Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Forwards & Goaltending Under a Microscope, Which Bottom 6 Forwards Do You Keep?

[CycloneSweep]

Trent Frederic likes to play C more than W right?

No, he is quite bad at faceoffs and is much much better on the wing

 

[oXo Cube]

Again we all know Nurse is a bad contract. A third line centre is a 3 million dollar cost so Henrique is understandable. Arvidsson had his worst season in his career and Skinner was buried by our coach for reasons unbeknownst to anybody. We tried to add 2 proven 20-30 goal scorers would you have preferred we just signed 4th liners and hoped for the best? It don’t work out doesn’t mean it wasn’t a good strategy after making it to game 7 of the finals and one goal short of OT for the cup.

I would have preferred management signed players that helped the team win rather than lose.

Like Dylan Holloway, for example.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Waiting for that potential Kotkaniemi and Samuelsson buyouts

Buffalo GM pretty much came out and said that rumor was BS

 

[McDNicks17]

Trent Frederic likes to play C more than W right?

Yeah. In the most recent interview he said he wants to play more center.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Waiting for that potential Kotkaniemi and Samuelsson buyouts

I think I mentioned this before, but Adams in Buffalo said they wouldn't buy out Samuelsson and are looking the trade route(but I think they do because it's pretty cheap for them)

Which would be a boon for this team imo.

 

[Canovin]

Jones would look the same as Nurse on the Oilers.

No he wouldn't. Jones is an upgrade on Nurse. It helps that Florida got him at 7M

 

[BeranekAndNeck]

$10.5 for Bouchard, $3.85 for Frederic leaves us with just over $2M. Trading Arvidsson is a necessity, but that only brings us to $6M which is like one top 6 forward. Something else has gotta give.

The org seems to believe Frederic can be a 3C so that would mean bye bye to Henrique as well.

I for one don’t think that is a smart play and we’ll be forced to give up an asset next spring for a real centre, but Henrique’s age and speed are not a fit and neither is his cap hit so it has to happen regardless.

?-Frederic-Brown
Podkolzin-Janmark-Perry
Jones, Kapanen

Lots of choices for 3LW on the market at least (Jeannot?). So long as we don’t anchor ourselves to a risky bet with any amount of term I’m fine playing at the FA casino.

 

[McDoused]

This is how rumors start...

This is literally a rumors thread.

 

[Canovin]

I think I mentioned this before, but Adams in Buffalo said they wouldn't buy out Samuelsson and are looking the trade route(but I think they do because it's pretty cheap for them)

Which would be a boon for this team imo.

Every team is just waiting for Buffalo to buy him out. No one is taking at 4M. His buyout is only 770k. The only downside is Buffalo would only have 1 buyout in the next 7 or so years

 

[CycloneSweep]

So our CURRENT roster is, if the rumors of Frederic’s deal and Arvidssons departure are true.

RNH - McDavid - Hyman
Frederic - Draisaitl - Savoie
Janmark - Henrique - Tomasek
Jones - Philp - Samanski
Marjala

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Stetcher
Walman - Kulak
Emberson

Skinner
Pickard

And that would leave us with 5 mill in cap space.

So that forward group is…extremely bad. Tons of work to do there right now.

 

[Oilhawks]

Actually as far managing the cap goes last year was a very very good job of it. Played some serious 4 d chess to be able to ice the roster we did in the post season.

Bowman had to do a mini retool after Jackson f***ed the cap

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Every team is just waiting for Buffalo to buy him out. No one is taking at 4M. His buyout is only 770k. The only downside is Buffalo would only have 1 buyout in the next 7 or so years

Looking at both players, if those team's want cap space, buyouts are an excellent option because the remaining cap hits, though they go multiple years after the contracts are done, are at or below league minimum.

 

[joestevens29]

Yeah. In the most recent interview he said he wants to play more center.

Ideally they give him a good 20 games at center. Not this move him around every second game with different linemates and then wonder why we have no chemistry

 

[Canovin]

Kotkaniemi would be Henrique replacement if Carolina buys him out. Frederic I would keep at wing

 

[PitkanensGitch]

The org seems to believe Frederic can be a 3C so that would mean bye bye to Henrique as well.

I for one don’t think that is a smart play and we’ll be forced to give up an asset next spring for a real centre, but Henrique’s age and speed are not a fit and neither is his cap hit so it has to happen regardless.

?-Frederic-Brown
Podkolzin-Janmark-Perry
Jones, Kapanen

Lots of choices for 3LW on the market at least (Jeannot?). So long as we don’t anchor ourselves to a risky bet with any amount of term I’m fine playing at the FA casino.

I think it’s a perfectly fine play. Frederic at C is better than Henrique. Put Henrique out to pasture.

Frederic had some amazing seasons in Boston and is in his prime. He will be a big piece next year for us and the org knows that. High ankle sprain is no joke. Remember Draisaitl not being able to skate?

Kostin-Frederic-Kassian would’ve been a sick line.

 

[backhandsauce]

Kostin will be a UFA, bring him home.

 

[KlefDown]

will there be more cap clearing moves that Bob was referring to or was this the one and only?

 

[frag2]

You CAN win a cup with Nurse as long as he is your number 4 and has a puck moving partner akin to Barrie was on his first year here. But if he’s your number 2 you are not winning.

Issue here is Nurse also wants to be the puck mover himself. This problem results in both D being aggressive and out of position.

IIRC, there was a lot of chatter by the media about how Nurse tries to overcompensate and do a lot to cover his D partner's 'flaws'.

Oh the irony

 

[CycloneSweep]

Kostin will be a UFA, bring him home.

I don’t get this obsession with Kostin. He’s probably the most overrated player to play here.

 

[foshizzle]

$10.5 for Bouchard, $3.85 for Frederic leaves us with just over $2M. Trading Arvidsson is a necessity, but that only brings us to $6M which is like one top 6 forward. Something else has gotta give.

Probably Henrique. You can easily fill in the bottom of the roster with 9M. Appleton, Beauvellier (sp), Olaufson, Gaudette, Saad. All could be had for good deals. Knob also needs to move to pairs vs trios. Ie McDavid-Hyman, Nuge-Drai, etc and then fill the gaps.

 

[dem]

I don’t get this obsession with Kostin. He’s probably the most overrated player to play here.

I think he's a gamer with motivation issues.

If you can get him for nothing I'm ok.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

What about Granlund?

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Issue here is Nurse also wants to be the puck mover himself. This problem results in both D being aggressive and out of position.

IIRC, there was a lot of chatter by the media about how Nurse tries to overcompensate and do a lot to cover his D partner's 'flaws'.

Oh the irony

His unforced icings/60 is league leading along with up ice rushes to nowhere resulting in a dump into the corner with no follow on pressure creating a change of possession and easy controlled zone exit for our opponents/60.

 

[backhandsauce]

We need some "bite"

Kostin can bring that along with TF.

 

[oXo Cube]

I don’t get this obsession with Kostin. He’s probably the most overrated player to play here.

There are a lot of Oilers fans who think being unable to play hockey at the NHL level is OK as long as you finish your checks.