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I don't know the difference between RFA and UFA.
Darnell is also black. Meaning he gets less rope than others.
That is all.
I wonder with the Rogers buy out of Bell, if Bell is angling for an expansion team in the GTA, with Rogers blessing. Keith Pelley has his finger prints on this. Something is happening.I'm surprised it took this long for the NHL to finally head to Houston, but going back to Atlanta feels like a mistake.
Hopefully the new expansion format will pull it through this time, but if they're due for another franchise flop it'll probably be Atlanta(yet again). Hopefully they properly vet the owner this time at the very least.
Maple Leafs don't want competition in their market and would block any new teams in the greater Toronto areas to the best of their abilities, and Quebec city is a tiny market with all the problems of Montreal magnified(Taxes, location, currency, language etc) with few of the upsides. Ottawa/Winnipeg are already reportedly losing money, and both are bigger markets than what QC has to offer.
So no, hockey doesn't make more sense in those locations.
Isn't that the principal in the Archie comics?Jasper Weatherby, if the coolest guy at the old age home were made into a name.
Another sunbelt team for Gary to fawn over.I mean why not. Hockey has already failed there twice- what can go wrong?
If that was their fixed ceiling then even more reason to be active in exploring all contingencies including trade options with two players that don't appear to fit into the winning window deployment or budget. Pursue a McLeod model trade that shaves active roster salary for quality prospect return that guides flexibility in pursuit of winning a championship - either developed into future cheap salary (as Broberg and Holloway were expected to be) or quality trade assets to flip into roster upgrades.For a Stanley Cup contending team with cap constraints and other needs to address, no more than about $2.5M for the package of 2 would have been the budget, which was apparently untenable. Going over that amount, or keying in on them early in the process, would have limited our ability to make actual real, material upgrades to the roster. I'll make the bet on Skinner, Arvidsson and Henrique and their ability to positively impact a contending roster over Broberg and Holloway maybe, possibly 1) staying healthy and 2) actually performing at a level where they would be real championship level contributors. What's being missed here is that if these two get signed for anything above the rough $2.5M market value and then come in here and underperform that it would severely damage the Oiler's ability to win a Cup. I'm not making that bet on those two on the basis of 4/5 nice playoff games from Holloway and Broberg having a handful of good games against the Stars.
Could a moderate improvement in value been possible via trade? Possibly, maybe, but I don't think it's unreasonable to state that any trade return wouldn't have been of much higher value than we got anyways.
If that was a firm final offer then even more they should have at least explored the trade market. The working premise holds they were dealing with a player with an in-season trade request. They had what sounds like deep trade deadline discussions with St. Louis as one team, it would make sense to reach out and have dialogue to gage interest and actively pursue a fallback situation with your shallow prospect systems two NHL ready players.In retrospect though I think they pretty much did that. The initial offers were quite consistent with what their top offers were probably going to be and I think should have been. The inflation and movement of young players has not played out at all outside of a small number of top end kids. In fact, as I suspected others have been squeezed even tighter as every other team pretty much palyed it as in the past.
@ZJuice , Seider is the future for DRW. In what universe and why, would they consider this?Looking purely at cap hit, Nurse > Seider. Will they do a one for one trade?
My reasoning being bigger cap hit = bigger talent right??
Agree with your post. The big money is in National Revenue (broadcast, sponsorship) and this is the biggest difference in revenue generation between the NHL and three other major professional sports. It's why Bettman stuck to his guns (reputation and otherwise) to keep the NHL in the huge Phoenix market for so long.I'm surprised it took this long for the NHL to finally head to Houston, but going back to Atlanta feels like a mistake.
Hopefully the new expansion format will pull it through this time, but if they're due for another franchise flop it'll probably be Atlanta(yet again). Hopefully they properly vet the owner this time at the very least.
Maple Leafs don't want competition in their market and would block any new teams in the greater Toronto areas to the best of their abilities, and Quebec city is a tiny market with all the problems of Montreal magnified(Taxes, location, currency, language etc) with few of the upsides. Ottawa/Winnipeg are already reportedly losing money, and both are bigger markets than what QC has to offer.
So no, hockey doesn't make more sense in those locations.
They wouldn't.. I'm just lonely@ZJuice , Seider is the future for DRW. In what universe and why, would they consider this?
And how are you so sure they didn’t explore the trade market?If that was a firm final offer then even more they should have at least explored the trade market. The working premise holds they were dealing with a player with an in-season trade request. They had what sounds like deep trade deadline discussions with St. Louis as one team, it would make sense to reach out and have dialogue to gage interest and actively pursue a fallback situation with your shallow prospect systems two NHL ready players.
Give yourself flexibility to shop for viable, quality prospects to help replenish a threadbare pool while shaving cap on the current roster pushed to its threshold. All options and considerations on the table to actively manage your vulnerable position with two young players. The Oilers did that with McLeod and GM Trotz spoke opening about talking with his counterparts through the summer to touch base on players. He pivoted quickly when Askarov opted to go public with his own trade request. Manage all contingencies or risk the market imposing itself.
There's no indication they explored the trade market. Not uncommon that information often leaks out. Seems fairly clear process they followed 'the way things were done' and tried to smoke out their quality young RFA's. But as you write, I'd like to believe there was a pro-active approach to explore all contingencies with a known flight risk. Would love to see or hear evidence they did.And how are you so sure they didn’t explore the trade market?
Maybe they realized the risk vs reward and tried to keep them and squeeze them like every other team does.
You also think Dallas kept cap space for Harley, they kept enough for what he was worth, the oilers kept enough for what Holloway and broberg would be worth.
If a team gave Harley a contract for 2-3x his worth, Dallas would’ve either had to drop lots of salary or not match.
And then we’ve seen teams like Toronto squeeze a RFA that is better than Holloway for 900k.
Case rested..There isn’t enough laugh emojis in the world