Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: Help Wanted

[Shanahanigans]

Summer of JJ keeps on giving man lmao, this is almost Chia level bad. In terms of the guys with NMC- threaten to waive them like NY did with Trouba. Or does NMC include waivers/AHL as well?

 

[LeonDraisaitl29]

This to me suggests Kane, which would explain why the Oilers are looking to move him even though he is going to be back after the start of the playoffs.

Whyd he sign that contract then

 

[Oilhawks]

Below average yet still better than the previous and next GM. Low bars being set here in Edmonton

Holland actually had them set up decently going into this season. Already had a Cup contending team full of vets but also solid young players with speed and size mixed in and two guys in Holloway and Borberg that could be building blocks and extend a Cup window. Now??? Poof, gone for aging players with declining performance who can't be moved now without attaching assets.
In fairness to JJ and Bowman, contracts like the Nurse and Kane ones not to mention the dead cap of Campbell made the Oilers susceptible to offer sheets but, still.... how do you not match a $2.2m for a bright young player like Holloway who loved it here? Goodness gracious.

Not really in defense of management, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they asked Connor & Leon if they wanted him back and they said no

 

[Soundwave]

Not really in defense of management, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they asked Connor & Leon if they wanted him back and they said no

What kind of management operates like that? Do they take driving directions from their 4 year old on the way to work also? That's their f***ing job, not Connor and Leon's.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Hey it's only one Oiler...lol.

but i was told Skinner was good and it was only the defence. Or so the media said.

 

[Arpeggio]

Basically Jeff Jackson f***ed himself.

Honestly bringing back Kostin now for peanuts would actually make a lot of sense given the handcuffs the front office is in.

He's fast, he hits, he fights, he isn't freaking 34 years old, he has a good shot release, Kane probably has to go out. There's not many options available for cheaper.

You could get a player like Kostin for less than it would cost to get the Sharks to retain on Kostin. I think that ship has sailed, and he's done nothing in the last two seasons to show that he would be an improvement on anything the Oilers currently have. But sure, if it cost them nothing, I'd be in favour of bringing him back.

 

[Soundwave]

You could get a player like Kostin for less than it would cost to get the Sharks to retain on Kostin. I think that ship has sailed, and he's done nothing in the last two seasons to show that he would be an improvement on anything the Oilers currently have. But sure, if it cost them nothing, I'd be in favour of bringing him back.

No you can't. The cost on Kostin will be virtually nothing, retaining $1 mill at a trade deadline for a 3rd team is like maybe a 4th or 5th round pick.

Teams like the Bruins are going to try and bend us over and take a 1st for Trent Frederic, who probably then bolts in the summer to sign back with a US team.

 

[FlameChampion]

This to me suggests Kane, which would explain why the Oilers are looking to move him even though he is going to be back after the start of the playoffs.

I think if they know for certaint he is out, they will just use the LTIR cap space. But they have to trust his camp to do that. We will find out soon if they do.

 

[Jarvi]

Summer of JJ keeps on giving man lmao, this is almost Chia level bad. In terms of the guys with NMC- threaten to waive them like NY did with Trouba. Or does NMC include waivers/AHL as well?

It includes waivers. The only way around it is either by scratching the player til they are pissed off enough to waive their clause, or buyout in the offseason.

 

[soothsayer]

Whyd he sign that contract then

People change, happens all the time. He wasn't happy last year playing on the third line and he made that known.

 

[Shanahanigans]

It includes waivers. The only way around it is either by scratching the player til they are pissed off enough to waive their clause, or buyout in the offseason.

Oh man. Depending on how this season goes, I’m getting a bit more worried about Mcdavid re-signing than I was before. Great management group we have here.

 

[Arpeggio]

No you can't. The cost on Kostin will be virtually nothing, retaining $1 mill at a trade deadline for a 3rd team is like maybe a 4th or 5th round pick.

Teams like the Bruins are going to try and bend us over and take a 1st for Trent Frederic, who probably then bolts in the summer to sign back with a US team.

I think we just disagree on how good Kostin is. I don't think he even gets into the lineup here.

I also wouldn't trade for Frederic, but I have no idea who's available.

 

[Jarvi]

Oh man. Depending on how this season goes, I’m getting a bit more worried about Mcdavid re-signing than I was before. Great management group we have here.

Yup. And there is chatter that someone has demanded a trade. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to hear it's Connor.

 

[Soundwave]

I think we just disagree on how good Kostin is. I don't think he even gets into the lineup here.

I also wouldn't trade for Frederic, but I have no idea who's available.

Trent Frederic tier forwards are what's available especially given that Arvidsson and Henrique and Skinner are likely all stuck here, we're not getting Mikko Rantanen or some fantasy like that.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Basically Jeff Jackson f***ed himself.

Honestly bringing back Kostin now for peanuts would actually make a lot of sense given the handcuffs the front office is in.

He's fast, he hits, he fights, he isn't freaking 34 years old, he has a good shot release, Kane probably has to go out. There's not many options available for cheaper.

San Jose has all their retention slots used so we would be adding 2mill in cap for a 4th liner.

 

[Arpeggio]

Yup. And there is chatter that someone has demanded a trade. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to hear it's Connor.

lol.

If Connor demanded a trade while the team was in first place in the division, despite him having a pedestrian season by his standards, coming off a game 7 finals loss, then he can get leave.

Everyone around here is forgetting that this season was going very well until the last small stretch, and a huge reason that the team is in that stretch is because McDavid himself is slumping. Things are not nearly as bad as they seem.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

Yup. And there is chatter that someone has demanded a trade. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to hear it's Connor.

I sure hope it's Connor Brown if it's a Connor.

 

[Shanahanigans]

This is just for February, but this is another major cause for concern IMO. At no point over the last 4 seasons, even during our 2-9-1 start, were the Oilers being outscored and outchanced to this level. This is both a skater+coaching+goaltending issue. I don’t think we’ve been bottom of the league for a stretch in this category since pre- 2020. Lottery level roster stuff.

 

[Soundwave]

San Jose has all their retention slots used so we would be adding 2mill in cap for a 4th liner.

3rd team retains, 1 mill retained at a deadline is peanuts. San Jose themselves probably wants very little for him.

We have a good chance of retaining him too since he seems like he really liked it here, whereas with a Frederic, you're talking about an American player who's played his entire career in the US. Likely he bolts unless we overpay him in the summer.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Yup. And there is chatter that someone has demanded a trade. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to hear it's Connor.

Why on earth would Connor request a trade half way through the season. Also as if a kid like that is just sitting on a nuclear bomb piece of information like that.

 

[Soundwave]

This is just for February, but this is another major cause for concern IMO. At no point over the last 4 seasons, even during our 2-9-1 start, were the Oilers being outscored and outchanced to this level. This is both a skater+coaching+goaltending issue. I don’t think we’ve been bottom of the league for a stretch in this category since pre- 2020. Lottery level roster stuff.

It probably was there when Tippett got himself fired for Woodcroft.

 

[Arpeggio]

This is just for February, but this is another major cause for concern IMO. At no point over the last 4 seasons, even during our 2-9-1 start, were the Oilers being outscored and outchanced to this level. This is both a skater+coaching+goaltending issue. I don’t think we’ve been bottom of the league for a stretch in this category since pre- 2020. Lottery level roster stuff.

Carolina game seemed like the beginning of a turn around. No doubt, that stretch out of the four nations tournament is the worst that this team has played in a long, long time. But considering how strong their metrics were for the first 45 games of the year, it seems like something they should be able to pull out of.

 

[GM BoJack]

I sure hope it's Connor Brown if it's a Connor.

It’s Connor Ungar.

He’s probably sick knowing he’s playing for the Oilers farm team and he’s from Shelbyville.

 

[Canovin]

Yup. And there is chatter that someone has demanded a trade. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to hear it's Connor.

Are you talking about this Connor?

 

[CycloneSweep]

3rd team retains, 1 mill retained at a deadline is peanuts. San Jose themselves probably wants very little for him.

We have a good chance of retaining him too since he seems like he really liked it here, whereas with a Frederic, you're talking about an American player who's played his entire career in the US. Likely he bolts unless we overpay him in the summer.

Frederic is a much better hockey player though. Ultimately what does it matter. Another 4th liner isn’t going to solve any issues, especisllly if it’s not a center.