Savoie is young. But theres just no patience with these guys. Where does it originate from? Management? Coaching? Leadership group?

Same old problems regardless of GM, coach etc.

Honestly, I think it has more to do with the player leadership group than the coaches.
I have a feeling that McDavid, Draisaitl and Nurse prefer vets in this win now window to surround them as opposed to young guys learning on the job.
Not to give the coaches a free pass but it's been an ongoing theme throughout the last decade, for the most part, of young guys not getting a fair shake and vets getting precedent even when they're underperforming.

To reiterate, this doesn't excuse management for being so incredibly awful at asset management and scouting over the last decade and coaches for playing their favorites but I do think there's something to McDavid and Draisaitl having preferences and for others to get less opportunity as a result, there's only been brief times when this felt like a real TEAM and there's been very short leashes for young players that make a few mistakes. There's just too big of a sample size of just about everybody playing worse here and playing better elsewhere through several different management/coaching regimes to ignore.

 

[belair]

Vitali Kravtsov

Kravtsov is Canucks property.

I think Tomasek is a good guess. So is Evan Barratt. I'm not sure I see either as being 'close to NHL ready' though.

 

[belair]

At the draft? Hell, St. Louis would have moved Buchnevich for him and retained. Maybe we win the cup. Instead we hold him til he turns to dirt and leaves for nothing.

At the draft the Blues were already very certain the Oilers were in a predicament. Broberg had already spoken out about his trade request and it was likely that both he and Holloway had reasoning to ask for more money on second contracts. There was never going to be an alternative where we came out favorably. They just didn't have the leverage.

 

[Canovin]

At the draft the Blues were already very certain the Oilers were in a predicament. Broberg had already spoken out about his trade request and it was likely that both he and Holloway had reasoning to ask for more money on second contracts. There was never going to be an alternative where we came out favorably. They just didn't have the leverage.

At last year deadline Blues wanted Holloway and Broberg for Buchnevich. I honestly think the Oilers win the cup with Buch last year.