Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Dermott on a PTO, Will We See More PTO's? Can We Get Some Toughness Too Please?

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bringbacktheskate604

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Expecting a minimum of five to six months.

That's the worst timeline of all because it's so close to the end of the season that the temptation to use the cap space on a dman but unless Kane and the doctors are willing to commit to insurance fraud no GM in his right mind would take the risk. If they do a trade especially this far out, the league would not be happy.

They should have pushed his surgery until end of Oct, it clearly flaunts the rules and is pretty shady but would have been huge for shaping the roster early, which is better than at the TDL.

Assuming they can't do nothing with LTIR, what players could you guys dump from the offense to clear cap if a deal for a dman comes up before enough cap is accrued?

I mean you would still score a ton without one of Skinner or Ardvidson, do you think if the defense is playing really bad that moving a guy you just signed to fill a need elsewhere would be considered?
 

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That's the worst timeline of all because it's so close to the end of the season that the temptation to use the cap space on a dman but unless Kane and the doctors are willing to commit to insurance fraud no GM in his right mind would take the risk. If they do a trade especially this far out, the league would not be happy.

They should have pushed his surgery until end of Oct, it clearly flaunts the rules and is pretty shady but would have been huge for shaping the roster early, which is better than at the TDL.

Assuming they can't do nothing with LTIR, what players could you guys dump from the offense to clear cap if a deal for a dman comes up before enough cap is accrued?

I mean you would still score a ton without one of Skinner or Ardvidson, do you think if the defense is playing really bad that moving a guy you just signed to fill a need elsewhere would be considered?
I mean it's minimum 5-6 months recovery . I'm sure we can fit him in for 1 game at the end like Vegas did with stone or something along those lines.
 

bringbacktheskate604

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They’re giving themselves as many options as possible. Who knows what’s going to happen between now and when he’s ready to come back, they could have another ltir candidate, they could accrue enough cap to upgrade and bring him back before playoffs. They also have the option to send him to Bako for a conditioning stint, get him some game action if he has to stay on ltir until playoffs.
The thing is tho if he's healthy enough to play with two weeks left you have to activate him and the league has already said they will be playing close attention.

I also don't think you can just send him on a conditioning stint that conviently lasts until the seasons over. They would make it so his stint would end before the seasons over.

With Stone last season Vegas either got extremely lucky with the timing, and we're able to prove he wasn't ready or maybe he only came back because it was the playoffs, or they committed fraud lol. But the league wasn't happy regardless.

Honestly tho aside from Anderson or some Hronek type situation where he wasn't on the market pops up, who available is even worth the headache? Might as well accrue space and make the best trade you can in what looks like a depressing group of rentals.
 

bringbacktheskate604

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I mean it's minimum 5-6 months recovery . I'm sure we can fit him in for 1 game at the end like Vegas did with stone or something along those lines.
Fair enough. Especially if a guy like Rasmus is on the table but it's still a risk especially if Kane really wants to return and recovery goes well but ya it's gotta be tempting.
 

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The thing is tho if he's healthy enough to play with two weeks left you have to activate him and the league has already said they will be playing close attention.

I also don't think you can just send him on a conditioning stint that conviently lasts until the seasons over. They would make it so his stint would end before the seasons over.

With Stone last season Vegas either got extremely lucky with the timing, and we're able to prove he wasn't ready or maybe he only came back because it was the playoffs, or they committed fraud lol. But the league wasn't happy regardless.

Honestly tho aside from Anderson or some Hronek type situation where he wasn't on the market pops up, who available is even worth the headache? Might as well accrue space and make the best trade you can in what looks like a depressing group of rentals.

They're not going to say right now that his time for return lines up exactly with the end of the regular season, lol.

What they're saying now (5-6 months MINIMUM) is basically exactly what you would say if you're planning on basically LTIRing the guy for the entire season.

They will drop it around January or so that that rehab will require an extra month.

To be honest it's gonna be tight, players with adductor surgery (single adductor, let alone double adductor + abdominal surgery + hernia surgery) end up missing the entire season. Francouz basically retired after adductor surgery.

There are options like Chychrun or Zub or who knows what else would be available. Even a TJ Brodie, I got time for a player like that.
 
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That's the worst timeline of all because it's so close to the end of the season that the temptation to use the cap space on a dman but unless Kane and the doctors are willing to commit to insurance fraud no GM in his right mind would take the risk. If they do a trade especially this far out, the league would not be happy.

They should have pushed his surgery until end of Oct, it clearly flaunts the rules and is pretty shady but would have been huge for shaping the roster early, which is better than at the TDL.

Assuming they can't do nothing with LTIR, what players could you guys dump from the offense to clear cap if a deal for a dman comes up before enough cap is accrued?

I mean you would still score a ton without one of Skinner or Ardvidson, do you think if the defense is playing really bad that moving a guy you just signed to fill a need elsewhere would be considered?
You have so many bad takes that are just full of assumptions. Maybe you keep your opinions to your own board, Oiler hater.

LOL at "Vegas got lucky with Stone's timing". If you think that was luck I have some ocean front property in Vegas to sell you. "Luck", my ass.
 

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You have so many bad takes that are just full of assumptions. Maybe you keep your opinions to your own board, Oiler hater.

LOL at "Vegas got lucky with Stone's timing". If you think that was luck I have some ocean front property in Vegas to sell you. "Luck", my ass.
Watch the Oilers get similarily "lucky" this year.

Abdominal surgery alone can take up to 2 years to regain full strength in, lol, there's a lot of leeway they can use to say "player isn't 100% yet".
 

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