Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread|Keith, No Keith, Hurry Up and Make Up Your Damn Minds Already!

[ManofSteel55]

Go look at the Oilers-Leafs record head to head the last 20 games and wake up.

Just because we don't like their annoying fan base and media doesn't magically mean our team is our par, its not. They would've smoked us in a playoff round, they basically did, you saw that 3 game mini-series we had against them, they embarrassed us and Matthews didn't even play in 2 of those games I believe.

We are a good tier below them easily and several tiers below a team like Colorado.

Accepting that is not pessimism, it's being realistic which is necessary, you cannot get better at anything if you're lying to yourself.

If we went by regular season head to head we would have skated by Winnipeg and Montreal. Toronto would have skated by Montreal too.

All I see from some posters is pessimism so forgive me if I get a little sick of it.

 

[Soundwave]

If we went by regular season head to head we would have skated by Winnipeg and Montreal. Toronto would have skated by Montreal too.

All I see from some posters is pessimism so forgive me if I get a little sick of it.

Conversely all Winnipeg did was just copy the defensive trap/slow/force Connor out of the middle of the ice gameplan that Toronto and Montreal showed would completely shut our team down.

And it worked for Winnipeg, at least worked well enough for a commanding 2-0 lead which realistically this team was never coming back from.

 

[Faelko]

It'll be a Turris buyout and Neal and Koskinen will be on opening night roster

I don’t see that as even plausible right now. I was thinking Kosk would probably be here still but after taking all the cap hit from Keith, it’s likely both

 

[CycloneSweep]

I don’t see that as even plausible right now. I was thinking Kosk would probably be here still but after taking all the cap hit from Keith, it’s likely both

I'd almost bet money that at least 1 of the 2 is still here to start the year.

 

[Faelko]

I'd almost bet money that at least 1 of the 2 is still here to start the year.

Maybe Koskinen but I don’t see how a guy that just went all in on an aging Keith to have the patience to wait out Neals contract.

 

[Soli]

 

[Chabot84]

I hope Turris is working out right now

 

[belair]

I hope Turris is working out right now

No joke. Unless that guy is cool with watching his professional career fade away in front of him.

 

[Paralyzer]

I can't wait to see everyone here eat crow when the Oilers actually make it further than they have before, and THEN some.

 

[Del Preston]

I posted earlier that buying out Koskinen and Neal gets the Oilers to $19.23 million in cap space. That'd be nice, except next year there would be $5,666,667 million in dead cap for 2022-23 from three buyouts (those two + Sekera) and Lucic's salary.

 

[Oilhawks]

I can't wait to see everyone here eat crow when the Oilers actually make it further than they have before, and THEN some.

They probably will (a big part due to other offseason additions), but let’s be real, no one will eat crow over it.

I love the player but I wouldn’t have been happy with this trade unless at least 25% retention happened. Now Holland has to buyout both Neal and Koskinen to maximize the cap and leave some room for Nurse’s next year

 

[CupofOil]

I can't wait to see everyone here eat crow when the Oilers actually make it further than they have before, and THEN some.

So are you willing to apologize to those who were upset at the thought of no retention when you kept telling everybody to calm down and that they should eat some crow when it turns out the trade isn't as bad as we thought it would be or does that only work one way?

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Keith, No Keith, Hurry Up and Make Up Your Damn Minds Already! -BBO


Well we hurried...

Kind of wish we didn't.

I don't believe Keith was legitimately willing to go to Seattle, just a smoke screen to not paint Chicago into a corner, if we push them till atleast the brink of the expansion draft where they have to use a protection slot on him, I think we get a better deal. I'd also rather not do the deal entirely rather than make the deal we inevitably did make.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

How was I changing my tune? I like Keith. But everyone here is jumping ship thinking some 3 time Stanley Cup Conn Smythe Winner is trash. WE NEED VETERAN MENTORS! Not young guys who COULD be something. There is another plan in place. I am sure of it.

I can't wait for people to see the Keith deal done...freak out before details pop in...then we get 50% retention on Keith or Neal the other way and me going "I told you so" for the 100th time.

This was you literally right before the deal went down. Went from can't wait to be right again and give everyone an I told you so to there is another plan in place I am sure of it guys. I'd love to see all these suppose things you got right, though.

 

[Deplorable Lenny]

I hope that Hall rumour we heard yesterday is f***ing true

What rumors is that?

 

[Soundwave]

I posted earlier that buying out Koskinen and Neal gets the Oilers to $19.23 million in cap space. That'd be nice, except next year there would be $5,666,667 million in dead cap for 2022-23 from three buyouts (those two + Sekera) and Lucic's salary.

It makes no sense to buy out Koskinen for this reason.

There's already a shit ton of dead cap for next year, why compound it.

Just send Koskinen to the AHL, save a million dollars that way and ride it out. That 1.5 million can pay for a chunk of Nurse's raise or Puljujarvi's raise next year.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Come on lets not hate the player, give him a chance, not his fault.

Yeah wow why are people hating on him? The GM made the damn trade not Duncan. Twitter is sickening right now. Please don't turn into those fools on here

 

[oobga]

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Trade Kassian for Jarry, sign Ullmark, dreiger or Mrazek, and see if you can get one of them to emerge as a #1.

Sign Jake McCabe, assuming health, to a 2 yr deal to help the LHD, and add some good forwards, there's still lots of room and ways to get better.

Despite how it feels, the season isn't over

 

[Paralyzer]

This was you literally right before the deal went down. Went from can't wait to be right again and give everyone an I told you so to there is another plan in place I am sure of it guys. I'd love to see all these suppose things you got right, though.

Go look at my post history. I don't need to find anything to prove to you. I have always stayed the same and played the course, and everytime I did, I was never disappointed or let down and I knew why they did things without knee-jerking reactions that everyone here does on a regular basis.

 

[McTonyBrar]

 

[Oilhawks]

The leadership part is there, for sure (unsurprisingly). Time will tell for the rest

 

[Paralyzer]

When I heard him say that, that basically tells me "talking is cheap. Let me show you what I can do". I love that. Let's see what he can do on the ice. I got faith in him.

 

[McTonyBrar]

When I heard him say that, that basically tells me "talking is cheap. Let me show you what I can do". I love that. Let's see what he can do on the ice. I got faith in him.

I do as well. He doesn't talk much about his game. He shows it

 

[McTonyBrar]

Ken Holland is next. Let's see what he says