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Which Bottom 6 Forwards Do You Keep?


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I have no idea if Savoie is better/worse than Yams was. If I had to guess, I would state that statistically, its actually unlikely that Savoie will have as long of a career as Yams did. Yams scored 20 goals one year after all.

However, Savoie is built differently than Yams is. They have similar height/weight stats, but Savoie is more stout. So comparisons due to physical stature really shouldn't be made.
I haven't watched much of Savoie so this might not come to fruition. I think Savoie likely rounds into a Todd Marchant type of player know for the defensive side of his game. Savoie probably peaks at around 26 years old. We can't wait on that.
 
I have no idea if Savoie is better/worse than Yams was. If I had to guess, I would state that statistically, its actually unlikely that Savoie will have as long of a career as Yams did. Yams scored 20 goals one year after all.

However, Savoie is built differently than Yams is. They have similar height/weight stats, but Savoie is more stout. So comparisons due to physical stature really shouldn't be made.
Lol. One guy is 5-9, 178 lbs and the other guy is listed as 5-9, 179 lbs.

How does one extra pound make Savoie “stouter” than Yamamoto??!

Anyway, the issue remains that they are too similar, for Savoie to be any great panacea to the Oilers needs.
 
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Lol. One guy is 5-9, 178 lbs and the other guy is listed as 5-9, 179 lbs.

How does one extra pound make Savoie “stouter” than Yamamoto??!

Anyway, the issue remains that they are too similar, for Savoie to be any great panacea to the Oilers needs.
Play Savoie in the top 6, increase his value and then use him as bait at the deadline for a big name.
 
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Why are Edmonton media still delusional about Skinner? I keep hearing them talking about finding a better backup for Stu instead of a different starter. Pickard gave us everything you could want from a backup, he literally won at a way higher rate and kept us in the playoffs. He’s also cheap.

Stick with Picks and get a f***ing starter. Mcdavid might be forced to not commit due to this ineptitude
 
I guess, scoring is still the hardest thing, flawed player or not, if you're a team who struggles offensively he will help. They can always shelter him with offensive minutes.

The Flyers did well here. Verbeek is a VERY bad GM.
I don't think you've noticed how bad Zegras has gotten. Poehling, on the other hand, is a very effective bottom six center with good speed.

This is a move that a team trying to improve makes. It adds a player that's a far better fit, adds a high pick and frees several million in cap space in a year where they're in the market for a big fish.

Zegras may do well in Philly, but there's a good chance that he's the flawed, one dimensional player that the rest of the league views him as. And they offense really isn't that impressive.
 
Lol. One guy is 5-9, 178 lbs and the other guy is listed as 5-9, 179 lbs.

How does one extra pound make Savoie “stouter” than Yamamoto??!

Anyway, the issue remains that they are too similar, for Savoie to be any great panacea to the Oilers needs.
People do carry weight differently.

Draisaitl and Janmark are the same height and only four pounds off but you’d never know it by the way they play.
 
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Signing Jake Allen is the most Edmonton management thing to do.

The mentality that our goaltending only needs a slight tweak. No it needs a full overhaul.

I don't blame mcdavid for a 3 year deal or even entertaining the market if this is the solution to goaltending. A guy who is basically a backup on half the league teams.
 
I guess, scoring is still the hardest thing, flawed player or not, if you're a team who struggles offensively he will help. They can always shelter him with offensive minutes.

The Flyers did well here. Verbeek is a VERY bad GM.

Eh, I think you're too harsh on Verbeek.

Gauthier - McTavish - Terry
Killorn - Carlsson - Vatrano
Kreider - Sennecke - Fabbri
Leason - Strome - Poehling

Lacombe - Mintyukov
Trouba - Zellweger
Gudas - Marin???

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Gibson

Great mix of size and skill in that group. Great mix of veteran leaders and young talent. Back stopped by best in the league level goaltending from Dostal. Great young defenseman who have size and move the puck well. Big aggressive young forwards with a ton of talent and speed. One shot scorers. Solid spine of top line potential centers.

All taught by coach Q. I wouldn't be surprised if they make the playoffs.

It's a great time to be a ducks fan, in my opinion.
 
I guess, scoring is still the hardest thing, flawed player or not, if you're a team who struggles offensively he will help. They can always shelter him with offensive minutes.

The Flyers did well here. Verbeek is a VERY bad GM.
We missed our chance to off load nurse here. A good gm can make things happen and is able to identify stupid GMs.

You know people who will take the back end of a Duncan Keith contract. The type of contract that you can't even write under the current CBA.

I'm tired of other teams looking at edmonton saying "let's see what we can get out of their stupid gm".
 
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Lol. One guy is 5-9, 178 lbs and the other guy is listed as 5-9, 179 lbs.

How does one extra pound make Savoie “stouter” than Yamamoto??!

Anyway, the issue remains that they are too similar, for Savoie to be any great panacea to the Oilers needs.
The McLeod Savoie deal was never going to be a slam dunk. It made sense due to the cap issue Jackson walked himself into and with a premise of having another emerging bigger body centre/wing option in Holloway to mitigate McLeod's loss. Trading an NHL centre for a winger, a small skill one at that, is a tough bet for an organization with a hollowed out prospect and asset pool and clock ticking on a window phase team.

We'll see what Savoie brings in regular season production. But rubber will hit the road with hard, heavy playoff style. He has a better processor than a fearless Yamamoto which is key to survival and success. Will be open minded but McLeod's utility including size, skating and PK ability including face-off and ability to transport pucks out of zone were all valuable attributes they could have used...
 
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I think Anaheim looks pretty solid without Zegras tbh.

Gauthier - McTavish - Terry
Killorn - Carlsson - Vatrano
Kreider - Strome - Fabbri

I think that's better than anything with Zegras in it. And pohling kind of makes sense on a fourth line along side Leason. Then they got Sennecke who likely makes the team.

If anything they likely are looking to move Fabbri.
Aren’t there rumours they’re looking at moving Terry?
 
Why are Edmonton media still delusional about Skinner? I keep hearing them talking about finding a better backup for Stu instead of a different starter. Pickard gave us everything you could want from a backup, he literally won at a way higher rate and kept us in the playoffs. He’s also cheap.

Stick with Picks and get a f***ing starter. Mcdavid might be forced to not commit due to this ineptitude
Nah, stick with Skinner and he can be a 1B...still young enough to grow
Pickard is what he is at this point
 
I am being somewhat facetious. Consulting on team direction certainly.

But seriously, who the goaltender is going to be? On who the 6th D is going to be? Who should be the starting goalie on a given night? Coach, GM, President. The list is getting rather long I would say. Given he had a rather poor Final performance by his own admission I would think that at some point you let the GM do his job and not try to micromanage the team you play for. Its getting a bit ridiculous IMO.

That I would agree with. It gets to a certain point where the player is the GM, like LeBron for example, and it gets to be too much. I'd like to think that isn't the case with McDavid and hope there's a balance here
 
That I would agree with. It gets to a certain point where the player is the GM, like LeBron for example, and it gets to be too much. I'd like to think that isn't the case with McDavid and hope there's a balance here
To be fair, Lebron has won 2 championships being a GM and 2 with Miami by calling up his buddies to team up. At this point, McDavid is allowed to be the GM or team up. Someone has to take out Florida and the rats
 
People want Terry and he had 7 hits the ENTIRE season. Not to mention he is getting paid 7 million dollars LOL

Unless they are taking back Henrique and Arvidsson, no thank you...
if the Oilers want to bring players in of course they'll have to ship players out because our latest bullshit GM put us in a hole... via the old Ken Holland special "money in money out" paradox

meanwhile Florida will snake themselves another Jones and Marchand... just because
 
Nah, stick with Skinner and he can be a 1B...still young enough to grow
Pickard is what he is at this point
Skinner is fine if he's only playing 25-30 games. The problem is though, he'd essentially be a $2.6 million backup in that case, whereas Pickard is only $1M. I guess I would keep Skinner if the guy they bring in is injury prone (Gibson) or just starting to role into a starting goalie (Hofer). But other than that, the ideal scenario is that they bring in a guy that leaves no doubt as to who the starter is going to be, in which case Skinner should be out the door.
 
Eh, I think you're too harsh on Verbeek.

Gauthier - McTavish - Terry
Killorn - Carlsson - Vatrano
Kreider - Sennecke - Fabbri
Leason - Strome - Poehling

Lacombe - Mintyukov
Trouba - Zellweger
Gudas - Marin???

Distal
Gibson

Great mix of size and skill in that group. Great mix of veteran leaders and young talent. Back stopped by best in the league level goaltending from Dostal. Great young defenseman who have size and move the puck well. Big aggressive young forwards with a ton of talent and speed. One shot scorers. Solid spine of top line potential centers.

All taught by coach Q. I wouldn't be surprised if they make the playoffs.

It's a great time to be a ducks fan, in my opinion.
Verbeek is building a team and nurturing a culture with curated pick up of a few character, hard game veteran players. We saw the Oilers extended rebuild(s) flounder trying to push its development with latch key kids driving the bus. Anaheim is loaded with young, pedigree skill and size with some hard game veterans in Trouba, Gudas and Kreider to help their group mature into a team that will be compete and be hard to play against. Sold low on Zegras but moved out a soft, entitled play long on dangle, low on maturity and putting on the work boots required to win at this apex level. They could afford to do so (not necessarily agreeing about the return) to forge the culture they are building.

Verbeek, as 'the little ball of hate', played the game hard with zero corners cut. Has built up solid management cred within a sustained winning organization. Hired a taskmaster coach to infuse work ethic now an elite winning one to pull this thing together.
 
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To be fair, Lebron has won 2 championships being a GM and 2 with Miami by calling up his buddies to team up. At this point, McDavid is allowed to be the GM or team up. Someone has to take out Florida and the rats
Do we want McDavid calling up his buddies for a team up? He's gotten Warren Foegele, Connor Brown, Devin Shore, and Travis Dermott. None of whom were needle movers.
 
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