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What does Bowman trade for first?


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One thing I'll never fault the team for is drafting BPA. Yakupov and Puljujarvi were mismanaged from the day they were drafted however. Draisaitl was sent down to Junior in year 1, and sent to the AHL briefly in year 2. They made him earn it and it paid off.
It wouldn't have mattered how Yakupov and Puljujarvi were handled, they have rocks for brains Hockey IQ, no level of proper development would have given either a hockey brain. Draisaitl is a hockey genius, therein lies the difference. I do agree that slow cooking Drai a bit definitely helped him though, he wasn't quite NHL ready in the beginning of his draft+1 season.
 
Look I'm not wrong, Arvy has a NMC this year and next. I'm saying if I am wrong with stuff I will at least admit it. Lot's of people don't.
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He doesn't have a NMC/NTC based on Puckpedia
 
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Trade 2 2nds an Kapanen (for cap reasons geniuses) for Jokiharju (yes it's a massive overpay, but this management team though) and then call yourselves successful or whatever. Maybe Pickard will his a crazy heater.

Guess I was right. That must bother you LMAO
No, I posted the publically available info that you were passing off as "insider" info because Nucks fans like to feel special.
 
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Trade 2 2nds an Kapanen (for cap reasons geniuses) for Jokiharju (yes it's a massive overpay, but this management team though) and then call yourselves successful or whatever. Maybe Pickard will his a crazy heater.


No, I posted the publically available info that you were passing off as "insider" info because Nucks fans like to feel special.
Whatever makes you feel good Jimmy. I'll keep calling stuff and you keep being a dink
 
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It wouldn't have mattered how Yakupov and Puljujarvi were handled, they have rocks for brains Hockey IQ, no level of proper development would have given either a hockey brain. Draisaitl is a hockey genius, therein lies the difference. I do agree that slow cooking Drai a bit definitely helped him though, he wasn't quite NHL ready in the beginning of his draft+1 season.
With proper handling, those guys would probably be middle 6 players.
 
I posted this earlier but wanted to get it in again before Friday.

I think Bowman makes a major splash this week. Not any sources, just human nature.

He's been out of the game (fairly/unfairly) for a few years and has baggage. The Oilers give him a chance to get back in the show and he's going to want to make a big mark, the "trade" to take them over the top and show the trust was worthwhile.

He cannot do "nothing" as the pressure is immense to not only get to the finals but win it all this year.

With the limited cap space, he can only make 1, maybe 2 moves. He still has many connections around the league and I (believe) is actually well regarded by other GM's.

I'm also not saying we'll all agree with the move (it may come across as desperate) but I'm thinking a Rantanen, a Karlsson, a Sorokin...something large, and then a small move like a Conner Murphy.

...but then I was pretty excited by the Arvy and J. Skinner signings...so...
 
Pickard isn't the issue anyway. 12-7 with a .909 save pct. last year, was good enough to step in and right the ship when Skinner shit the bed in the Vancouver series and 14-6 this season with a .901 save pct. while not great is fine for a backup. I'd even go as far as to say that Pickard is a value contract for what he brings.
The issue, especially this season, is the Oilers starting goaltender.
He isnt the issue but he will likely be going the other way or waived if/when we add a starting goalie.
There would be no guarantees that the acquired goalie would be an upgrade over what we lose in Pickard.
I don't think the GM has the balls to trade away Skinner

PS. I think Bowman's target is whoever starts the game tonight for CHI.
 
I posted this earlier but wanted to get it in again before Friday.

I think Bowman makes a major splash this week. Not any sources, just human nature.

He's been out of the game (fairly/unfairly) for a few years and has baggage. The Oilers give him a chance to get back in the show and he's going to want to make a big mark, the "trade" to take them over the top and show the trust was worthwhile.

He cannot do "nothing" as the pressure is immense to not only get to the finals but win it all this year.

With the limited cap space, he can only make 1, maybe 2 moves. He still has many connections around the league and I (believe) is actually well regarded by other GM's.

I'm also not saying we'll all agree with the move (it may come across as desperate) but I'm thinking a Rantanen, a Karlsson, a Sorokin...something large, and then a small move like a Conner Murphy.

...but then I was pretty excited by the Arvy and J. Skinner signings...so...
This is a really good post. It's a great theory (especially with the age of our core around Connor and Leon)
 
We can’t compete with what Florida or Dallas or maybe even Vegas can add. We don’t have the assets, we don’t have the cap and we don’t have the management.
Our hope for the offseason is that Skinner decides to play hockey, McDavid bounces back and then the rest of the roster collectively remembers how to play hockey.
We aren’t getting substantial help, we aren’t even getting middling help.
The team will add a few depth guys and then pray. It’s what we need to accept.
 
He isnt the issue but he will likely be going the other way or waived if/when we add a starting goalie.
There would be no guarantees that the acquired goalie would be an upgrade over what we lose in Pickard.
I don't think the GM has the balls to trade away Skinner

PS. I think Bowman's target is whoever starts the game tonight for CHI.
I'm actually curious if we go out and get a goalie, Like it makes WAY too much sense. How can Bowman risk it after what he has seen with Skinner?

The only problem is that there doesn't seem to be any clear upgrades out there, or any upgrades that are drastic....... It's a tough one.
 
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He isnt the issue but he will likely be going the other way or waived if/when we add a starting goalie.
There would be no guarantees that the acquired goalie would be an upgrade over what we lose in Pickard.
I don't think the GM has the balls to trade away Skinner

PS. I think Bowman's target is whoever starts the game tonight for CHI.
He already has someone better than Skinner- but I agree with you. No balls to trade away Skinner
 
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We can’t compete with what Florida or Dallas or maybe even Vegas can add. We don’t have the assets, we don’t have the cap and we don’t have the management.
Our hope for the offseason is that Skinner decides to play hockey, McDavid bounces back and then the rest of the roster collectively remembers how to play hockey.
We aren’t getting substantial help, we aren’t even getting middling help.
The team will add a few depth guys and then pray. It’s what we need to accept.
We do have the cap. Almost 6 million

We do have assets. Savoie, SOR, 1sts

The question is: How aggressive is management
 
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I'm actually curious if we go out and get a goalie, Like it makes WAY too much sense. How can Bowman risk it after what he has seen with Skinner?

The only problem is that there doesn't seem to be any clear upgrades out there, or any upgrades that are drastic....... It's a tough one.
Skinner is like the bottom worst 3 goalies in goals saved above expected/60. Literally any goalie would be an upgrade...and a clear one
 
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Ha. You couldn't be more wrong. Draisaitl worked on his skating as instructed by the team. Being sent down had nothing to do with his jump to the NHL. His skating did and that was improved in the off season. As did Bouchard.
Maroon lost weight as instructed by the team.....in the off-season

Both Yakupov and JP ignored their instructed assignments. This is well known

You're literally blaming the organization for players refusing to do theirs homework. Nonsense
I'm blaming the organization for rushing players. The only nonsense is your assumptions. Have a nice day kiddo.
 
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You are not wrong, but when you let Mcleod go then you better go get some more speed. Instead? They lost more speed with Foegele and Holloway leaving.........

They can do some damage repair this deadline, but will they?????

Yeah the problem wasn't the McLeod deal. As you pointed out the problem is that we added Skinner and Arvidsson who just haven't fit. I thought those two should have put up 50 goals together without trying.

Holloway had a career 9 NHL goals prior to this year and Foegele was coming off a career year of 20 goals (13 was his previous high).

I think it's criminal how Knoblauch has turned two proven top 6 forwards into dog meat.

All Bowman can do now is go out and fix the mistake.
 
Skinner is like the bottom worst 3 goalies in goals saved above expected/60. Literally any goalie would be an upgrade...and a clear one
I mean Gibson is a bit of an unknown. I'm not sure we can say he would be a massive upgrade.

I'm not great at judging goalie talent so I should stay out of it, but I do know Stu Skinner looks big and not athletic in the net.
 
We can’t compete with what Florida or Dallas or maybe even Vegas can add. We don’t have the assets, we don’t have the cap and we don’t have the management.
Our hope for the offseason is that Skinner decides to play hockey, McDavid bounces back and then the rest of the roster collectively remembers how to play hockey.
We aren’t getting substantial help, we aren’t even getting middling help.
The team will add a few depth guys and then pray. It’s what we need to accept.
This why I think we need to add someone like Marchand. McDavid is all skills but isn't chatty enough to be a vocal leader.he is likely one of the quietest guys in the locker room. Marchand is a natural when it comes to being the glue that keeps the guys together. A bit less washed up version of Perry.
 
I'm blaming the organization for rushing players. The only nonsense is your assumptions. Have a nice day kiddo.

Were Yak and JP really rushed though?

Yak had the lockout time to hone his game - he chose to go back to KHL instead of sticking around in NA.
JP agent was a dbag that had some alleged under the table thing with Chia about bringing him in and giving him 'guaranteed' ice time

Even if we disregard their rock for brains, they hurt themselves just as much with how unprepared they were for the NHL
 
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