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[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Missing the playoffs almost feels like a blessing in disguise. I want every member of the Oilers management fired in the most emphatic way possible.

Like Katz or someone coming out and apologizing for the ineptitude of all of the clowns he's hired and then proceeding to shxx on thier performance. Maybe throw a few slurs in there too.

The way Vancouver and Calgary are stumbling it won’t happen unless we completely fall on our faces which given the performance of the team since 4N is not outside the realm of possibility.

Missing the playoffs would probably be met with the “we were injured and dealing with various illnesses” excuse to see the idiots in charge double down and sign every 37+ year old out there.

 

[The Panther]

It would be a dream to see the Oilers win the Stanley Cup just one more time before I die.

On the other hand, if they do win, we'll have to suffer Kevin Lowe taking all the credit for it.

 

[MessierII]

He had his uses for PK/physicality but you just cannot bring him back at 2 million and there's a reason why he's been moved around so much this year. You can't blame him for taking that deal too. He had to. He's a 7th round pick overager who was likely taking his only chance at a paycheck above league minimum.

No I agree 100% he’s not a 2 million dollar player he’s a 800k-1 million player. I just watch that Seattle game and not exaggerating I feel like 4 of those goals don’t go in with him on the ice. It’s easy street around our net right now for the opposition.

It’s not just luck our goalies had a .932 save % 5 on 5 in his 114 games here.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

No I agree 100% he’s not a 2 million dollar player he’s a 800k-1 million player. I just watch that Seattle game and not exaggerating I feel like 4 of those goals don’t go in with him on the ice. It’s easy street around our net right now for the opposition.

It’s not just luck our goalies had a .932 save % 5 on 5 in his 114 games here.

Yeah the only players we have with even remote semblence of a net front game are Ekholm/Nurse and both have too many other responsibilities to do that role full time. The 0.932 is probably luck related though since he's down to 0.896 this year.

 

[CycloneSweep]

The team misses Vinny Desharnais. Vinny kind of sucks and probably ain’t an every day playoff guy but the skill set he brings is such a badly needed niche here and that’s why he worked. He complimented Kulak perfectly and shut things down around our net. Emberson, Stecher, Klingberg, not one of these guys has been nearly as effective.

We shouldn’t have Desharnais back, but we need a legit NHL defender with his strengths.

 

[MessierII]

Yeah the only players we have with even remote semblence of a net front game are Ekholm/Nurse and both have too many other responsibilities to do that role full time. The 0.932 is probably luck related though since he's down to 0.896 this year.

It’s a deployment thing. He’s back up to .918 with sharks since being traded. He worked here because he filled a niche, complimented Kulak perfectly and our coaches knew how to use him. That pairing took on a lot of top 6 matchups with D zone starts and it took a lot of pressure off the Ekholm Bouchard pair who low and behold look worse this year.

 

[CycloneSweep]

It’s a deployment thing. He’s back up to .918 with sharks since being traded. He worked here because he filled a niche, complimented Kulak perfectly and our coaches knew how to use him. That pairing took on a lot of top 6 matchups with D zone starts and it took a lot of pressure off the Ekholm Bouchard pair who lo and behold look worse this year.

The issue is he couldn’t handle the playoffs. Games got to fast for him.

 

[MessierII]

The issue is he couldn’t handle the playoffs. Games got to fast for him.

Yeah and that’s why I said he’s probably not an every day playoff guy but he was the perfect 6-7 for this roster. They also kind of screwed him moving him up with nurse because nurse-Ceci were bleeding goals at a historical rate. Him and Kulak the first round and a bit were doing great.

 

[Jumptheshark]

If I was owner. Bowman would have been fired the day after he decided not to match Holloway.

Inexplicable stupitidy

We could not have matched Broberg. Yes on Hallaway but not Broberg.

People who say we could have signed Broberg then create math moving players to the farm or trading players an unnamed team freeing up money. But we would have had to replace said players and what this team x that was going to take camp dumps from us?

Jackson should have traded Broberg at the draft. Offer sheet crap is on Jackson. We had no money by July 6th.

And please do not say Kane unless you can produce a doctors note or other legit confirmation that the oilers knew Kane would
be gone for the regular season when the offer sheets happened.

And do not get me started on the oilers trading and claiming on waivers so many injured players this year

And when the oilers did realise Kane was gone for the season? They did more or less Jack shit with that money

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Katz must be losing this mind behind the scenes. Between Bowman and Jackson, I bet he is paying them 10 million usd a year for this lol. They couldn't even figure out they needed goaltending at the deadline . Unbelievable.

Somehow I don’t have sympathy for this guy when he’s the one who kept hitting these fools to begin with. Maybe he’ll learn that he’s been a terrible owner since day one.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I do have a couple of quick questions.

Context. I am splitting time between Australia and Philipeans for next 2 months working so I am actual too busy to keep track of the crap that goes on( my reduced posting should make a few of you happy)

Q1.. who the Germans Bagdad Bob was talking about. One name I saw posted confused me because it had been reported he had signed an extension.
Q2. Kapanen is heading to Finland or a Swiss league next season. Has this been discussed much
Q3. If Federic does not play a game for the oilers can the trade be reworked. While the Oilers knew he was injured. He was supose to be back before the playoffs but he may not be ready until after they start. The Bruins board is convinced he will be a blur 3 minutes after he becomes a UFA. Why haven't the oilers signed him
Q4. Alex Regula who we claimed off waivers from Boston in december is done for this season officially now. I am confused why media guys suggest he is a slam dunk to make the NHL when he could not crack the Bruins or blackhawks rosters. I realise he is 6 foot 4 but that is all people and media talk about when it comes to his talent. His injuries over the past 5 years are mind boggling. He can not stay healthy and I think that should be massive concern. I realise he was a waivers claim and cost the nothing but it annoys me to get injured players ( yes I promised not to rant about the injured players but by posting it I annoyed myself)

For me there are a lot of problems with this organization beyond that if goaltending.

We hired chia pet after he screwed up in Boston. We hired Holland after he ran the wings into the ground and now we have Bowman and based purely on his actions..he has no idea what the f*** he is doing. And besides being McDaviids agent and a former nhler.. what experience does Jackson have being the top guy running an nhl team?

Not sure who is higher ing these guys... but he needs to go

 

[Jumptheshark]

I had an interesting discussion with some work colleagues. Would the Oilers have the balls to do what St Louis did when Bennington was called up and given a chance to run with it? I said absolutely not because Oilers value over the hill aging veterans over young players. Having said that- I’d love to see Oilers start Rodrigue next game- but they won’t. Have to play Pickard- who won’t likely be here next year

Binnington was highly thought of prior being called up. Oliver O? Not so much. Most scouting reports have him as a career AHL goalie.

Although, if he plays and shits the bed, we can claim he was drafted because his father worked as a goalie coach for the oilers at the time and had worked for the team for about 10 years.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

Katz must be losing this mind behind the scenes. Between Bowman and Jackson, I bet he is paying them 10 million usd a year for this lol. They couldn't even figure out they needed goaltending at the deadline . Unbelievable.

A council of insane fans combined with an analytics team and someone to negotiate trades would probably do better than 90% of teams.

 

[PBandJ]

Katz must be losing this mind behind the scenes. Between Bowman and Jackson, I bet he is paying them 10 million usd a year for this lol. They couldn't even figure out they needed goaltending at the deadline . Unbelievable.

Why would he be losing his mind? He's gotten everything he wanted, and the city is about to bend over backwards to give him more money for an event park, likely destroying the local music scene for good.

He's kicked back with a cigar and a glass of red wine.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Why would he be losing his mind? He's gotten everything he wanted, and the city is about to bend over backwards to give him more money for an event park, likely destroying the local music scene for good.

He's kicked back with a cigar and a glass of red wine.

Ya it's about the music for him.

 

[foshizzle]

Binnington was highly thought of prior being called up. Oliver O? Not so much. Most scouting reports have him as a career AHL goalie.

Although, if he plays and shits the bed, we can claim he was drafted because his father worked as a goalie coach for the oilers at the time and had worked for the team for about 10 years.

Incorrect, my friend. Binnington was actually about to quit hockey because it looked like he had no chance of going anywhere. He spent 7 years in the A- called up once for a cup of coffee. In fact, he wasn’t even the goalie the Blues wanted to call up- their AHL starter got hurt.

Rodrigue has had a .912 and .916 save % in the AHL last year and from what I hear- was the best player on that condors team outside of Broberg. Skinner posted similar numbers before he became the Oilers starter. Rodrigue is younger and is better suited for the game the oilers play. I would have liked to see him get a shot

 

[McDNicks17]

Binnington was highly thought of prior being called up. Oliver O? Not so much. Most scouting reports have him as a career AHL goalie.

Although, if he plays and shits the bed, we can claim he was drafted because his father worked as a goalie coach for the oilers at the time and had worked for the team for about 10 years.

Binnington was so highly thought of that the Blues were paying him to play for another organization's AHL team.

 

[foshizzle]

We could not have matched Broberg. Yes on Hallaway but not Broberg.

People who say we could have signed Broberg then create math moving players to the farm or trading players an unnamed team freeing up money. But we would have had to replace said players and what this team x that was going to take camp dumps from us?

Jackson should have traded Broberg at the draft. Offer sheet crap is on Jackson. We had no money by July 6th.

And please do not say Kane unless you can produce a doctors note or other legit confirmation that the oilers knew Kane would
be gone for the regular season when the offer sheets happened.

And do not get me started on the oilers trading and claiming on waivers so many injured players this year

And when the oilers did realise Kane was gone for the season? They did more or less Jack shit with that money

Oilers could have easily signed Broberg. According to Friedman, the ask from Broberg’s camp was 1.8M. Oilers felt that was too much and wouldn’t budge off of 1.2. I think Holloway ask was 1.5M and the Oilers would t budge off of 1M. The oilers could have easily afforded both.

They should have also moved away from Kulak. I love the player- but at some point you have to make way for younger players. Broberg showed, in spurts, he can handle big pressure situations and can play in the playoffs. You always hear Bob Stauffer when he is taking to Oilers GMs (Holland before and now Bowman) about having young players come in on cheap contracts, but what does this organization love to do- bring in veteran players at overpriced deals.

I’ve said it before- the Oilers have been gifted 2 of the pieces hardest to get. Actually, I’ll say impossible to get. 2 generational players. All they had to do was build an average team around them. They couldn’t. We all saw what they look like without them…it’s shocking actually

 

[94 Oil Drops]

It would be a dream to see the Oilers win the Stanley Cup just one more time before I die.

I still haven't seen the Oilers win The Stanley Cup even once. I turned 30 in July. I'm not even convinced I'll see them lift it before I die. lol

 

[Fourier]

I still haven't seen the Oilers win The Stanley Cup even once. I turned 30 in July. I'm not even convinced I'll see them lift it before I die. lol

And reports are that they NHL wants to go to 36 teams. That means that over the course of their life a lot of hockey fans would never see their team win.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

And reports are that they NHL wants to go to 36 teams. That means that over the course of their life a lot of hockey fans would never see their team win.

Greedy owners are a bane on sports.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I still haven't seen the Oilers win The Stanley Cup even once. I turned 30 in July. I'm not even convinced I'll see them lift it before I die. lol

I’m 34 and I didn’t start watching till after they won. I’m confident I won’t see it either. Maybe another few game 7 heartbreaks with our next 2 generational players.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Imagine Pickard starting a series against the Kings now.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Oilers could have easily signed Broberg. According to Friedman, the ask from Broberg’s camp was 1.8M. Oilers felt that was too much and wouldn’t budge off of 1.2. I think Holloway ask was 1.5M and the Oilers would t budge off of 1M. The oilers could have easily afforded both.

They should have also moved away from Kulak. I love the player- but at some point you have to make way for younger players. Broberg showed, in spurts, he can handle big pressure situations and can play in the playoffs. You always hear Bob Stauffer when he is taking to Oilers GMs (Holland before and now Bowman) about having young players come in on cheap contracts, but what does this organization love to do- bring in veteran players at overpriced deals.

I’ve said it before- the Oilers have been gifted 2 of the pieces hardest to get. Actually, I’ll say impossible to get. 2 generational players. All they had to do was build an average team around them. They couldn’t. We all saw what they look like without them…it’s shocking actually

Please post the link where you have BROBERGS AGENT saying they were asking for 1.8. I believe that was it was Hallway. All comments from Brobergs camp was he never reminded hid trade request.

And again I am TALKING.DIRECTLY ABOUT THE OFFER SHEETS NOT THINGS SPECULATED THAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE.

My comment was about the fact we could not match Brobergs offer sheet. And again I said "please do not trading playing X to a mystery team". That is pure speculation or wishful thinking. Oilers f***ed situation up.

 

[The Panther]

Oilers could have easily signed Broberg. According to Friedman, the ask from Broberg’s camp was 1.8M. Oilers felt that was too much and wouldn’t budge off of 1.2. I think Holloway ask was 1.5M and the Oilers would t budge off of 1M.

If this is true, it's just.... I mean, I can't even.

How f***ing stupid can one organization be?

I understand that they (well, Holland and the rest followed him) wanted to build a Cup-contender around veterans. It worked for Holland in Detroit a quarter-century ago, so --- in typical Oilers' fashion --- the entire org bent over to defer to a guy whose team building philosophy was out of date (see also: Chiarelli).

It's' fine to get some key veterans in, as you do need them. But you can't ditch all the young players in the org in the process.

Good Lord, if the NHL expands to 36 teams, and assuming Edmonton becomes an even less desirable destination for free agents, can you imagine how crappy this club could be five years from now? I mean, they might still have McDavid (but who knows?) and Draisaitl, getting old and past their primes (and probably miserable) but what else would there be? Holland gutted the team of draft choices for the foreseeable future. Nuge is going to be in his mid-30s and getting 25 points per season. Nurse will be 35 and getting 9 million. The top defenceman will probably be Emberson or something. Rodrigues in net.