Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Forwards & Goaltending Under a Microscope, Which Bottom 6 Forwards Do You Keep?

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Henrique: 36G past two seasons.

Brown: 15 plus ENG's



Brown was elevated (for reasons I can't understand)

Henrique has scored 3X as many career goals as Brown so none of it makes sense.

Yeah but you hate Connor Brown for just personal reasons at this point.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

So I did already post something, but I wonder if Arvidsson for the Oilers' 3rd back from the Sharks might work?

 

[McBigYak]

??? What do you mean? Skinner just took a team to the finals twice, he's a young goaltender, Henrique is decent veteran center with alot of history in the organization for their $6.4M goalie who can't really stay healthy and is getting passed in the organization.

Again, if the Ducks wanted more, they should have traded him at the deadline.

He's statistically the worst playoff goaltender in history, or one of the worst, and is as streaky as it gets. He's a very expensive backup that can't be relied upon outside of random 15 game stretches of strong play.

The goaltending market is pretty thin. Can't see Anaheim trading Gibson, adding salary, and getting back players that really won't provide all that much impact and both with only 1 year left.

 

[belair]

I'm guessing Rasmus Andersson to CBJ happens prior to the draft.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Yeah but you hate Connor Brown for just personal reasons at this point.

Is there a reason I should like him as an Oilers player?

I keep asking.

I hate Stew Skinner. I detest Connor Brown being an Oiler. I would love if either were on other teams.

 

[Canovin]

Henrique: 36G past two seasons.

Brown: 15 plus ENG's



Brown was elevated (for reasons I can't understand)

Henrique has scored 3X as many career goals as Brown so none of it makes sense.

Season production doesn't matter at this point.

If you ask anyone who's been the better player in the playoffs in both years, they would say Brown. Where Brown shines is on the PK. They call him Playoffs Brown for a reason haha

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He's statistically the worst playoff goaltender in history, or one of the worst, and is as streaky as it gets. He's a very expensive backup that can't be relied upon outside of random 15 game stretches of strong play.

The goaltending market is pretty thin. Can't see Anaheim trading Gibson, adding salary, and getting back players that really won't provide all that much impact.

Totally, Oilers fans just loath him, but like with everything, everyone doesn't hate him as much as you want to believe.

Again, I don't really care, if the Ducks wanted more, there was the deadline, people will wait Verbeek out.

 

[Draiskull]

Why though? They didn't have him this year and they were successful. Next year you have money to sign Walman and Kulak if you want to keep them.

Part of the success was due to the team rallying around their top Dman being absent and stepping up to fill that gap. Management should know how banged up Ekholm was in the finals. I agree that he looked and played like trash and even Emberson would have been an upgrade. You keep him and even extend him if you know that he can get back his 6mon old self

 

[WaitingForUser]

Ask yourself why this would make any sense for Anaheim. There is just no way they make this deal. We win it by a landslide.

I guess Skinner to back up Dostal maybe but even then.... They're trading their #1 goaltender for an expensive backup and an over the hill bottom 6 player AND adding cap.

Except Gibson is no longer their number 1 goalie. Dostal played the majority of the games last season. Henrique is well liked in their dressing room and a good veteran presence for a team looking to take a step forward this season. In saying that I don’t expect Verbeek to make the deal unless we included a first or two seconds.

 

[Draiskull]

Henrique: 36G past two seasons.

Brown: 15 plus ENG's



Brown was elevated to topline (for reasons I can't understand)

Henrique has scored 3X as many career goals as Brown so none of it makes sense.

IMO Brown was moved up to the top line because McDavid wanted him there.

 

[McBigYak]

Totally, Oilers fans just loath him, but like with everything, everyone doesn't hate him as much as you want to believe.

Again, I don't really care, if the Ducks wanted more, there was the deadline, people will wait Verbeek out.

There is almost no question they're giving up the better goaltender with term.

So really what you're hoping is that Adam Henrique on a 1 year $4.5M deal is the sweetener that gets it done. Just don't think it is enough.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Except Gibson is no longer their number 1 goalie. Dostal played the majority of the games last season. Henrique is well liked in their dressing room and a good veteran presence for a team looking to take a step forward this season. In saying that I don’t expect Verbeek to make the deal unless we included a first or two seconds.

Verbeek doesn't really do that though, look at Kreider, Husso and Trouba, he just gives stuff away. I don't see any reason to treat him any different now.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Season production doesn't matter at this point.

If you ask anyone who's been the better player in the playoffs in both years, they would say Brown. Where Brown shines is on the PK. They call him Playoffs Brown for a reason haha

You mean "playoffs Brown" who shows up one series each postseason and had been HS each postseason?

Its like the cult of Brown. He shows for 7 games and disappears the rest

"Playoff Brown" 8 career playoff goals even including a few ENG. lol Even with the ENG's he scores around 1 goal every 8 playoff games.

Yeah, fails fact check.

 

[McBigYak]

Except Gibson is no longer their number 1 goalie. Dostal played the majority of the games last season. Henrique is well liked in their dressing room and a good veteran presence for a team looking to take a step forward this season. In saying that I don’t expect Verbeek to make the deal unless we included a first or two seconds.

Doesn't really matter. A players value is not determined by where they are on the depth chart. Draisaitl is not the team's #1 C, but he wouldn't command lower in a trade if he was dealt because of that.

 

[Pip]

Yeah but you hate Connor Brown for just personal reasons at this point.

Tbf setting the Brown stuff aside basically every forward got better looks in the top 6 than Henrique. I think Janmark might have had more time next to McDrai.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

There is almost no question they're giving up the better goaltender with term.

So really what you're hoping is that Adam Henrique on a 1 year $4.5M deal is the sweetener that gets it done. Just don't think it is enough.

I mean not really, they're giving up the goaltender with more of history, but it's not like Gibson has been "great" in recent years. It's why he got passed in the organization.

Again, you don't seem to understand who Henrique is to the Ducks or what he does as a player, and the fact that Verbeek is very bad at all of this.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Tbf setting the Brown stuff aside basically every forward got better looks in the top 6 than Henrique. I think Janmark might have had more time next to McDrai.

I mean I don't really care. It was pointed out by either Curlock or Willis that Henrique dedicated himself to being more of shutdown center and had some decent defensive results, but the offense suffered.

 

[Drivesaitl]

IMO Brown was moved up to the top line because McDavid wanted him there.

Bingo. The only reason. Not one that makes a lot of sense. The favored red headed stepchild

I think the only reason Connor Brown was ever here, and extended is Connor McDavid. Which he stated as much that he wanted him and went to bat for him.

Well, it didn't work out. Connor Brown just made McD shorthanded anytime he was with him.

At least he never plays with Drai. lol

 

[Little Fury]

Yeah but you hate Connor Brown for just personal reasons at this point.

I think "he's not a very good player" is a good enough reason.

 

[M Ace]

Who the hell is this Tomasek guy and why is he being penciled in as a regular already

Winner of the scoring title & MVP last season in Swedish Elite League!

 

[Little Fury]

You mean "playoffs Brown" who shows up one series each postseason and had been HS each postseason?

Its like the cult of Brown. He shows for 7 games and disappears the rest

"Playoff Brown" 8 career playoff goals even including a few ENG. lol Even with the ENG's he scores around 1 goal every 8 playoff games.

Yeah, fails fact check.

Also funny to pump up his PK ability after a playoff run where our pk got taken to the woodshed regularly.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Season production doesn't matter at this point.

If you ask anyone who's been the better player in the playoffs in both years, they would say Brown. Where Brown shines is on the PK. They call him Playoffs Brown for a reason haha

 

[MessierII]

I think "he's not a very good player" is a good enough reason.

I mean he’s not great but he’s a 30 something point guy who PK’s. Quintessential good 3rd liner. Not a good player if you’re expecting him to be a top 6 guy I guess?

 

[WaitingForUser]

Verbeek doesn't really do that though, look at Kreider, Husso and Trouba, he just gives stuff away. I don't see any reason to treat him any different now.

How many of those trades were in division?

 

[Drivesaitl]

I mean I don't really care. It was pointed out by either Curlock or Willis that Henrique dedicated himself to being more of shutdown center and had some decent defensive results, but the offense suffered.

But we needed goals, we needed topsix help, we threw anybody in there including Brown, Kapanen, Perry, lol Janmark, and one of the most accomplished scorers we had left on the roster was being buried. Didn't make a lot of sense.