Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Does Bowman Make His Mark on the Team Before Training Camp?

[Bryanbryoil]

JJ has already done a lot. Right now we have our 2 RFA's and the hopeful Draisaitl extension. Does Bowman get anything done outside of those potential 3 signings?

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[CanadasTeam99]

I think you see a lot of news within the next week

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I think you see a lot of news within the next week

Anything beyond those 3 signings IYO?

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Anything beyond those 3 signings IYO?

I would say watch this week and then see one more transaction happening
Jeff still knows what he is doing

 

[Thomas Tatar]

I know we are all expecting a short term deal for Holloway and Broberg but, maybe there is an opportunity to sign Broberg to a longer term deal for a bit more money ala Klefbom to tempt a young guy with millions before he breaks out. Is there any appetite for this?

I do recognize this would mean salary would have to move out, I am sure some more creative than I could come up with something. Maybe move both Kane and Ceci for cheaper replacements.

I just want to avoid anymore Nurse or Bouchard scenarios in the future…

 

[CupofOil]

I wonder if a Draisaitl extension was already agreed to and they wanted to wait until after the Bowman announcement to confirm it to calm the waters with the fanbase after the initial shitstorm from the Bowman announcement. Wouldn't surprise if me if JJ strategically did this.

 

[Fourier]

I wonder if a Draisaitl extension was already agreed to and they wanted to wait until after the Bowman announcement to confirm it to calm the waters with the fanbase after the initial shitstorm from the Bowman announcement. Wouldn't surprise if me if JJ strategically did this.

If this was the case, it would be a smart move. I hope it is in fact the case by the way.

 

[Mr Positive]

I wonder if a Draisaitl extension was already agreed to and they wanted to wait until after the Bowman announcement to confirm it to calm the waters with the fanbase after the initial shitstorm from the Bowman announcement. Wouldn't surprise if me if JJ strategically did this.

The agent said that we should be worried if he isn't signed by September. So there's lots of time. The GM had to be added first, before signing Draisaitl and our RFAs. So, no I don't think we have been talking with Drai yet. It seems to me that it was Drai's camp not talking until they see who we hire

I'm not expecting any signings until late August. They are going to wait more than just a couple days. The heat will die down just like it did with Keith. Even Winnipeg went through some of this with Cheveldayoff

 

[Fourier]

I know we are all expecting a short term deal for Holloway and Broberg but, maybe there is an opportunity to sign Broberg to a longer term deal for a bit more money ala Klefbom to tempt a young guy with millions before he breaks out. Is there any appetite for this?

I do recognize this would mean salary would have to move out, I am sure some more creative than I could come up with something. Maybe move both Kane and Ceci for cheaper replacements.

I just want to avoid anymore Nurse or Bouchard scenarios in the future…

It would be great to get both signed for three years to get them past the McDavid extension. But what does a long term deal for Broberg look like though? The cap situation in 2025-26 sort of limits the amount you can give him. And any limit on the amount significantly impacts the term.

Even if you thought he was going to really break out how do you manage say $3-4M on the cap this year and next?

 

[CupofOil]

The agent said that we should be worried if he isn't signed by September. So there's lots of time. The GM had to be added first, before signing Draisaitl and our RFAs. So, no I don't think we have been talking with Drai yet. It seems to me that it was Drai's camp not talking until they see who we hire

I'm not expecting any signings until late August. They are going to wait more than just a couple days. The heat will die down just like it did with Keith. Even Winnipeg went through some of this with Cheveldayoff

When Stauffer says he expects something to happen soon especially a big one like this, I'd say there's a good chance it's happening soon. Not necessarily today or tomorrow but soon enough when it's not distanced too much from the Bowman introduction and far enough away when it can be believed that this was Bowman's negotiation. I'd be surprised if this dragged out to late August.

 

[Thomas Tatar]

It would be great to get both signed for three years to get them past the McDavid extension. But what does a long term deal for Broberg look like though? The cap situation in 2025-26 sort of limits the amount you can give him. And any limit on the amount significantly impacts the term.

Even if you thought he was going to really break out how do you manage say $3-4M on the cap this year and next?

I mean I agree but I’m not an NHL GM. Maybe it’s impossible but there might be a creative way to do it.

 

[Canovin]

JJ has already done a lot. Right now we have our 2 RFA's and the hopeful Draisaitl extension. Does Bowman get anything done outside of those potential 3 signings?

It's probably already done. Just waiting for McDavid wedding to announce them

 

[Fourier]

I mean I agree but I’m not an NHL GM. Maybe it’s impossible but there might be a creative way to do it.

There are lots of creative things teams can do in many situations but a long term extension in this case doesn't leave much room.

A two year deal might be the best you can hope for for both. But to get to 3 you would need to make the last year attractive enough that the QO really favours the player. That's not easy to do while keeping the cap hit low enough to work for the next two years. If you are looking at a deal that takes him into his UFA years then I suspect you are looking at $4M+. That may well end up being a smart move in hindsight but it is extremely risky not just in terms of Broberg living up to it, but also because of its short term cap implications.

 

[Canovin]

There are lots of creative things teams can do in many situations but a long term extension in this case doesn't leave much room.

A two year deal might be the best you can hope for for both. But to get to 3 you would need to make the last year attractive enough that the QO really favours the player. That's not easy to do while keeping the cap hit low enough to work for the next two years. If you are looking at a deal that takes him into his UFA years then I suspect you are looking at $4M+. That may well end up being a smart move in hindsight but it is extremely risky not just in terms of Broberg living up to it, but also because of its short term cap implications.

4M x 5years. It takes Broberg straight to UFA. He's Swede so they always take discount.

 

[Fourier]

4M x 5years. It takes Broberg straight to UFA. He's Swede so they always take discount.

How does that work this year and next? You would have to move out both Ceci and Kulak which is really risky.

 

[Canovin]

How does that work this year and next? You would have to move out both Ceci and Kulak which is really risky.

If we LTIR Kane and move Ceci, we can. Probably not the best idea. That Nurse deal is hurting us in so many ways.

 

[McDoused]

If we LTIR Kane and move Ceci, we can. Probably not the best idea. That Nurse deal is hurting us in so many ways.

If Bowman was able to trade Nurse, this board would lose it.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I would say watch this week and then see one more transaction happening
Jeff still knows what he is doing

Are you our new Speedy Turtle?

 

[joestevens29]

I wonder if a Draisaitl extension was already agreed to and they wanted to wait until after the Bowman announcement to confirm it to calm the waters with the fanbase after the initial shitstorm from the Bowman announcement. Wouldn't surprise if me if JJ strategically did this.

This would be very genius of them.

As for the original question. I am a little curious if there any PTO's. I know there isn't a lot of space on the roster, but maybe there is a guy or two that end up earning a contract and going down to the minors.

 

[Fourier]

If we LTIR Kane and move Ceci, we can. Probably not the best idea. That Nurse deal is hurting us in so many ways.

It seems that Kane will be playing next year. You can't LTIR a player unless there is a legitimate reason that the player goes along with. Even if it is somewhat of a stretch that the player is really injured you stll need the player to agree. No chance Kane agrees to take two years off unless there is something much worse than what we have heard. Now you could move Kane so there is that. But he has a NMC so he still would have to be onside.

 

[Canovin]

It seems that Kane will be playing next year. You can't LTIR a player unless there is a legitimate reason that the player goes along with. Even if it is somewhat of a stretch that the player is really injured you stll need the player to agree. No chance Kane agrees to take two years off unless there is something much worse than what we have heard. Now you could move Kane so there is that. But he has a NMC so he still would have to be onside.

If we don't LTIR Kane, and we signed Holloway and Broberg 1M each, someone still has to go.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Doesn’t Kane still have a hernia?

 

[joestevens29]

Doesn’t Kane still have a hernia?

I thought they mentioned that it's not like a normal hernia, but something more to do with the hip.

Gregor had some guy talking about it a couple weeks back. But it wasn't even 100% what exactly the injury truly was

Feel like at this point both sides aren't afraid of taking time before going the surgery route.

 

[Canovin]

I thought they mentioned that it's not like a normal hernia, but something more to do with the hip.

Gregor had some guy talking about it a couple weeks back. But it wasn't even 100% what exactly the injury truly was

Feel like at this point both sides aren't afraid of taking time before going the surgery route.

Kane might be waiting until the season starts to do his surgery and giving the Oilers the LTIR window. Maybe both parties talked about it. He gets to hang out and spend time with his family until the playoffs

 

[SupremeTeam16]

It seems that Kane will be playing next year. You can't LTIR a player unless there is a legitimate reason that the player goes along with. Even if it is somewhat of a stretch that the player is really injured you stll need the player to agree. No chance Kane agrees to take two years off unless there is something much worse than what we have heard. Now you could move Kane so there is that. But he has a NMC so he still would have to be onside.

I thought Jackson’s comments on Kane’s injury during his free agency presser were interesting. Basically said Kane has multiple lingering issues and that he was going to take some time off and he would come back in a few weeks and see some specialists and get some second opinions.

At the time I thought they were just planning to line up any surgeries he needed with the beginning of the year to buy themselves some time to figure out their roster and finding the space to fit him in upon his return. But maybe there is more to it and Kane is pushing back against surgery.

My question is this, what if a player doesn’t want to get surgery but team doctors feel that it’s the best option and without it, the player is at risk of re-injury, or that without corrective surgery the issue may become worse to the point of it being unmanageable through alternative treatments. In a scenario like that could a team still LTIR a player at the advice of the doctor even though the player says he is ok to play?